Amnesty Internationa: China executed more people in 2016, than all other nations combined.

[RodISHI]

I'm sure all of the socialist countries will say it was "fair justice" and they had due process. I wonder how many were executed on trumped up charges or because they had a political opinion and were courageous enough to share it?

They have a tendency of executing people for white collar crimes. In the US executions are never for the political classes or the rich, they look after their own.

I remember one case in China where a woman basically scammed people out of millions of dollars, so they executed her.

They also executed the ones that tainted the baby formula didn't they?

Probably. I know of the case, but I don't know what happened to the people, but it wouldn't surprise me. However we do know that if some white collar person did such a crime, he wouldn't get executed for it in the US.

True but when those companies owners or ceo's purposely ignored a potential for death and the deaths occurred like in the peanut dudes case it should be an option.

 

[martybegan]

I'm sure all of the socialist countries will say it was "fair justice" and they had due process. I wonder how many were executed on trumped up charges or because they had a political opinion and were courageous enough to share it?

They have a tendency of executing people for white collar crimes. In the US executions are never for the political classes or the rich, they look after their own.

I remember one case in China where a woman basically scammed people out of millions of dollars, so they executed her.

it's mostly because we only execute people for murder, and usually only really really bad ones, premeditated, when done in the commission of another crime, multiple (either spree or serial) or for killing cops.

It has less to do with economic or political might and more to do with poor people just tend to murder more than rich ones. Correlation if not causation.

Well, the point being that in China they will execute when people commit bad crimes to do with money. The US doesn't. Why not? Why do the politicians choose crimes that they generally don't do? Er... well... because... they're looking after their own.

Or maybe the ultimate punishment should be reserved for the ultimate crime. We used to execute people for non-murders, cattle rustling, insurrection, etc, but besides military justice, our system reserves capital punishment only for the crime of murder.

Well, the ultimate crime is what? Just murder? Why is murder worse than stealing millions of pounds from people?

The point is that a country like America has capital punishment, but then criticizes China for using capital punishment. It's absurd.

No it isn't. Our system spends on average a decade making sure the person to be executed did the crime.

 

[yiostheoy]

China remains world's biggest executioner — Amnesty - News

BEIJING, China (AFP) — China executed more people in 2016 than all other nations combined, Amnesty International said Tuesday, as death penalties in the world decreased overall.

The human rights organisation estimates the Asian giant alone killed "thousands" of people, a figure based on examinations of court records and news reports.

All other countries together executed at least 1,032 people last year -- a decline of 37 per cent compared to 2015.

China was one of four countries, including Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq, that were responsible for 87 per cent of all executions last year, the activist group said.


Amnesty's report found that hundreds of death sentences, including cases involving foreign nationals, had been omitted from China's public database of court verdicts, suggesting a concerted effort to hide the extent of the country's killings.

The ruling Communist Party considers the death toll a state secret.

"China is really the only country that has such a complete regime of secrecy over executions," Amnesty's East Asia director Nicholas Bequelin said at a press conference in Hong Kong...

I support the death penalty here in America, but this sounds more like Stalin's murderous purges. And, as usual, it's a leftist country that lacks transparency.

The only thing this article tells us is that China executes about 300 people per year while the USA is currently only 20 per year.

We all know the US process is woefully slow and in some large states like Calif. and NYS woefully inadequate.

If you tripled the US rate as it probably should be, then China with its greater population is right on.

US population 319 million
Chinese population 1.4 billion

US ratio of population 23%.

 

[yiostheoy]

China remains world's biggest executioner — Amnesty - News

BEIJING, China (AFP) — China executed more people in 2016 than all other nations combined, Amnesty International said Tuesday, as death penalties in the world decreased overall.

The human rights organisation estimates the Asian giant alone killed "thousands" of people, a figure based on examinations of court records and news reports.

All other countries together executed at least 1,032 people last year -- a decline of 37 per cent compared to 2015.

China was one of four countries, including Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq, that were responsible for 87 per cent of all executions last year, the activist group said.


Amnesty's report found that hundreds of death sentences, including cases involving foreign nationals, had been omitted from China's public database of court verdicts, suggesting a concerted effort to hide the extent of the country's killings.

The ruling Communist Party considers the death toll a state secret.

"China is really the only country that has such a complete regime of secrecy over executions," Amnesty's East Asia director Nicholas Bequelin said at a press conference in Hong Kong...

I support the death penalty here in America, but this sounds more like Stalin's murderous purges. And, as usual, it's a leftist country that lacks transparency.

Some perspective.

Georgia with a population of 10 million, executed 9 people in 2016. That's 1 execution for every 1.1 million people. No one knows how many were killed in China. If 1,000 people were killed then this would be a lower rate than Georgia. If Georgia had a population the size of China's, it would have executed nearly 1,200 people in 2016.

