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Better still .. not one penny of US taxpayer dollars should be wasted on the welfare.
There. I fixed that for you. If we're going to hand out money, Israel is as deserving as any, and more deserving than any non-democracies we hand out money to.
How much is it again we give that terrorist organization the people of Palestine elected as their government?
funny, the only person I recall every using the term "new world order" was Bush the senior. Hey, maybe if we pretend that ethnic standards for israel is different than every other nation that put a premium on a particular beloved group...
Globalists abound in BOTH parties. They're sellouts. I don't care who they are, nor what party they belong to and that's one thing that first started me re-examining supporting the GOP. And you are correct. Bush the I was the first I recall coining the term "New World Order."
It's a completely biased map and it uses completely ridiculous accusations. It's about as credible as the Weekly World News.
[/B]Ridiculous maps? What's ridiculous about the maps? They're historical maps. They're factual, not biased using conspiracy theories like your "maps" do.
What is it with you? Do you not like history? Do you know why they British had a mandate there? Because from the 1500s on, the OTTOMANS occupied the land. Do you see that piece of land to the West of Jordan? It's called Arabia.. THAT's where Arabs belong - that's where they come from - ARABIA. Any outward expansion beyond Arabia was done through wars.
FACT: From 1516 - 1917, roughly 300 years, the Ottomans (Turks) occupied the land.
FACT: From 1270 - 1516, the Mamluk of Egypt occupied the land. Egyptians are NOT Arabs.
FACT: From 1099 - 1269, the Crusaders occupied the land. The Crusaders were Christian and created the Jewish Kingdom of Jerusalem for the Jews.
FACT: From 638 - 1099, the Arabs occupied the land in the form of the Caliphate Empire. It was during that time that the Arabs welcomed to the Jews back into Israel and under Arab occupation, the Jews went through what we regard to this day as the Golden Age, where Jews and Arabs lived peacefully together for hundreds of years.
FACT: The CaliphateEmpire sacked the Eastern Roman Empire which had occupied Israel from the time of Jesus onward until the 600s. It was originally the Roman Empire, but when the Roman Empire split in two, Israel was occupied by the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman, which eventually shrunk into the Holy Roman Empire, which is why many Italians are Catholic).
FACT: Before the Roman Empire conquered Israel, Israel was ruled for thousands of years by the Jews the Kingdom of Eretz Yisrael and for some time to the south the Kingdom of Judea.
FACT: The Roman Empire re-named Israel to Philistia in the 300s to punish the Jews for their multiple uprisings. Philistia evolved into Palestinia. Philistines were never Arabs, they were Mediterranean.
FACT: In the late 1800s, inspired by the disgusting treatment the Ottomans were giving the Jews living in the occupied land, Jews formed the zionist movement and began to immigrate back to Israel to re-form Israel.
During World War 1 - Britain had promised, through British intelligence officer T. E. Lawrence (aka: Lawrence of Arabia), independence for a united Arab state covering most of the Arab Middle East in exchange for Arab support of the British during the war. They also promised Palestine for the Jews. The Arabs wanted Palestine for themselves and thus the conflict began.
From 1948 - 1967 - the term Palestinian was referred to Jews who lived in the British Mandate of Jewish Palestine after World War 1. It wasn't untl 40 years ago, the term, through billions of dollars from the Arab countries using oil money supporting the PLO, was equated with Arabs.
Palestinains are NOT Arabs. They are Jews.
You aren't detecting a double standard, now are you? He tells you that were it not for the US and UK, Israel would have destroyed Hamas by now. That may be true, but what he forgot to tell you is that Israel would be doing so with American weapons.
That's so absurd!!!
Israel is the main cause of all of the Middle East problems and terrorists.
Because no one was kicked out of the country or had their lands stolen!!
Iran is well known for protecting both it's Jewish and Christain citizens.
In fact there are Jews who are elected members of the Iranian Parliment.
Actually, it was the UN who gave it to the Jews in 1948.
Rather than supply both sides with money and weapons, we should supply both sides with nothing.
I disagree. We are supposedly the leader of the free world. With that title come responsibility. We should not be supplying a country whose government is an international terrorist organization nor the people that democratically elected an international terrorist organization to represent them to the world.
Since I agreed that we should send nothing to the Palestinians, I'm assuming when you say you disagree you're referring to my stance on Israel? I'm not saying we should cut all ties with Israel, I'm saying that we need to end the economic and military aid. Why should American taxpayers pay to prop up a government that is unwilling to make the necessary economic and military reforms it needs to stand on it's own? If we cut the $2 billion Israel relies on every year they would be forced to have a freer economy and cut their inefficient, top-heavy military. But where's the incentive for them to do that if we're just going to continue to fund them regardless?
My stance is if we cut aid to Israel, we need to cut aid to any-and-everyone outside out borders.
Once again - a palestinian was a Jew up until 1967. I don't tend to buy into the terrorist Arafat's words and definitions when I look at the world. So a Palestinian is a Jew according to the 1920 Mandate for Jewish Palestine. That the only time in the entire history of Palestine since the 300s when Palestine was created that the area had official borders, had an official people, an official religion and an official language. The people were Jewish, the religion was Jewish and the language was Hebrew. To say Israel was "carved" out of Palestine is completely infactual. It was Arab-Palestine that existed for a very short while that was carved out of Jewish Palestine. It was Arab Trans-Jordan that was carved out of Jewish Palestine.
Arabs didn't live in the territorial area known as Palestine under the Ottoman Empire. In fact, only a very sparse Jewish population lived around Jersualem and Tel Aviv during Ottoman rule. Jews were either exiled or tortured and beaten by the Ottomans. If you'll remember, Ottomans and Arabs hated each other for centuries.
Methinks you should read your current world history. America is, I think, the only country, with maybe a few exceptions, that does not have an official religion. There are 23-24 countries in which Islam is the official religion, probably over 100 countries in which Christianity or an off-shoot of Christianity is the official religion, several countries where Buddhism is the official religion... there is only ONE country, ONE tiny little country the size of New Jersey that has an official religion of Judaism and that's Israel. Is one tiny country, that has belonged to the Jews since Abraham's immigration into Canaan nearly 5000 years ago so much to ask for?
I might be naive about things here but I have a feeling that with the crashing of our economy we are going to HAVE to change our ways. As citizens and as a government.
I disagree. We are supposedly the leader of the free world. With that title come responsibility. We should not be supplying a country whose government is an international terrorist organization nor the people that democratically elected an international terrorist organization to represent them to the world.
Oh? Which weapons would those be?
