Another small but important victory

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    Minnesota School Agrees to Allow Students' Christian Song at Graduation

    By Allie Martin
    June 8, 2006



    http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/6/82006d.asp
     
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    Would this school allow a Muslim student to sing a traditional Muslim call to prayer song? Perhaps a Jewish cantor could perform as well. Maybe some Rastafarian Reggae could be added, too.

    Why do Christians constantly feel the need to jam their religion down everyone's throat? I am a religious person, but I don't constantly badger everyone else about my religion. By all means, practice your faith, but keep it to yourself.

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    Why not have all religions represented???


    They don't, Christians just want the freedom to practice their faith in public which is supposed to be a perk for a free society. Im curious as to how exactly one practices their faith and keeps it to themselves?? How does that work? Basements and churches only, are church bakes sales allowed on lawns, are crosses allowed on property, do I have the right to hang my rosary beads in my car, or wear a religious symbol around my neck???? Who decides this??
    What criteria is used??
     
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    The difference is Christians constantly want to use public forums, like a graduation, that are not religious in nature and inject their religion into them.

    Do whatever you want in your car, at the park, whatever, but why do you constantly seek to use public events that have no religious significance for the purpose of promoting religion?

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    Whose doing that? I just posted the article I wasn't actually there. Anyway whose to say Christians just want the right to celebrate their faith at a graduation or other meaningful event? You make a lot of assumptions that it's all about converting the world, yes those devious Christians are all out to kill everyone's fun. Get real here. Like or not Chrtistians make up the majority in this country and don't like to be told they can't celebrate their faith in public. Courthouses and government buildings etc I can see an argument to be made that churches have no real place there, but school recitals, parks (which Im glad you mentioned btw, since you will be supporting the Boy Scouts then as well?), graduations et al are not crossing the line of seperation.

    Ill remind you that it was the ACLU that took this fight to Christians, did they seriously expect Christians to just role over and not fight back? If you want to be frustrated make sure you know who and why, even nice dogs will eventually fight back if picked on enough.
     
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    Tyranny of the minority.

    When the rights of the majority to freely exercise their religious beliefs because a minority doesn't know how to look aside and "turn the channel" as it were, you find the minority running roughshod over the majority as the athiests have done to Judeo-christianity here in the USA.

    I like your question Bonnie - what would these same indignant athiests do if stateside muslims decided to speak openly about their faith, or practice their religious beliefs in public? Personally, I think the athiests would continue to harangue the Christian faiths and leave the muslims alone, after all, when was the last time anyone saw Christians riot in the streets and cut the heads off of infidels?

    Frankly the athiests should thank whatever god they DON'T believe in that they don't live under sharia where they would REALLY be able to appreciate their rights in the USA to ignore the religious and to even openly criticize the religious bodies.

    BTW acludem, it's not about forcing others to practice a majority religion. It's about allowing the majority to practice their Constitutionally protected right to freedom of religion and allowing the minority to NOT practice any religion if they choose not to.
     
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    I would have the same problem if any religion was allowed to use a public forum, like a graduation, to ram their faith down everyone's throat especially where other religions are denied the same opportunity. In this case, these students who are performing at a graduation ceremony at a public school, with a diverse student body, chose a specifically Christian song that has absolutely nothing to do with graduation, to promote their religion. Why is this necessary?

    Also, FYI, I'm a very religious person, but I'm not a Christian.

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    It appeared the school would according to the final rule. If the students chose him and he then chose to sing that....

    Some guy singing a song at the request of the student body is badgering? You have an entirely different idea of badgering than I. I am not a christian, but I certainly can spend two minutes listening to a song without feeling "badgered"...
     
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    Personally I have much more of a problem with teachers devoting more than a month to teaching Islam in classes, under the guise of cultural diversity.
     
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    Of course, you'd be fine if teachers spent a month teaching Christianity in schools. I took a humanities class in high school (many high schools offer this) that had a religion component that covered Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Islam for an academic, rather than promotional, perspective.

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