Antifa leader/ Professor : It's a privilege to teach future dead cops

[SassyIrishLass]

Walk me though it.


Cause my complaints about Berkeley is that they tacitly work with violent street thugs to suppress Free Speech.


This professor is one of those street thugs, and supports the use of political violence.


Where is the irony?

The irony is in the fact that while you champion the "free speech" of Milo and friends on the Berkeley campus, you demand that others be fired for using their "free speech".

If Milo had a job that required him to be fair to liberals, and he was NOT, I would fully expect him to be held accountable.


I do not believe that an asshole who supports the use of political violence, would be able to be fair and professional in dealing with students.


THat you see a contradiction or irony here is you being confused about what conservatives are saying.

Your feelings are irrelevant. You know that, right?

Oh me achin ribs, a leftist from the safe space crowd, the statues must come down crowd, the whining fucks who bawl about everything, telling anyone their feelings are irrelevant?

You cant even begin to make this shit up.

Look around this thread, and tell me who's being PC.

Not me ya fucking loudmouth and you fool nobody with your feeble condescending BS.

 

[Correll]

Isn't that ironic from those bitching about Berkeley?........and let me share my opinion....the guy's an asshole.

The irony has not missed me, no.

Walk me though it.


Cause my complaints about Berkeley is that they tacitly work with violent street thugs to suppress Free Speech.


This professor is one of those street thugs, and supports the use of political violence.


Where is the irony?

The irony is in the fact that while you champion the "free speech" of Milo and friends on the Berkeley campus, you demand that others be fired for using their "free speech".

If Milo had a job that required him to be fair to liberals, and he was NOT, I would fully expect him to be held accountable.


I do not believe that an asshole who supports the use of political violence, would be able to be fair and professional in dealing with students.


THat you see a contradiction or irony here is you being confused about what conservatives are saying.

Your feelings are irrelevant. You know that, right?

You suggest punishing this man for using his freedom of speech. It's that simple.

I'm assuming that a man who is dishonest enough to justify support of political street violence will be just as quick to rationalize abuse of authority in the classroom.


I stand by that assumption, until someone can show me evidence to the contrary.

 

[Vastator]

Direct link to claimed:
Ivan Trumpovic on Twitter


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Wow... So I checked out the school and it's apparently a liberal arts place so they might not even fire him for that shit. Is it time for a PA to businesses and parents that degrees from this place are file 13 quality?

Random hypothetical aside for our "supposed" lawyers on here, so if someone already paid into this place and got a degree, and because the school didn't fire this cop killer twat their degree becomes worthless, would they have legal recourse to sue and get their money back?

First of all, John Jay is not a "liberal arts college". It's right there in its name - John Jay College for Criminal Justice.

Secondly, this guy's isn't going to be fired just because you're outraged at him - nor will your whining outrage magically make a degree from John Jay worthless.

hmmm did you happen to look up the school son? Mission Statement | John Jay College of Criminal Justice

Mission Statement

John Jay College of Criminal Justice is a community of motivated and intellectually committed individuals who explore justice in its many dimensions. The College’s liberal arts curriculum equips students to pursue advanced study and meaningful, rewarding careers in the public, private, and non-profit sectors. Our professional programs introduce students to foundational and newly emerging fields and prepare them for advancement within their chosen professions.

Our students are eager to engage in original research and experiential learning, excited to study in one of the world’s most dynamic cities, and passionate about shaping the future. Through their studies our students prepare for ethical leadership, global citizenship, and engaged service. Our faculty members are exceptional teachers who encourage students to join them in pursuing transformative scholarship and creative activities. Through their research our faculty advances knowledge and informs professional practices that build and sustain just societies.

We foster an inclusive and diverse community drawn from our city, our country, and the world. We are dedicated to educating traditionally underrepresented groups and committed to increasing diversity in the workforce. The breadth of our community motivates us to question our assumptions, to consider multiple perspectives, to think critically, and to develop the humility that comes with global understanding. We educate fierce advocates for justice."

We're all so impressed with your cut-and-paste skills.

But trust me, I know plenty about the school. I went there for 2 years.

If that were true, you wouldn't have protested the easily surmised statement about it being a Liberal Arts college...

 

[Bush92]

Walk me though it.


Cause my complaints about Berkeley is that they tacitly work with violent street thugs to suppress Free Speech.


This professor is one of those street thugs, and supports the use of political violence.


Where is the irony?

The irony is in the fact that while you champion the "free speech" of Milo and friends on the Berkeley campus, you demand that others be fired for using their "free speech".

