CDZ Another "Evolution" Question

[Syriusly]

Statistical probability is, one would think, "normal", part of the universe. It is no defense of "fetishes" or any practice to point out that they are part of humanity and need to be dealt with accordingly, not as theological issues. "Good" and "evil" have no constructive place in such a debate. What is harmful, what the majority will put up with, what the prevailing power will allow is the issue. We repress certain religious practices despite the First Amendment, and rightly so. It is up to thinking people to decide rationally what their society will look like. Doing so based on simple emotion just continues the problems that have plagued us since organized society began.

. I never cit'e religous' reasons for pointing out they're sickos and public health menaces, as well as being a demographic that rapes children in massive numbers relative to their being 1%-2% of the population.

No- you just cite the usual litany of homophobic lies.

Let us first talk about the 1% to 2% of the population. Where does that number come from? From surveys- from Kinsey on- where people are asked about whether they are homosexuals or not. The range of course is huge- and varied- but typically have produced a statistical range of 1.2[4] to 6.8[6] percent of the adult population identifying as LGBT- and remember- this is self identifying- this is people saying- yes- I am a homosexual. Presuming that half of those are men- lets round that to .6% to 3.4% of the population of men self identify as gay.

Now lets look at the tragic numbers of child molestations. Girls are by a large majority more likely to be molested/raped as children than boys-possibly between 69%-91% of all molestations are of girls
https://www.abusewatch.net/pedophiles.pdf

So reversing the numbers- boys are the molestation victims between 31% to 9% of the time.

Men are are by a huge majority the molesters. So are all the boys molested by 'homosexuals'? Here is where you bigots go with the big lie. You will claim that the number of gay men is low- using numbers where men identify themselves as 'gay'- but then label any man who molests a boy as 'gay'.

The fact is that men who molest kids- can be straight or gay in orientation to adults. Most of the men who molest boys self identify as straight.
Why is this important? Because those men would not be in that 1-2% you claim.
What kind of men?
Jerry Sandusky- married and a father- no record of any same gender sex with adults- only with raping boys.
Dennis Hastert- again- married and a father- no record of any same gender sex with men- but molested boys.
Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation
As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).

So there is no actual quantifiable evidence that 'gay men' molest children more than the population.

BUT- and here is the important But- men do.

Bigots like yourself often like to attack gays as being molesters- but the fact is that men- as a whole- are vastly more likely to sexually abuse a child- any child- than women.

Where are your attacks against men- against all of us men- for sexual attacks on children?

It will never happen. Factually lesbians are less likely to sexually abuse any child- than any group of men- straight or gay.

Somehow I don't think that will lead you to commending lesbians and condemning all men.

Of course, anybody still citing the proven faked data from the ancient Kinsey reports is just regurgitating rubbish, not science, no need to read further.

Of course, all of you homophobic bigots are still citing proven faked data is not science- just the usual bigotry.

I was providing the facts for rational adults- not you.

 

[Picaro]

Statistical probability is, one would think, "normal", part of the universe. It is no defense of "fetishes" or any practice to point out that they are part of humanity and need to be dealt with accordingly, not as theological issues. "Good" and "evil" have no constructive place in such a debate. What is harmful, what the majority will put up with, what the prevailing power will allow is the issue. We repress certain religious practices despite the First Amendment, and rightly so. It is up to thinking people to decide rationally what their society will look like. Doing so based on simple emotion just continues the problems that have plagued us since organized society began.

. I never cit'e religous' reasons for pointing out they're sickos and public health menaces, as well as being a demographic that rapes children in massive numbers relative to their being 1%-2% of the population.

No- you just cite the usual litany of homophobic lies.

Let us first talk about the 1% to 2% of the population. Where does that number come from? From surveys- from Kinsey on- where people are asked about whether they are homosexuals or not. The range of course is huge- and varied- but typically have produced a statistical range of 1.2[4] to 6.8[6] percent of the adult population identifying as LGBT- and remember- this is self identifying- this is people saying- yes- I am a homosexual. Presuming that half of those are men- lets round that to .6% to 3.4% of the population of men self identify as gay.

Now lets look at the tragic numbers of child molestations. Girls are by a large majority more likely to be molested/raped as children than boys-possibly between 69%-91% of all molestations are of girls
https://www.abusewatch.net/pedophiles.pdf

So reversing the numbers- boys are the molestation victims between 31% to 9% of the time.

Men are are by a huge majority the molesters. So are all the boys molested by 'homosexuals'? Here is where you bigots go with the big lie. You will claim that the number of gay men is low- using numbers where men identify themselves as 'gay'- but then label any man who molests a boy as 'gay'.

The fact is that men who molest kids- can be straight or gay in orientation to adults. Most of the men who molest boys self identify as straight.
Why is this important? Because those men would not be in that 1-2% you claim.
What kind of men?
Jerry Sandusky- married and a father- no record of any same gender sex with adults- only with raping boys.
Dennis Hastert- again- married and a father- no record of any same gender sex with men- but molested boys.
Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation
As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).

