And the other shoe drops; No more illegal aliens

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    One of the constants running through the healthcare debate has been the question of coverage for illegal immigrants. From the beginning I have said it would not be a problem, Obama would simply grant amnesty to the 12 million or so criminals thus solving the question of healthcare coverage for "undocumented resident aliens." As it turns out, he has begun to lay the foundation for just such a move.

    I opposed to the IRCA Amnesty of 1986 (the "one-time only" blanket amnesty for some 2.8 million illegal aliens), I was against amnesty of 1994(a temporary rolling amnesty for 578,000 illegal aliens, Section 245(i)), I was against the extension of the 1994 amnesty in 1997, I opposed the NACARA Amnesty of 1997 (an amnesty for nearly one million illegal aliens from Central America), I was opposed to the Haitian amnesty act of 1998 (an amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti), I railed against the Late Amnesty of 2000 (an amnesty for approximately 400,000 illegal aliens who claimed they should have been included under the 1986 IRCA amnesty), and the extension of the 1994 rolling amnesty (Section 245(i)) in 2000 got my dander up. I was against Bush's "earned legalization program" in 2004, and I oppose amnesty now.


    I do not believe you reward bad or illegal behavior. You don't do it with your children and you certainly don't do it for adults who know better. It only encourages others to break the law(s). Plain and simple.
     
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    Remarkable isn't it?

    And this will only further feed the swell of hero support for Joe Wilson's accusation that Obama was dishonest during his speech to Congress. While Obama's words said one thing, we now know clearly his intent was entirely another.

    He LIES!!!!
     
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    You guys are intellectually dishonest.

    What about "HERE LEGALLY" do you not understand?
     
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    Will you PLEASE stop pointing out FACTS to these morons? It is SO getting in the way of their agenda...
     
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    Do you understand the context of Obama's message here? He is advocating making all of the current illegals LEGAL with a legislative stroke of the pen - and then as such, they will qualify for healthcare.

    Thus, when Obama stated that the plan would not cover illegals, but follows that up by stating he simply wishes to make the illegal now legal, HE is being intellectually dishonest.

    Open your eyes pard.

    Obama lied before Congress - and thus lied to the American people...
     
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    Holy shit---can you read ???
     
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    No one is being "intellectually dishonest." Unless it is you two. Or perhaps you were just so blinded by the light that is Obama you couldn't read the opening sentence in the article? Here, let me help you:

     
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    Exactly! The FACT is that Obama is being so misleading - he tells Congress no coverage for illegals, then steps in front of a pro-immigration bill crowd and tells them we must make the 12 millions illegals in America legal so they can get healthcare.

    The dishonesty is ASTOUNDING.
     
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    It appears the reader feedback on the Washington Times article shares similar outrage as some in this thread regarding Obama making illegals legal and then giving them healthcare...


    NastyNan

    So now are we back up to $47 million. Does Joe Wilson get to call him a liar again? Just how dishonest and cowardly can one idiot president become in such a short time? He's not even a rookie - we're talking T-ball.Mark as offensive
    browncow

    This idea from President looks like a lot of the other great ideas. Does anyone believe democrats under the thumb of President Obama will not bend the law as far as needed to get more voters under progressive control? I guess the President will tell us if the monster medical socialist plan is passed he is going to be forced to break the constitution's back if needed to get illegals legal.

    MindTinker

    "anyone in the country legally should be covered" ~~~ Humm. . . . So, a person who, maybe, has a severe illness for which he/she cannot get immediate treatment, due to the long wait periods under the socialized healthcare system of his/her own country, may be able to come to America legally, say, under a tourist visa of some sort (legally mind you) and, thereby, be able to check into an American hospital for coverage under Obamacare? . . . Brilliant Constitutional lawyer we have as our President, folks.

    bandaid

    This is pure BS. The ONLY reason b.o. and the left want to legalize the illegal aliens in this country and give them free health care and all the other benefits they can is to garner votes=power. This is a disgrace. Immigrants who are here illegally should be deported immediately, and not allowed in until they can do it the right way. I am sick of people scoffing at the laws in this country, including b.o. and his cronies.

    MindTinker

    The next DC TEA Party will be more than the million+ who showed up Sept 12th. Obviously, Obama didn't hear that crowd.

    volunteerchild

    And the more he talks like this, the more even the old time Democrats are no longer listening.
    sovereignty

    "Mr. Obama said legalizing illegal immigrants is a way to take the sting out of the entire issue." How utterly STUPID is the imbecile at the helm of this country? To those idiots who stole the White House for him..... well, as the saying goes "stupid is as stupid does"!

    mac691

    Thanks Pres. I guess you think that you just haven't done enough damage to the fabric of this country. Hey, assclown, how is this for an idea. We create a new tax. Dems alone support all their idiotic ideas from their own pockets instead of stealing from hard working legal Americans.

    skytop

    The deceptive president wants to give, give give to the illegals. He is actually buying their votes. This is appaling. It is a total disgrace. This president wants to overload the U.S. financial system to the breaking point. This is TOTAL GREED, total self serving policies, and designed to leathally damage the country.

    JFKdem

    Whomever is writing his teleprompter speeches needs to be replaced, BHO is looking more like a fool (Jimmy Carter) every day.
     
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    I guess Wilson was wrong when he shouted "You lie." Illegals won't be covered under Obamacare... because there will be no more illegals.
     
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