The article indicates about 300 executions in China per year for recent years.

 

[yiostheoy]

I'm sure all of the socialist countries will say it was "fair justice" and they had due process. I wonder how many were executed on trumped up charges or because they had a political opinion and were courageous enough to share it?

Probably the same as in the USA with race being the major issue in the USA.

 

[yiostheoy]

I'm sure all of the socialist countries will say it was "fair justice" and they had due process. I wonder how many were executed on trumped up charges or because they had a political opinion and were courageous enough to share it?

They have a tendency of executing people for white collar crimes. In the US executions are never for the political classes or the rich, they look after their own.

I remember one case in China where a woman basically scammed people out of millions of dollars, so they executed her.

it's mostly because we only execute people for murder, and usually only really really bad ones, premeditated, when done in the commission of another crime, multiple (either spree or serial) or for killing cops.

It has less to do with economic or political might and more to do with poor people just tend to murder more than rich ones. Correlation if not causation.

And not many executions at all in some large states like Calif. and NYS.

 

[yiostheoy]

I'm sure all of the socialist countries will say it was "fair justice" and they had due process. I wonder how many were executed on trumped up charges or because they had a political opinion and were courageous enough to share it?

They have a tendency of executing people for white collar crimes. In the US executions are never for the political classes or the rich, they look after their own.

I remember one case in China where a woman basically scammed people out of millions of dollars, so they executed her.

it's mostly because we only execute people for murder, and usually only really really bad ones, premeditated, when done in the commission of another crime, multiple (either spree or serial) or for killing cops.

It has less to do with economic or political might and more to do with poor people just tend to murder more than rich ones. Correlation if not causation.

A majority of people who are executed in China are those who voice political opinions against CCP. If the executed person was healthy, his/her organs are harvested for the benefit of Chinese oligarchs.

Prove it.

 

[yiostheoy]

Honestly I'm not sure China is the "world leader" in executions.
I read Saudi Arabia excutes 100 people since January 1 2017 to this day...
Maybe Saudi Arabia executes inmates sentenced to death more than China

Actually in terms of numbers, after China follows Iran, THEN Saudi Arabia, then Iraq, then the USA, then Pakistan, then Yemen, then N.Korea, then lovely Viet Nam.

Fascinating!

Death penalty statistics, country by country

 

[yiostheoy]

China remains world's biggest executioner — Amnesty - News

BEIJING, China (AFP) — China executed more people in 2016 than all other nations combined, Amnesty International said Tuesday, as death penalties in the world decreased overall.

The human rights organisation estimates the Asian giant alone killed "thousands" of people, a figure based on examinations of court records and news reports.

All other countries together executed at least 1,032 people last year -- a decline of 37 per cent compared to 2015.

China was one of four countries, including Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq, that were responsible for 87 per cent of all executions last year, the activist group said.


Amnesty's report found that hundreds of death sentences, including cases involving foreign nationals, had been omitted from China's public database of court verdicts, suggesting a concerted effort to hide the extent of the country's killings.

The ruling Communist Party considers the death toll a state secret.

"China is really the only country that has such a complete regime of secrecy over executions," Amnesty's East Asia director Nicholas Bequelin said at a press conference in Hong Kong...

I support the death penalty here in America, but this sounds more like Stalin's murderous purges. And, as usual, it's a leftist country that lacks transparency.

Some perspective.

Georgia with a population of 10 million, executed 9 people in 2016. That's 1 execution for every 1.1 million people. No one knows how many were killed in China. If 1,000 people were killed then this would be a lower rate than Georgia. If Georgia had a population the size of China's, it would have executed nearly 1,200 people in 2016.

Also, there are a lot of murderers in this country that should be executed but are not.

I've read some states have the death penalty but they don't use it.
For instance California is one of them...they didn't execute anybody since 2006.
And in Texas death row there is a man sentenced to death in 1976 and still waiting for execution

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California is the worst. They might as well get rid of their death penalty since they do not use it. It is a mere charade.

In terms of sheer numbers, Texas has the most, then Oklahoma next door to them, then Virginia, then Florida, then Missouri, etc.

Number of Executions by State and Region Since 1976 | Death Penalty Information Center

 

[esthermoon]

My country executed 58 inmates in 2007...I didn't know
Now I think executions are less than 2007 because our criminal code was amended a few years ago
I'm not sure because they don't say all about death penalty on the television

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Are there really morons who actually believe China only executes 300 people per year? Seriously?
There is no "freedom of information act" in countries like China. There are no "human rights" organizations like we have here.
You cannot openly criticize the government in China.
But they are going to believe China when it's propaganda bureau says only 300 people a year are executed?

