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[Jroc]

US, Iran discussing nuclear talks compromise

VIENNA — With time for negotiations running short, the US and Iran are discussing a compromise that would let Iran keep much of its uranium-enriching technology but reduce its potential to make nuclear weapons, two diplomats tell The Associated Press.

Such a compromise could break the decade-long deadlock on attempts to limit Iranian activities that could be used to make nuclear weapons: Tehran refuses to meet US-led demands for deep cuts in the number of centrifuges it uses to enrich uranium, a process that can create material for anything from chemotherapy to the core of an atomic bomb.

Experts warn that any reduction in centrifuge efficiency is reversible more quickly than a straight decrease in the number of machines, an argument that could be seized upon by powerful critics of the talks in the US Congress.

The diplomats are familiar with the talks but spoke only on condition of anonymity because they are not authorised to discuss them. Ahead of a new round of negotiations this week, they said there is no guarantee that the proposal can be finessed into an agreement.

According to the diplomats, the proposal could leave most of Iran's nearly 10,000 centrifuges in place but reconfigure them to reduce the amount of enriched uranium they produce.

One of the diplomats said the deal could include other limitations to ensure that Tehran's programme is kept in check.

For one, Iran would be allowed to store only a specific amount of uranium gas, which is fed into centrifuges for enrichment. The amount of gas would depend on the number of centrifuges it keeps.

Second, Iran would commit to shipping out most of the enriched uranium it produces, leaving it without enough to make a bomb. Iran denies any interest in nuclear weapons and says its programme is for peaceful uses such as nuclear power and medical technology.

Iran offered last year to reduce the output of its centrifuges if it could keep most of them going. That was rejected back then by the US and its five negotiating partners. But both sides are under increasing pressure ahead of two deadlines: to agree on main points by late March, and to reach a comprehensive deal by June 30.

US Iran discussing nuclear talks compromise diplomats The Jordan Times

 

[Jroc]

I don't think so-----Iran is surrounded by enemies------Sunni Pakistan to the east and sunni arab countries to the west.
The virulence with which sunnis and Shiites hate each other is protecting the world

US and Iran moving closer to nuclear deal, EU diplomats tell Israeli officials

Possible deal includes understanding whereby Iran would be allowed to keep centrifuges in exchange for maintaining regional stability in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.

According to EU officials, US Secretary of State John Kerry and his Iranian counterpart, Mohammad Javad Zarif, have discussed increasing the number of centrifuges which Iran would be permitted to keep. In exchange, the Iranians would undertake an obligation to bring their influence to bear in order to ensure quiet in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.

European diplomats are quoted by Israeli officials as saying that the US in recent weeks has made significant concessions in its talks with Iran, so much so that it is willing to permit Tehran to operate 6,500 centrifuges while lifting sanctions that have hurt its economy this past decade.

The Europeans have told the Israelis that these concessions were offered in exchange for Iranian promises to maintain regional stability. According to Army Radio, the EU is opposed to the proposed linkage between the nuclear issue and other geopolitical matters. In fact, the Europeans suspect that Washington is operating behind Brussels’ back and that Kerry has not bothered to keep them in the loop in his talks with Zarif.

Israel is concerned that the Obama administration’s willingness to allow Iran to keep centrifuges would in effect render Tehran a “nuclear threshold state,” enabling it to assemble a nuclear bomb within months if it so chooses. Such a scenario is unacceptable to the Israelis.

US and Iran moving closer to nuclear deal EU diplomats tell Israeli officials - Israel News - Jerusalem Post


Statistikhengst

 

[Annie]

I don't think so-----Iran is surrounded by enemies------Sunni Pakistan to the east and sunni arab countries to the west.
The virulence with which sunnis and Shiites hate each other is protecting the world

US and Iran moving closer to nuclear deal, EU diplomats tell Israeli officials

Possible deal includes understanding whereby Iran would be allowed to keep centrifuges in exchange for maintaining regional stability in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.

Leading from behind, something for history.

According to EU officials, US Secretary of State John Kerry and his Iranian counterpart, Mohammad Javad Zarif, have discussed increasing the number of centrifuges which Iran would be permitted to keep. In exchange, the Iranians would undertake an obligation to bring their influence to bear in order to ensure quiet in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.

