Another Liberal Myth Exploded

Didn't need a factory or machinery but what I didn't build myself I used my treasure to pay others - you know ... creating JOBS - or rented, essentially exchanging my treasure for the use of others capital assets. They, in turn used their treasure - some of which came from me - to purchase my services. See how efficiently capitalism maximizes the value of ones work?

Fantasy Island I think. C'mon, you a fork lift operator or do you run a punch press?

I didn't need fork lifts or presses (I've operated heavy equip) but if I did I would have contracted (employed) someone who would. My treasure for his labor. It's called a job and some people are smart enough to understand the value of one who creates them. Then, of course, there are whiny loony leftists.
The whole concept is that they don't really own the factory, it'd be a great justice to workers if they got the means of production back from the exploiting capitalist

You have two basic choices in America. You can work a job and consume your pay or make sacrifices and hard choices and use your pay to build something of your own. According to your socialist dogma, the third choice should be to consume your pay, build nothing, and own it anyway. Child-like.
 
Socialism is simply collective ownership of production, really, your property? Did you build the factory by yourself, assemble the machines?

Yes... I did. Because it was my money that built the factory, and it was my contracts which got the money... and my initiative that got the contracts... without which there would be no contracts, thus no money, thus no incentive for Labor to do anything, thus no labor being pulled together by me, to build machines being built in my factories.

But in fairness to you Karl... if you were bright enough to understand that, LOL! you wouldn't be spouting that Relativist drivel.

See how that works?
So, you did nothing but sick back exploiting actual workers?

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted Karl.

LOL! You're even less effective in this sock... which is hard to believe, but hey... the record is right there and is irrefutable.
Which record? Are you referring to Marx's personal life?
 
I get the impression that you don't understand masochism

While I get the impression that you do ... intimately.
Perhaps I don't get the attraction because I don't have a drop of it in me but I will defend your right to take abuse and enjoy it. At some point, however, you are gonna hafta start paying me to kick you ... I don't work for the collective.
 
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Didn't need a factory or machinery but what I didn't build myself I used my treasure to pay others - you know ... creating JOBS - or rented, essentially exchanging my treasure for the use of others capital assets. They, in turn used their treasure - some of which came from me - to purchase my services. See how efficiently capitalism maximizes the value of ones work?

Fantasy Island I think. C'mon, you a fork lift operator or do you run a punch press?

I didn't need fork lifts or presses (I've operated heavy equip) but if I did I would have contracted (employed) someone who would. My treasure for his labor. It's called a job and some people are smart enough to understand the value of one who creates them. Then, of course, there are whiny loony leftists.
The whole concept is that they don't really own the factory, it'd be a great justice to workers if they got the means of production back from the exploiting capitalist

You have two basic choices in America. You can work a job and consume your pay or make sacrifices and hard choices and use your pay to build something of your own. According to your socialist dogma, the third choice should be to consume your pay, build nothing, and own it anyway. Child-like.
Work for capitalists who exploit your labor to acquire money which is used to purchase food that is turned into a profit item by capitalists. Yeah, and what's the success rate of that? It's literally Impossible for a majority of the population to be business owners.
 
Work for capitalists who exploit your labor...

You have now consistently demonstrated the insufficient intellectual means required for consideration by reasonable people.

As a result you are hereby sentenced to

LIFE IN:
IGNORE!
 
You have two basic choices in America. You can work a job and consume your pay or make sacrifices and hard choices and use your pay to build something of your own. According to your socialist dogma, the third choice should be to consume your pay, build nothing, and own it anyway. Child-like.

Work for capitalists who exploit your labor to acquire money which is used to purchase food that is turned into a profit item by capitalists...

You seem to have glossed over the part where you exploit the capitalist's labor and assets to acquire money which is used to purchase food and beer and video games and big screen TVs and concert tickets and...
 
You have two basic choices in America. You can work a job and consume your pay or make sacrifices and hard choices and use your pay to build something of your own. According to your socialist dogma, the third choice should be to consume your pay, build nothing, and own it anyway. Child-like.

Work for capitalists who exploit your labor to acquire money which is used to purchase food that is turned into a profit item by capitalists...

You seem to have glossed over the part where you exploit the capitalist's labor and assets to acquire money which is used to purchase food and beer and video games and big screen TVs and concert tickets and...
Are you kidding me? Capitalism, by nature, relies on exploitation. We live in a world where it's basically essential to work for the capitalist to get neccessities, which are sold by capitalists. Then again, I'm against the concept of money.
 
If a greedy and envious Liberal doesn't like the salary a CEO is making then all they have to do is not do business with the company that sets the CEO's salary and incentive package.

Problem solved.

I don't like Union bosses and their fat cat salaries so whenever I have a choice I don't buy anything made by a greedy union, so I put my money where my mouth is.
 
You seem to have glossed over the part where you exploit the capitalist's labor and assets to acquire money which is used to purchase food and beer and video games and big screen TVs and concert tickets and...
Are you kidding me? Capitalism, by nature, relies on exploitation. We live in a world where it's basically essential to work for the capitalist to get neccessities, which are sold by capitalists...

Not so comrade. As an American you have the freedom to pursue your "worker's paradise" anywhere you find it. Try N. Korea.
 
If a greedy and envious Liberal doesn't like the salary a CEO is making then all they have to do is not do business with the company that sets the CEO's salary and incentive package.

Problem solved.

I don't like Union bosses and their fat cat salaries so whenever I have a choice I don't buy anything made by a greedy union, so I put my money where my mouth is.

Isn't American style freedom of choice grand?
 
You seem to have glossed over the part where you exploit the capitalist's labor and assets to acquire money which is used to purchase food and beer and video games and big screen TVs and concert tickets and...
Are you kidding me? Capitalism, by nature, relies on exploitation. We live in a world where it's basically essential to work for the capitalist to get neccessities, which are sold by capitalists...

Not so comrade. As an American you have the freedom to pursue your "worker's paradise" anywhere you find it. Try N. Korea.
Really now? Capitalists don't control who gets hired?
 
If a greedy and envious Liberal doesn't like the salary a CEO is making then all they have to do is not do business with the company that sets the CEO's salary and incentive package.

Problem solved.

I don't like Union bosses and their fat cat salaries so whenever I have a choice I don't buy anything made by a greedy union, so I put my money where my mouth is.
The problem is, the majority of items produced and essential to us are under the control of hundreds of capitalists.
 

that's funny.

why aren't you posting what carly Fiorina's golden parachute was when she left HP.

she got a $45 million when she was fired for screwing up the company and 20,000 of her employees were laid off.

A. Carly Fiorina has zero shot of becoming president.

B. What makes you think I give a shit about Carly Fiorina?
 

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