What part of "Communist" don't they understand? Apparently NONE of it.

 

[yiostheoy]

I'm sure all of the socialist countries will say it was "fair justice" and they had due process. I wonder how many were executed on trumped up charges or because they had a political opinion and were courageous enough to share it?

They have a tendency of executing people for white collar crimes. In the US executions are never for the political classes or the rich, they look after their own.

I remember one case in China where a woman basically scammed people out of millions of dollars, so they executed her.

it's mostly because we only execute people for murder, and usually only really really bad ones, premeditated, when done in the commission of another crime, multiple (either spree or serial) or for killing cops.

It has less to do with economic or political might and more to do with poor people just tend to murder more than rich ones. Correlation if not causation.

A majority of people who are executed in China are those who voice political opinions against CCP. If the executed person was healthy, his/her organs are harvested for the benefit of Chinese oligarchs.

Do you have any evidence of this? The problem is that they do arrest such people, but records of who is getting executed isn't there.

Yes, they use organs, they "harvest" them so other people can get them. What's wrong with that? People are being executed, why not use their organs for other people?

Harvesting organs is the best idea anyone ever had.

This is the only way you can "restore" a life in exchange for having taken one.

Other than in the case of AIDS or hepatitis, this is an excellent solution to the problem of murder. In the future I suspect more nations will do this as well.

Hearts, heart-lung, kidneys -- these all have donor value.

 

[yiostheoy]

I read Chinese government neither confirm nor deny the fact they use executed prisoners' organs

That's a "yes" in Communist double-speak.

 

[yiostheoy]

I'm sure all of the socialist countries will say it was "fair justice" and they had due process. I wonder how many were executed on trumped up charges or because they had a political opinion and were courageous enough to share it?

They have a tendency of executing people for white collar crimes. In the US executions are never for the political classes or the rich, they look after their own.

I remember one case in China where a woman basically scammed people out of millions of dollars, so they executed her.

it's mostly because we only execute people for murder, and usually only really really bad ones, premeditated, when done in the commission of another crime, multiple (either spree or serial) or for killing cops.

It has less to do with economic or political might and more to do with poor people just tend to murder more than rich ones. Correlation if not causation.

Well, the point being that in China they will execute when people commit bad crimes to do with money. The US doesn't. Why not? Why do the politicians choose crimes that they generally don't do? Er... well... because... they're looking after their own.

Or maybe the ultimate punishment should be reserved for the ultimate crime. We used to execute people for non-murders, cattle rustling, insurrection, etc, but besides military justice, our system reserves capital punishment only for the crime of murder.

People have been arguing about execution until they are blue in the face for centuries.

The history of executions goes back to Hammurabi in 1800 BCE.

Moses copied the law into his Torah (which has become part of the Jewish Tenakh) and therefore Christians think it is ordained of God.

European nations have pretty much abandoned execution.

That currently leaves the USA, China, Viet Nam, Thailand, and the Muslim nations as the primary executors today.

This is the result of arguing until you are blue in the face.

Care to begin ?!

 

[yiostheoy]

My country executed 58 inmates in 2007...I didn't know
Now I think executions are less than 2007 because our criminal code was amended a few years ago
I'm not sure because they don't say all about death penalty on the television

Viet Nam's tradition of execution derives from 150 years of war against the French, Japanese, and Americans.

Plus China is right next door and they also believe in execution.

So it is a regional cultural issue.

Thailand also executes.

Of the 3 of them, Thailand is a really big sh!t hole with murder and slavery/prostitution and dope.

Viet Nam is the most civil and progressive of the 3 of them.

China probably the most strict, in the case of drug trafficking as well -- which kills more people than any other crime but Western nations do not execute for drug crimes.

 

[yiostheoy]

Are there really morons who actually believe China only executes 300 people per year? Seriously?
There is no "freedom of information act" in countries like China. There are no "human rights" organizations like we have here.
You cannot openly criticize the government in China.
But they are going to believe China when it's propaganda bureau says only 300 people a year are executed?

What part of "Communist" don't they understand? Apparently NONE of it.

Nice kitty avatar.

Ugly mind.

Ad hom.

Provide data or STFU.

 

[frigidweirdo]

They have a tendency of executing people for white collar crimes. In the US executions are never for the political classes or the rich, they look after their own.

I remember one case in China where a woman basically scammed people out of millions of dollars, so they executed her.

it's mostly because we only execute people for murder, and usually only really really bad ones, premeditated, when done in the commission of another crime, multiple (either spree or serial) or for killing cops.

It has less to do with economic or political might and more to do with poor people just tend to murder more than rich ones. Correlation if not causation.