European diplomats are quoted by Israeli officials as saying that the US in recent weeks has made significant concessions in its talks with Iran, so much so that it is willing to permit Tehran to operate 6,500 centrifuges while lifting sanctions that have hurt its economy this past decade.

The Europeans have told the Israelis that these concessions were offered in exchange for Iranian promises to maintain regional stability. According to Army Radio, the EU is opposed to the proposed linkage between the nuclear issue and other geopolitical matters. In fact, the Europeans suspect that Washington is operating behind Brussels’ back and that Kerry has not bothered to keep them in the loop in his talks with Zarif.

Israel is concerned that the Obama administration’s willingness to allow Iran to keep centrifuges would in effect render Tehran a “nuclear threshold state,” enabling it to assemble a nuclear bomb within months if it so chooses. Such a scenario is unacceptable to the Israelis.

US and Iran moving closer to nuclear deal EU diplomats tell Israeli officials - Israel News - Jerusalem Post


Statistikhengst

 

[Jroc]

I don't think so-----Iran is surrounded by enemies------Sunni Pakistan to the east and sunni arab countries to the west.
The virulence with which sunnis and Shiites hate each other is protecting the world

US and Iran moving closer to nuclear deal, EU diplomats tell Israeli officials

Possible deal includes understanding whereby Iran would be allowed to keep centrifuges in exchange for maintaining regional stability in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.

Leading from behind, something for history.

According to EU officials, US Secretary of State John Kerry and his Iranian counterpart, Mohammad Javad Zarif, have discussed increasing the number of centrifuges which Iran would be permitted to keep. In exchange, the Iranians would undertake an obligation to bring their influence to bear in order to ensure quiet in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.

European diplomats are quoted by Israeli officials as saying that the US in recent weeks has made significant concessions in its talks with Iran, so much so that it is willing to permit Tehran to operate 6,500 centrifuges while lifting sanctions that have hurt its economy this past decade.

The Europeans have told the Israelis that these concessions were offered in exchange for Iranian promises to maintain regional stability. According to Army Radio, the EU is opposed to the proposed linkage between the nuclear issue and other geopolitical matters. In fact, the Europeans suspect that Washington is operating behind Brussels’ back and that Kerry has not bothered to keep them in the loop in his talks with Zarif.

Israel is concerned that the Obama administration’s willingness to allow Iran to keep centrifuges would in effect render Tehran a “nuclear threshold state,” enabling it to assemble a nuclear bomb within months if it so chooses. Such a scenario is unacceptable to the Israelis.

US and Iran moving closer to nuclear deal EU diplomats tell Israeli officials - Israel News - Jerusalem Post


Statistikhengst

Obama wants Iran as a regional power to counter the Sunnis. If they get nukes, then they get nukes. I don't think he cares really

 

[Annie]

I don't think so-----Iran is surrounded by enemies------Sunni Pakistan to the east and sunni arab countries to the west.
The virulence with which sunnis and Shiites hate each other is protecting the world

US and Iran moving closer to nuclear deal, EU diplomats tell Israeli officials

Possible deal includes understanding whereby Iran would be allowed to keep centrifuges in exchange for maintaining regional stability in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.

Leading from behind, something for history.

According to EU officials, US Secretary of State John Kerry and his Iranian counterpart, Mohammad Javad Zarif, have discussed increasing the number of centrifuges which Iran would be permitted to keep. In exchange, the Iranians would undertake an obligation to bring their influence to bear in order to ensure quiet in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.

European diplomats are quoted by Israeli officials as saying that the US in recent weeks has made significant concessions in its talks with Iran, so much so that it is willing to permit Tehran to operate 6,500 centrifuges while lifting sanctions that have hurt its economy this past decade.

The Europeans have told the Israelis that these concessions were offered in exchange for Iranian promises to maintain regional stability. According to Army Radio, the EU is opposed to the proposed linkage between the nuclear issue and other geopolitical matters. In fact, the Europeans suspect that Washington is operating behind Brussels’ back and that Kerry has not bothered to keep them in the loop in his talks with Zarif.

Israel is concerned that the Obama administration’s willingness to allow Iran to keep centrifuges would in effect render Tehran a “nuclear threshold state,” enabling it to assemble a nuclear bomb within months if it so chooses. Such a scenario is unacceptable to the Israelis.