They are using their "free speech" to voice their opinions on what they think should happen to the guy.....

Of course.

But when those opinions are obviously hypocritical, I will then use my freedom of speech to call them out on it.

sure... That so called war on conservatives is coming back at the liberal leftist just as hard and furious as it went out...that's life.

Could you translate this to English for me?

Liberal terrorist started this...conservatives will finish it.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The irony has not missed me, no.

Walk me though it.


Cause my complaints about Berkeley is that they tacitly work with violent street thugs to suppress Free Speech.


This professor is one of those street thugs, and supports the use of political violence.


Where is the irony?

The irony is in the fact that while you champion the "free speech" of Milo and friends on the Berkeley campus, you demand that others be fired for using their "free speech".

If Milo had a job that required him to be fair to liberals, and he was NOT, I would fully expect him to be held accountable.


I do not believe that an asshole who supports the use of political violence, would be able to be fair and professional in dealing with students.


THat you see a contradiction or irony here is you being confused about what conservatives are saying.

Your feelings are irrelevant. You know that, right?

You suggest punishing this man for using his freedom of speech. It's that simple.

I'm assuming that a man who is dishonest enough to justify support of political street violence will be just as quick to rationalize abuse of authority in the classroom.


I stand by that assumption, until someone can show me evidence to the contrary.

Let me help you out here.

No one cares what you "stand by". Your emotions don't dictate reality.

The facts are the same. You are in favor of punishing this man for his speech.

 

[bodecea]

The irony has not missed me, no.

Walk me though it.


Cause my complaints about Berkeley is that they tacitly work with violent street thugs to suppress Free Speech.


This professor is one of those street thugs, and supports the use of political violence.


Where is the irony?

The irony is in the fact that while you champion the "free speech" of Milo and friends on the Berkeley campus, you demand that others be fired for using their "free speech".

If Milo had a job that required him to be fair to liberals, and he was NOT, I would fully expect him to be held accountable.


I do not believe that an asshole who supports the use of political violence, would be able to be fair and professional in dealing with students.


THat you see a contradiction or irony here is you being confused about what conservatives are saying.

Your feelings are irrelevant. You know that, right?

Oh me achin ribs, a leftist from the safe space crowd, the statues must come down crowd, the whining fucks who bawl about everything, telling anyone their feelings are irrelevant?

You cant even begin to make this shit up.

Your whiney little feeling are totally relevant...and welcome to the right to free speech.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Direct link to claimed:
Ivan Trumpovic on Twitter


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Wow... So I checked out the school and it's apparently a liberal arts place so they might not even fire him for that shit. Is it time for a PA to businesses and parents that degrees from this place are file 13 quality?

Random hypothetical aside for our "supposed" lawyers on here, so if someone already paid into this place and got a degree, and because the school didn't fire this cop killer twat their degree becomes worthless, would they have legal recourse to sue and get their money back?

First of all, John Jay is not a "liberal arts college". It's right there in its name - John Jay College for Criminal Justice.

Secondly, this guy's isn't going to be fired just because you're outraged at him - nor will your whining outrage magically make a degree from John Jay worthless.

hmmm did you happen to look up the school son? Mission Statement | John Jay College of Criminal Justice

Mission Statement

John Jay College of Criminal Justice is a community of motivated and intellectually committed individuals who explore justice in its many dimensions. The College’s liberal arts curriculum equips students to pursue advanced study and meaningful, rewarding careers in the public, private, and non-profit sectors. Our professional programs introduce students to foundational and newly emerging fields and prepare them for advancement within their chosen professions.

Our students are eager to engage in original research and experiential learning, excited to study in one of the world’s most dynamic cities, and passionate about shaping the future. Through their studies our students prepare for ethical leadership, global citizenship, and engaged service. Our faculty members are exceptional teachers who encourage students to join them in pursuing transformative scholarship and creative activities. Through their research our faculty advances knowledge and informs professional practices that build and sustain just societies.

We foster an inclusive and diverse community drawn from our city, our country, and the world. We are dedicated to educating traditionally underrepresented groups and committed to increasing diversity in the workforce. The breadth of our community motivates us to question our assumptions, to consider multiple perspectives, to think critically, and to develop the humility that comes with global understanding. We educate fierce advocates for justice."

We're all so impressed with your cut-and-paste skills.

But trust me, I know plenty about the school. I went there for 2 years.

If that were true, you wouldn't have protested the easily surmised statement about it being a Liberal Arts college...