Well, the point being that in China they will execute when people commit bad crimes to do with money. The US doesn't. Why not? Why do the politicians choose crimes that they generally don't do? Er... well... because... they're looking after their own.

Or maybe the ultimate punishment should be reserved for the ultimate crime. We used to execute people for non-murders, cattle rustling, insurrection, etc, but besides military justice, our system reserves capital punishment only for the crime of murder.

Well, the ultimate crime is what? Just murder? Why is murder worse than stealing millions of pounds from people?

The point is that a country like America has capital punishment, but then criticizes China for using capital punishment. It's absurd.

No it isn't. Our system spends on average a decade making sure the person to be executed did the crime.

How does that respond to what I said? Either I'm not getting your twist on this, or you're not getting mine.

 

[frigidweirdo]

China remains world's biggest executioner — Amnesty - News

BEIJING, China (AFP) — China executed more people in 2016 than all other nations combined, Amnesty International said Tuesday, as death penalties in the world decreased overall.

The human rights organisation estimates the Asian giant alone killed "thousands" of people, a figure based on examinations of court records and news reports.

All other countries together executed at least 1,032 people last year -- a decline of 37 per cent compared to 2015.

China was one of four countries, including Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq, that were responsible for 87 per cent of all executions last year, the activist group said.


Amnesty's report found that hundreds of death sentences, including cases involving foreign nationals, had been omitted from China's public database of court verdicts, suggesting a concerted effort to hide the extent of the country's killings.

The ruling Communist Party considers the death toll a state secret.

"China is really the only country that has such a complete regime of secrecy over executions," Amnesty's East Asia director Nicholas Bequelin said at a press conference in Hong Kong...

I support the death penalty here in America, but this sounds more like Stalin's murderous purges. And, as usual, it's a leftist country that lacks transparency.

Some perspective.

Georgia with a population of 10 million, executed 9 people in 2016. That's 1 execution for every 1.1 million people. No one knows how many were killed in China. If 1,000 people were killed then this would be a lower rate than Georgia. If Georgia had a population the size of China's, it would have executed nearly 1,200 people in 2016.

The article indicates about 300 executions in China per year for recent years.

But no one seems to know. Someone else said that it came into the thousands...

 

[martybegan]

it's mostly because we only execute people for murder, and usually only really really bad ones, premeditated, when done in the commission of another crime, multiple (either spree or serial) or for killing cops.

It has less to do with economic or political might and more to do with poor people just tend to murder more than rich ones. Correlation if not causation.

Well, the point being that in China they will execute when people commit bad crimes to do with money. The US doesn't. Why not? Why do the politicians choose crimes that they generally don't do? Er... well... because... they're looking after their own.

Or maybe the ultimate punishment should be reserved for the ultimate crime. We used to execute people for non-murders, cattle rustling, insurrection, etc, but besides military justice, our system reserves capital punishment only for the crime of murder.

Well, the ultimate crime is what? Just murder? Why is murder worse than stealing millions of pounds from people?

The point is that a country like America has capital punishment, but then criticizes China for using capital punishment. It's absurd.

No it isn't. Our system spends on average a decade making sure the person to be executed did the crime.

How does that respond to what I said? Either I'm not getting your twist on this, or you're not getting mine.

you are trying to compare our Death Penalty and China's with regards to class, and the fact they they execute people for financial crimes, something which by your posting I assume you support.

And the response is that China uses capital punishment more for political reasons than for criminal reasons. Our is used to execute murderers, theirs is more "pour encouragment les autres"

 

[frigidweirdo]

Well, the point being that in China they will execute when people commit bad crimes to do with money. The US doesn't. Why not? Why do the politicians choose crimes that they generally don't do? Er... well... because... they're looking after their own.

Or maybe the ultimate punishment should be reserved for the ultimate crime. We used to execute people for non-murders, cattle rustling, insurrection, etc, but besides military justice, our system reserves capital punishment only for the crime of murder.

Well, the ultimate crime is what? Just murder? Why is murder worse than stealing millions of pounds from people?

The point is that a country like America has capital punishment, but then criticizes China for using capital punishment. It's absurd.

No it isn't. Our system spends on average a decade making sure the person to be executed did the crime.

How does that respond to what I said? Either I'm not getting your twist on this, or you're not getting mine.

you are trying to compare our Death Penalty and China's with regards to class, and the fact they they execute people for financial crimes, something which by your posting I assume you support.

And the response is that China uses capital punishment more for political reasons than for criminal reasons. Our is used to execute murderers, theirs is more "pour encouragment les autres"

Well, you assume wrong.

Also I'm not sure they use it for political purposes. They might be willing to execute some politicians, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's for political purposes. Do you have any evidence to back up your claim about it being political?