US and Iran moving closer to nuclear deal EU diplomats tell Israeli officials - Israel News - Jerusalem Post


Statistikhengst

Obama wants Iran as a regional power to counter the Sunnis. If they get nukes, then they get nukes. I don't think he cares really

I agree, he doesn't care.

 

[RandomVariable]

I don't think so-----Iran is surrounded by enemies------Sunni Pakistan to the east and sunni arab countries to the west.
The virulence with which sunnis and Shiites hate each other is protecting the world

US and Iran moving closer to nuclear deal, EU diplomats tell Israeli officials

Possible deal includes understanding whereby Iran would be allowed to keep centrifuges in exchange for maintaining regional stability in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.

Leading from behind, something for history.

According to EU officials, US Secretary of State John Kerry and his Iranian counterpart, Mohammad Javad Zarif, have discussed increasing the number of centrifuges which Iran would be permitted to keep. In exchange, the Iranians would undertake an obligation to bring their influence to bear in order to ensure quiet in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.

European diplomats are quoted by Israeli officials as saying that the US in recent weeks has made significant concessions in its talks with Iran, so much so that it is willing to permit Tehran to operate 6,500 centrifuges while lifting sanctions that have hurt its economy this past decade.

The Europeans have told the Israelis that these concessions were offered in exchange for Iranian promises to maintain regional stability. According to Army Radio, the EU is opposed to the proposed linkage between the nuclear issue and other geopolitical matters. In fact, the Europeans suspect that Washington is operating behind Brussels’ back and that Kerry has not bothered to keep them in the loop in his talks with Zarif.

Israel is concerned that the Obama administration’s willingness to allow Iran to keep centrifuges would in effect render Tehran a “nuclear threshold state,” enabling it to assemble a nuclear bomb within months if it so chooses. Such a scenario is unacceptable to the Israelis.

US and Iran moving closer to nuclear deal EU diplomats tell Israeli officials - Israel News - Jerusalem Post


Statistikhengst

Obama wants Iran as a regional power to counter the Sunnis. If they get nukes, then they get nukes. I don't think he cares really

I can not tell if it is that way or the other way around. Very likely both.

 

[fmdog44]

The average IQ of the typical American voter is preceded by a negative sign and who do you guess voted Obama in to office?
Is this not the same group of "The View" watchers and drug addicts that will vote the wicked witch in? With ISIS and Putin both reaching the boiling point that should happen in about 18-24 months guess what the old hag will come up with as a solution to both. Have a nice life.

 

[RandomVariable]

The average IQ of the typical American voter is preceded by a negative sign and who do you guess voted Obama in to office?
Is this not the same group of "The View" watchers and drug addicts that will vote the wicked witch in? With ISIS and Putin both reaching the boiling point that should happen in about 18-24 months guess what the old hag will come up with as a solution to both. Have a nice life.

ISIS is ours and we need to close up shop on them. Let Putin have Eastern Ukraine. Obama does not run anything when it comes to foreign policy. He follows the yellow brick road which is laid by others.

 

[ChrisL]

The average IQ of the typical American voter is preceded by a negative sign and who do you guess voted Obama in to office?
Is this not the same group of "The View" watchers and drug addicts that will vote the wicked witch in? With ISIS and Putin both reaching the boiling point that should happen in about 18-24 months guess what the old hag will come up with as a solution to both. Have a nice life.

ISIS is ours and we need to close up shop on them. Let Putin have Eastern Ukraine. Obama does not run anything when it comes to foreign policy. He follows the yellow brick road which is laid by others.

Oh . . . so now you want the United States to get involved?

 

[RandomVariable]

The average IQ of the typical American voter is preceded by a negative sign and who do you guess voted Obama in to office?
Is this not the same group of "The View" watchers and drug addicts that will vote the wicked witch in? With ISIS and Putin both reaching the boiling point that should happen in about 18-24 months guess what the old hag will come up with as a solution to both. Have a nice life.

ISIS is ours and we need to close up shop on them. Let Putin have Eastern Ukraine. Obama does not run anything when it comes to foreign policy. He follows the yellow brick road which is laid by others.

Oh . . . so now you want the United States to get involved?