It's not a "liberal arts" school. It's a fucking criminal justice school. I studied forensic pathology there.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The irony is in the fact that while you champion the "free speech" of Milo and friends on the Berkeley campus, you demand that others be fired for using their "free speech".

They are using their "free speech" to voice their opinions on what they think should happen to the guy.....

Of course.

But when those opinions are obviously hypocritical, I will then use my freedom of speech to call them out on it.

sure... That so called war on conservatives is coming back at the liberal leftist just as hard and furious as it went out...that's life.

Could you translate this to English for me?

Liberal terrorist started this...conservatives will finish it.

I love internet tough guys.

 

[Correll]

Walk me though it.


Cause my complaints about Berkeley is that they tacitly work with violent street thugs to suppress Free Speech.


This professor is one of those street thugs, and supports the use of political violence.


Where is the irony?

The irony is in the fact that while you champion the "free speech" of Milo and friends on the Berkeley campus, you demand that others be fired for using their "free speech".

If Milo had a job that required him to be fair to liberals, and he was NOT, I would fully expect him to be held accountable.


I do not believe that an asshole who supports the use of political violence, would be able to be fair and professional in dealing with students.


THat you see a contradiction or irony here is you being confused about what conservatives are saying.

Your feelings are irrelevant. You know that, right?

You suggest punishing this man for using his freedom of speech. It's that simple.

I'm assuming that a man who is dishonest enough to justify support of political street violence will be just as quick to rationalize abuse of authority in the classroom.


I stand by that assumption, until someone can show me evidence to the contrary.

Let me help you out here.

No one cares what you "stand by". Your emotions don't dictate reality.

The facts are the same. You are in favor of punishing this man for his speech.

Nope. YOu can keep saying that all you want. It does not reflect my posts, never has.


THis irony you see is you not understanding what cons are saying.

 

[bodecea]

They are using their "free speech" to voice their opinions on what they think should happen to the guy.....

Of course.

But when those opinions are obviously hypocritical, I will then use my freedom of speech to call them out on it.

sure... That so called war on conservatives is coming back at the liberal leftist just as hard and furious as it went out...that's life.

Could you translate this to English for me?

Liberal terrorist started this...conservatives will finish it.

I love internet tough guys.

It's so easy to talk tough........

 

[Correll]

They are using their "free speech" to voice their opinions on what they think should happen to the guy.....

Of course.

But when those opinions are obviously hypocritical, I will then use my freedom of speech to call them out on it.

sure... That so called war on conservatives is coming back at the liberal leftist just as hard and furious as it went out...that's life.

Could you translate this to English for me?

Liberal terrorist started this...conservatives will finish it.

I love internet tough guys.

More and more you lefties aren't really discussing anything, but instead are just spouting what, in person, would be fighting words.


That you do it from the safety of a computer screen, is you being the cowards.


THat you then pretend that a normal and healthy response from the cons you are dicks to, is something wrong on THEIR end, is just you libs doubling down on your "tough" talk.

 

[Bush92]

Direct link to claimed:
Ivan Trumpovic on Twitter


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Wow... So I checked out the school and it's apparently a liberal arts place so they might not even fire him for that shit. Is it time for a PA to businesses and parents that degrees from this place are file 13 quality?

Random hypothetical aside for our "supposed" lawyers on here, so if someone already paid into this place and got a degree, and because the school didn't fire this cop killer twat their degree becomes worthless, would they have legal recourse to sue and get their money back?

First of all, John Jay is not a "liberal arts college". It's right there in its name - John Jay College for Criminal Justice.

Secondly, this guy's isn't going to be fired just because you're outraged at him - nor will your whining outrage magically make a degree from John Jay worthless.

All colleges and universities these days are Marxist indoctrination centers.

 

[Peach]

Direct link to claimed:
Ivan Trumpovic on Twitter


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Wow... So I checked out the school and it's apparently a liberal arts place so they might not even fire him for that shit. Is it time for a PA to businesses and parents that degrees from this place are file 13 quality?

Random hypothetical aside for our "supposed" lawyers on here, so if someone already paid into this place and got a degree, and because the school didn't fire this cop killer twat their degree becomes worthless, would they have legal recourse to sue and get their money back?

First of all, John Jay is not a "liberal arts college". It's right there in its name - John Jay College for Criminal Justice.

Secondly, this guy's isn't going to be fired just because you're outraged at him - nor will your whining outrage magically make a degree from John Jay worthless.

hmmm did you happen to look up the school son? Mission Statement | John Jay College of Criminal Justice

Mission Statement

John Jay College of Criminal Justice is a community of motivated and intellectually committed individuals who explore justice in its many dimensions. The College’s liberal arts curriculum equips students to pursue advanced study and meaningful, rewarding careers in the public, private, and non-profit sectors. Our professional programs introduce students to foundational and newly emerging fields and prepare them for advancement within their chosen professions.