So there is no actual quantifiable evidence that 'gay men' molest children more than the population.

BUT- and here is the important But- men do.

Bigots like yourself often like to attack gays as being molesters- but the fact is that men- as a whole- are vastly more likely to sexually abuse a child- any child- than women.

Where are your attacks against men- against all of us men- for sexual attacks on children?

It will never happen. Factually lesbians are less likely to sexually abuse any child- than any group of men- straight or gay.

Somehow I don't think that will lead you to commending lesbians and condemning all men.

Of course, anybody still citing the proven faked data from the ancient Kinsey reports is just regurgitating rubbish, not science, no need to read further.

Of course, all of you homophobic bigots are still citing proven faked data is not science- just the usual bigotry.

I was providing the facts for rational adults- not you.

The 'Fact Finder' here is completely oblivious to the fact Kinsey and his crew admitted to faking data many years ago, and thinks it has posted real 'studies' or something. The rest of its posts aren't worth reading, since it only posts links to abstracts, not actual 'studies', and has never personally read even one 'study', as witnessed by repeated request for it to post a link to even one, so we can all enjoy a good laugh at the methodologies used in them. It also apparently thinks 'homophobia' is a real word, and thinks it sounds 'all sciencey n stuff', too. lol

 

[Syriusly]

Statistical probability is, one would think, "normal", part of the universe. It is no defense of "fetishes" or any practice to point out that they are part of humanity and need to be dealt with accordingly, not as theological issues. "Good" and "evil" have no constructive place in such a debate. What is harmful, what the majority will put up with, what the prevailing power will allow is the issue. We repress certain religious practices despite the First Amendment, and rightly so. It is up to thinking people to decide rationally what their society will look like. Doing so based on simple emotion just continues the problems that have plagued us since organized society began.

. I never cit'e religous' reasons for pointing out they're sickos and public health menaces, as well as being a demographic that rapes children in massive numbers relative to their being 1%-2% of the population.

No- you just cite the usual litany of homophobic lies.

Let us first talk about the 1% to 2% of the population. Where does that number come from? From surveys- from Kinsey on- where people are asked about whether they are homosexuals or not. The range of course is huge- and varied- but typically have produced a statistical range of 1.2[4] to 6.8[6] percent of the adult population identifying as LGBT- and remember- this is self identifying- this is people saying- yes- I am a homosexual. Presuming that half of those are men- lets round that to .6% to 3.4% of the population of men self identify as gay.

Now lets look at the tragic numbers of child molestations. Girls are by a large majority more likely to be molested/raped as children than boys-possibly between 69%-91% of all molestations are of girls
https://www.abusewatch.net/pedophiles.pdf

So reversing the numbers- boys are the molestation victims between 31% to 9% of the time.

Men are are by a huge majority the molesters. So are all the boys molested by 'homosexuals'? Here is where you bigots go with the big lie. You will claim that the number of gay men is low- using numbers where men identify themselves as 'gay'- but then label any man who molests a boy as 'gay'.

The fact is that men who molest kids- can be straight or gay in orientation to adults. Most of the men who molest boys self identify as straight.
Why is this important? Because those men would not be in that 1-2% you claim.
What kind of men?
Jerry Sandusky- married and a father- no record of any same gender sex with adults- only with raping boys.
Dennis Hastert- again- married and a father- no record of any same gender sex with men- but molested boys.
Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation
As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).

So there is no actual quantifiable evidence that 'gay men' molest children more than the population.

BUT- and here is the important But- men do.

Bigots like yourself often like to attack gays as being molesters- but the fact is that men- as a whole- are vastly more likely to sexually abuse a child- any child- than women.

Where are your attacks against men- against all of us men- for sexual attacks on children?

It will never happen. Factually lesbians are less likely to sexually abuse any child- than any group of men- straight or gay.

Somehow I don't think that will lead you to commending lesbians and condemning all men.

Of course, anybody still citing the proven faked data from the ancient Kinsey reports is just regurgitating rubbish, not science, no need to read further.

Of course, all of you homophobic bigots are still citing proven faked data is not science- just the usual bigotry.

I was providing the facts for rational adults- not you.

The 'Fact Finder' here is completely oblivious to the fact Kinsey and his crew admitted to faking data many years ago, and thinks it has posted real 'studies' or something. The rest of its posts aren't worth reading, since it only posts links to abstracts, not actual 'studies', and has never personally read even one 'study', as witnessed by repeated request for it to post a link to even one, so we can all enjoy a good laugh at the methodologies used in them. It also apparently thinks 'homophobia' is a real word, and thinks it sounds 'all sciencey n stuff', too. lol

The anti-science homophobic bigot here refuses to accept the science which shows that his homophobic lies are homophobic lies. He will say anything to try to harm Americans who happen to be gay.