And where have I ever said otherwise?

 

[ChrisL]

The average IQ of the typical American voter is preceded by a negative sign and who do you guess voted Obama in to office?
Is this not the same group of "The View" watchers and drug addicts that will vote the wicked witch in? With ISIS and Putin both reaching the boiling point that should happen in about 18-24 months guess what the old hag will come up with as a solution to both. Have a nice life.

ISIS is ours and we need to close up shop on them. Let Putin have Eastern Ukraine. Obama does not run anything when it comes to foreign policy. He follows the yellow brick road which is laid by others.

Oh . . . so now you want the United States to get involved?

And where have I ever said otherwise?

So, apparently, depending upon the president, you are okay with the United States involving itself in affairs that do not affect us directly? If it's GWB, it's bad. If it's Obama, it's all good?

 

[RandomVariable]

The average IQ of the typical American voter is preceded by a negative sign and who do you guess voted Obama in to office?
Is this not the same group of "The View" watchers and drug addicts that will vote the wicked witch in? With ISIS and Putin both reaching the boiling point that should happen in about 18-24 months guess what the old hag will come up with as a solution to both. Have a nice life.

ISIS is ours and we need to close up shop on them. Let Putin have Eastern Ukraine. Obama does not run anything when it comes to foreign policy. He follows the yellow brick road which is laid by others.

Oh . . . so now you want the United States to get involved?

And where have I ever said otherwise?

So, apparently, depending upon the president, you are okay with the United States involving itself in affairs that do not affect us directly? If it's GWB, it's bad. If it's Obama, it's all good?

Didn't we already have a conversation about how big of a moron you are?

 

[ChrisL]

The average IQ of the typical American voter is preceded by a negative sign and who do you guess voted Obama in to office?
Is this not the same group of "The View" watchers and drug addicts that will vote the wicked witch in? With ISIS and Putin both reaching the boiling point that should happen in about 18-24 months guess what the old hag will come up with as a solution to both. Have a nice life.

ISIS is ours and we need to close up shop on them. Let Putin have Eastern Ukraine. Obama does not run anything when it comes to foreign policy. He follows the yellow brick road which is laid by others.

Oh . . . so now you want the United States to get involved?

And where have I ever said otherwise?

So, apparently, depending upon the president, you are okay with the United States involving itself in affairs that do not affect us directly? If it's GWB, it's bad. If it's Obama, it's all good?

Didn't we already have a conversation about how big of a moron you are?

Oh, is that all you have? Lol. Typical. You lose the argument and resort to name-calling. Makes you look OH SO intelligent . . . not.

 

[Jroc]

This piece of shit John Kerry is the Secretary of State what a joke he is...

Kerry Blasts Netanyahu: He's 'Wrong' On Iran Deal Like He Was On Iraq War

"The prime minister was profoundly forward-leaning and outspoken about the importance of invading Iraq under George W. Bush," Kerry replied. "We all know what happened with that decision."

Kerry Blasts Netanyahu He s Wrong On Iran Deal Like He Was On Iraq War

 

[Jroc]

Obama Declares War on Israel

Instead of congratulating the Israeli people for being one of the few countries in the Middle East to hold real free and democratic elections, Obama has decided to inflict collective punishment not on Netanyahu, but on all Israelis, even its Muslim and Christian citizens, for having an election that came out not the way he wanted it to.

The terrorists have also been following with great enthusiasm reports that the Obama Administration is considering reassessing its policy -- that the U.S. no longer considers Israel a strategic ally in the Middle East.

In short, Obama's anti-Israel stance is the best gift the Americans could have given to Muslim terrorists and radical Arabs.

Obama also seems not to want to face the fact that because of his withdrawals and neglect, the situation in the Middle East today, with the rise of Islamic State and other terror groups, is not the same as it was even five years ago

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Thanks to Obama's policies, the Iranians and their friends are now in control of Iraq, Yemen, Syria and Lebanon, and much of Bahrain, and have surrounded the oilfields of the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile the U.S. has been forced to close down its embassies in three Arab countries -- Syria, Libya and Yemen.

Even Palestinians and Arabs are aware of the fact that under the current circumstances a Palestinian state would sooner or later be controlled by jihadists and Islamic terrorists, whose dream is the destruction of Israel, Europe and the U.S.

