Shusha
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You say you agree with many of these principles. Perhaps this could be a basis for discussion.
Oh for the love of ....
The very first sentence in that video is this:
Section 5 in the law of political parties and section 7A of the Basic Law stipulates that any party platform that calls for full and complete equality between Jews and non-Jews can be disqualified from any political post...
Yeah. No. That is SO not what these sections say. There is nothing there about equality or equal treatment under the law. Let's take a look at what Basic Law Section 7A actually says:
a. A candidates' list shall not participate in elections to the Knesset, and a person shall not be a candidate for election to the Knesset, if the objects or actions of the list or the actions of the person, expressly or by implication, include one of the following:
- negation of the existence of the State of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state;
- incitement to racism;
- support of armed struggle, by a hostile state or a terrorist organization, against the State of Israel.
3. Ya can't be elected part of the government of Israel if your intent is to support armed struggle against the State of which you are part of the government. In other words, you can't support anyone who is violently hostile toward your own government. Well, no shit. This says nothing about equality or equal treatment of citizens. Its the simple avoidance of treason within your own government. Well, duh.
2. Ya can't be part of the government and incite racism. Well, duh again.
1. You can't negate the purpose of Israel as being the State formed for the preservation and celebration of the culture and ethnicity of the Jewish people. If you are having a hard time understanding why this concept is okay, substitute France and French, or Spain and Spanish or Japan and Japanese -- as in "negation of the existence of the State of Japan as a Japanese state".
In other words, the only conditions under which you would be able to support such an idea is by negating the concept of nations centered around groups of homogeneous ethnic groups or cultures.
Again, I have no problem if you do this. As long as you apply it equally. So France is a fundamentally unequal society because its French. And Japan is a fundamentally unequal society because its Japanese. If you apply it only to Israel I will point out that you are inconsistent in your argument and discriminatory.