Another Census

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  1. SFC Ollie
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    Yes you read it right. Here we are 14 trillion dollars in debt and our beloved government has a second census in 2 years.

    Now the money isn't the worst part of this, I understand the need for the 10 year census, and I filled it out and mailed it in answering each question. But this one? They have got to be shitting me...

    I'm going to write my congressman and both Senators over the stupidity of this one.

    It's called "The American Community Survey"
    And it was sent out by the US Census Bureau.
    Sample questions: ( And I am not changing a word.)

    In the past 12 months, what were the actual sales of all agricultural products from this property? (to be fair this question is only if you own more than one acre.)

    About when was this building first built?

    When did person 1 (listed on page 2) move into this house, apartment, or mobile home?

    How many separate rooms are in this house, apartment, or mobile home?

    How many of these rooms are bed rooms?

    (Are they planning on moving in here?)

    Does this house, apartment, or mobile home have-

    a. hot and cold running water?
    b. a flush toilet?
    c. a bathtub or shower?
    d. a sink with a faucet?
    e. a stove or range?
    f. a refrigerator?

    Why the fuck do they need to know all this BS. Isn't this America? Don't most homes have all these things? I'd be willing to bet they all do in my ZIP code


    Last month what was the cost of electricity for this house, apartment, mobile home?

    Last month what was the cost of gas for this house, apartment, mobile home?

    In the past 12 months, what was the cost of water and sewer for this house, apartment, mobile home?

    In the past 12 months did anyone in this household receive food stamps or a food stamp benefit card.

    About how much do you think this house and lot, apartment, mobile home (and lot if owned) would sell for if it were for sale?

    What is the annual Real Estate taxes on this property? (Shouldn't the government know this already?)

    Any way, it goes on about insurance costs and how much my mortgage payment is. Which I don't see why the Government needs to be concerned about.

    Then they get personal, Where we were born, about our education levels, do we speak any other languages at home, Ancestry or ethnic origin? WTF do they need that for? And they list choices....

    (for example Italian, Jamaican, African Am. Cambodian, Cape Verdean, Norwegian, Dominican, French Canadian, Haitian, Korean, Lebanese, Polish, Nigerian, Mexican, Taiwanese, Ukrainian, and so on) (this was an exact quote)

    I'm not so certain I want to even waste my 38 minutes(that's how long they guess it will take to fill it out) even dealing with this BS.

    Someone's got some explaining to do........
     
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    The American Community Survey is not new. It's been around for more than a decade now.
     
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    But Why? This is way beyond what the government needs to know.
     
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    This does look like way more than anybody's right to know. If we get one of these I'll be calling my Congressman, Senator, a letter to the editor will be published, and all area and national talk shows can expect a call.

    Unless it is voluntary. If it is mandatory it is way over the top.
     
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    Well, maybe it's busy work to keep bodies busy or busy bodies.

    And the way politics are going, information is ammo.
     
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    From their FAQ

    Do I have to answer the questions on the American Community Survey?

    Yes, Your response to this survey is required by law (Title 13, U.S. Code Sections 141 and 193) Title 13 as changed by Title 18, imposes a penalty for not responding. We estimate this survey will take about 38 minutes to complete.
     
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    So everyone is required by law to tell the government whether or not you own a damn refrigerator? That's whacked, and sounds a whole lot like impeding on my right to privacy... or what privacy I thought we were supposed to have.

    So I'd fill out their stinking, invasive, unconstitutional survey, shove it back in it's return envelope, and then throw in a bunch of cigarette butts and ash in with it and seal it. Let them open that.
     
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    Yep, Steve answered this earlier in the coffee shop. They will fine you 1,000.00 if you don't answer it.
    And I bet you that they will take it out of your wages if your refuse to pay it.
    They will get the information one way or the other.
    This is COMMUNISM at it's finest.
     
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    My research shows that there are members of congress who say this is unconstitutional. Ron Paul being one of them. I'll be firing off a letter to my congressman (as worthless as he is) and to both Senators (as about worthless as they are) And I'll fill out their survey.

    But they will have to call or come to the house to get all the straight answers..... If they want to waste money to get in my personal business then they need to make it worth while.....

    I'll be looking for any groups who are working against this thing and starting one if there aren't any.... This could take a long time....
     
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    Well I fired off the following email through facebook. And it sent it twice.





    Dear Representative Ryan
    Senator Brown
    Senator Portman
    President Obama,

    I received the American Community Survey in the mail today. I question
    first the constitutionality of some of the questions, and then the cost of
    doing such a survey just a year after the 10 year census called for in the
    constitution.

    If you haven't read some of these questions I suggest and request that you
    obtain a copy of the survey/census and read it.

    I don't know why the government needs to know my opinion of what my home
    might sell for, if it were for sale. This is only one of many portions of
    this survey that simply do not set right in my mind.

    Looks like it would be illegal for me not to fill it out, but instead of
    choosing an ancestry like the survey asks; I think I would rather just be
    an American.

    Sincerely,

    E W Oliver, SFC, US Army, Retired
     

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