The last thing the Americans and Europeans need is another Islamic extremist country that exports terrorism -- with nuclear weapons -- to all parts of the earth.

The real enemy is not Netanyahu. The real enemy is Iran, Hizbullah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad and Islamic State

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Obama Declares War on Israel

 

[Jroc]

Anti-Israel PLO Ally Hosted for Meeting At White House
One of several anti-Israel activists who met with admin

An anti-Israel activist who served as an expert witness on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) in a recent terrorism trial was hosted for a meeting with senior White House officials, according to visitor logs released by the Obama administration and media reports.

Michael Sfard, an anti-Israel activist who has reportedly been paid by the PLO to serve as an expert witness in terrorism trials against it, met in December 2014 with a senior White House National Security Council (NSC) member for a meeting about the Middle East, according to the logs and reports.

Sfard, a lawyer, serves as the legal council for the left-wing Israeli group Yesh Din, which advocateslawfare, or the practice of trying Israeli officials for so-called war crimes when they travel abroad. Critics have dubbed the lawfare movement anti-Israel in nature.

Sfard is the latest in a string of officials and voices openly hostile to the Israeli government, including pro-Iranian ones, who have recently been hosted at the White House.

Anti-Israel PLO Ally Hosted for Meeting At White House Washington Free Beacon

 

[Jroc]

i started a separate thread on this, but it belongs here as well...


‘We’re On Our Own’

Michael Oren reveals how Barack Obama tore apart the U.S.-Israel alliance

The diplomatic rupture endangers Israel in another way. It preceded Obama’s quest for détente with Iran, Israel’s greatest enemy and most pressing threat. Oren was outraged in 2013 when he learnedthat the administration had been conducting secret negotiations with the mullahs. Now, with the United States about to clear the way for Iranian nukes and flood the Iranian economy with cash, Israel is all the more at risk.

“Obama says Iran is not North Korea,” Oren said, “and Bibi says Iran’s worse than 50 North Koreas. It all comes down to that.” Fixated on striking a deal, Obama is preparing to concede the longstanding demand that Iran disclose its past nuclear weapons research, is ignoring the issue of Iranian missile development, and is standing idle as Iran props up Assad, arms Hezbollah with rockets, and promotes sectarianism in Iraq. Israel is hemmed in—by Iranian proxies and Sunni militants on its borders, by the threat of a third intifada on the West Bank, by global nongovernmental organizations, by a condescending, flippant, and bullying U.S. president whose default emotional state is pique.

As if to make Oren’s case for him, the Obama administration responded to the publication of Ally with neither silence nor a reiteration of American policy toward Israel but with vituperation, demanding that both Kulanu Party chairman Moshe Kahlon and Prime Minister Netanyahu apologize for criticismsOren had made. Kahlon sheepishly distanced himself from Oren, and Netanyahu won’t comment publicly, but the episode illustrates precisely the model of U.S.-Israeli relations outlined in this book: A “family” argument where the criticism runs in only one direction. On the one hand, when the supreme leader of Iran calls John Kerry a liar and details plans to destroy Israel, the Obama administration brushes it off. On the other, when a former ambassador writes a memoir based on a diary he kept while in office, the administration loses its mind.

The alliance has faltered to such a degree that Oren is morose. He wonders whether Israel is in the same precarious position it was in 1967, before the Six Day War, or in 1948, when it came close to never being born. Neither option is comforting. David Horovitz asked him, “Are people going to look back in a few years’ time and say, ‘This is what they were talking about in Israel as Iran closed in on the bomb and they were wiped out?’” Oren’s response: “It’s happened before in history, hasn’t it?”

It has. And it may happen again. But whatever happens, thanks to Michael Oren, history will know that an inexperienced and ideologically motivated president drove a lethal wedge between the United States of America and the young, tiny, besieged Jewish State.

We re On Our Own Washington Free Beacon

 

[CMike]

Obama's hostility toward Israel is just utterly disgusting.

 

[Jroc]

Obama's hostility toward Israel is just utterly disgusting.

So why don't the liberals see it?

 

[Ropey]

Obama's hostility toward Israel is just utterly disgusting.

So why don't the liberals see it?

Because they do see it. It's what they want.



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