Our students are eager to engage in original research and experiential learning, excited to study in one of the world’s most dynamic cities, and passionate about shaping the future. Through their studies our students prepare for ethical leadership, global citizenship, and engaged service. Our faculty members are exceptional teachers who encourage students to join them in pursuing transformative scholarship and creative activities. Through their research our faculty advances knowledge and informs professional practices that build and sustain just societies.

We foster an inclusive and diverse community drawn from our city, our country, and the world. We are dedicated to educating traditionally underrepresented groups and committed to increasing diversity in the workforce. The breadth of our community motivates us to question our assumptions, to consider multiple perspectives, to think critically, and to develop the humility that comes with global understanding. We educate fierce advocates for justice."

[...] Fast Facts page:

"Founded in 1964, John Jay College of Criminal Justice is one of the nation’s most prestigious liberal arts institutions. The theme of justice is at the heart of each program, ranging across the arts, sciences and humanities. The breadth and diversity of scholarship at John Jay promises a rich learning experience to our students. "

The use of the very old term 'Liberal arts' does not have political implications.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Of course.

But when those opinions are obviously hypocritical, I will then use my freedom of speech to call them out on it.

sure... That so called war on conservatives is coming back at the liberal leftist just as hard and furious as it went out...that's life.

Could you translate this to English for me?

Liberal terrorist started this...conservatives will finish it.

I love internet tough guys.

More and more you lefties aren't really discussing anything, but instead are just spouting what, in person, would be fighting words.


That you do it from the safety of a computer screen, is you being the cowards.


THat you then pretend that a normal and healthy response from the cons you are dicks to, is something wrong on THEIR end, is just you libs doubling down on your "tough" talk.

If posts on a message board make you so emotional that you want to lash out in physical violence, that is your fucking problem, not mine.

If you can't take the heat, I'm going to laugh as you melt down.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Direct link to claimed:
Ivan Trumpovic on Twitter


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Wow... So I checked out the school and it's apparently a liberal arts place so they might not even fire him for that shit. Is it time for a PA to businesses and parents that degrees from this place are file 13 quality?

Random hypothetical aside for our "supposed" lawyers on here, so if someone already paid into this place and got a degree, and because the school didn't fire this cop killer twat their degree becomes worthless, would they have legal recourse to sue and get their money back?

First of all, John Jay is not a "liberal arts college". It's right there in its name - John Jay College for Criminal Justice.

Secondly, this guy's isn't going to be fired just because you're outraged at him - nor will your whining outrage magically make a degree from John Jay worthless.

All colleges and universities these days are Marxist indoctrination centers.

Did you go to college? If so, when?

 

[Correll]

sure... That so called war on conservatives is coming back at the liberal leftist just as hard and furious as it went out...that's life.

Could you translate this to English for me?

Liberal terrorist started this...conservatives will finish it.

I love internet tough guys.

More and more you lefties aren't really discussing anything, but instead are just spouting what, in person, would be fighting words.


That you do it from the safety of a computer screen, is you being the cowards.


THat you then pretend that a normal and healthy response from the cons you are dicks to, is something wrong on THEIR end, is just you libs doubling down on your "tough" talk.

If posts on a message board make you so emotional that you want to lash out in physical violence, that is your fucking problem, not mine.

If you can't take the heat, I'm going to laugh as you melt down.

I like that you did not deny that you lefties are not debating and more just provoking people with fighting words.



Good for you.


That your response was to do EXACTLY WHAT I DESCRIBED, in my post, as doubling down on your "tough talk" is hilarious.

 

[koshergrl]

Direct link to claimed:
Ivan Trumpovic on Twitter


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Wow... So I checked out the school and it's apparently a liberal arts place so they might not even fire him for that shit. Is it time for a PA to businesses and parents that degrees from this place are file 13 quality?

Random hypothetical aside for our "supposed" lawyers on here, so if someone already paid into this place and got a degree, and because the school didn't fire this cop killer twat their degree becomes worthless, would they have legal recourse to sue and get their money back?

First of all, John Jay is not a "liberal arts college". It's right there in its name - John Jay College for Criminal Justice.

Secondly, this guy's isn't going to be fired just because you're outraged at him - nor will your whining outrage magically make a degree from John Jay worthless.

"Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association boss Pat Lynch wrote a letter saying Isaacson “harbors total disdain for the active and future police officers that he teaches at John Jay College.”

"In a Friday letter to Karol Mason, president of John Jay College of Criminal Justice, Lynch demanded the “immediate dismissal” of Isaacson “on behalf of nearly 50,000 active and retired New York City police officers who are members of the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association of the City of New York.”

“Recent media reports have revealed Mr. Isaacson’s disgusting anti-police attitudes and his gleeful embrace of political violence, including violence against police officers, as expressed in his own social media postings,” Lynch wrote.

"Lynch continued: “It is absolutely outrageous that an individual who holds and expresses these views could be employed by any academic institution, much less one that counts an overwhelming number of New York City police officers as among its students, alumni and faculty members.”

"He wrote that Isaacson’s “continued presence will make it next to impossible for John Jay College to maintain any respect or credibility among the women and men who have dedicated their lives protecting this city, or among prospective students considering a law enforcement career.”

http://nypost.com/2017/09/15/police-union-wants-professor-fired-over-anti-cop-tweets/

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Could you translate this to English for me?

Liberal terrorist started this...conservatives will finish it.

I love internet tough guys.

More and more you lefties aren't really discussing anything, but instead are just spouting what, in person, would be fighting words.


That you do it from the safety of a computer screen, is you being the cowards.


THat you then pretend that a normal and healthy response from the cons you are dicks to, is something wrong on THEIR end, is just you libs doubling down on your "tough" talk.

If posts on a message board make you so emotional that you want to lash out in physical violence, that is your fucking problem, not mine.

If you can't take the heat, I'm going to laugh as you melt down.

I like that you did not deny that you lefties are not debating and more just provoking people with fighting words.



Good for you.


That your response was to do EXACTLY WHAT I DESCRIBED, in my post, as doubling down on your "tough talk" is hilarious.

It's not "tough talk", clownshoes. It's reality. This is the fucking internet.

It's not the Harvard debate club. If you want to talk issues, that's fine - let's do it. If you want to whine and moan about how people are being mean to you, then do it somewhere else.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Direct link to claimed:
Ivan Trumpovic on Twitter


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Wow... So I checked out the school and it's apparently a liberal arts place so they might not even fire him for that shit. Is it time for a PA to businesses and parents that degrees from this place are file 13 quality?

Random hypothetical aside for our "supposed" lawyers on here, so if someone already paid into this place and got a degree, and because the school didn't fire this cop killer twat their degree becomes worthless, would they have legal recourse to sue and get their money back?

First of all, John Jay is not a "liberal arts college". It's right there in its name - John Jay College for Criminal Justice.

Secondly, this guy's isn't going to be fired just because you're outraged at him - nor will your whining outrage magically make a degree from John Jay worthless.

"Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association boss Pat Lynch wrote a letter saying Isaacson “harbors total disdain for the active and future police officers that he teaches at John Jay College.”

"In a Friday letter to Karol Mason, president of John Jay College of Criminal Justice, Lynch demanded the “immediate dismissal” of Isaacson “on behalf of nearly 50,000 active and retired New York City police officers who are members of the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association of the City of New York.”

“Recent media reports have revealed Mr. Isaacson’s disgusting anti-police attitudes and his gleeful embrace of political violence, including violence against police officers, as expressed in his own social media postings,” Lynch wrote.

"Lynch continued: “It is absolutely outrageous that an individual who holds and expresses these views could be employed by any academic institution, much less one that counts an overwhelming number of New York City police officers as among its students, alumni and faculty members.”

"He wrote that Isaacson’s “continued presence will make it next to impossible for John Jay College to maintain any respect or credibility among the women and men who have dedicated their lives protecting this city, or among prospective students considering a law enforcement career.”

http://nypost.com/2017/09/15/police-union-wants-professor-fired-over-anti-cop-tweets/

What a surprise. The New York Police Union wants him fired.

He's an adjunct, so they probably will fire him. But because the police union said so isn't going to be the reason.

 

[Peach]

He should be disciplined at the least then.

Why?

For sharing his opinion?

His opinion involves inciting murder.

No, it doesn't.

Incitement has a legal definition. This doesn't come close to it.

I was not addressing criminal penalties, rather the college's liberty to object to encouraging murder.

He was neither "inciting", nor "encouraging" murder.

Words have meanings, you don't get to redefine them, no matter how outraged you are about it.

I am not outraged, but as you write, words have meanings. Sometimes they can invite, encourage, or discourage other forms of expression. The intention of the speaker is not controlling.