Amnesty demands Israel 'immediately' lift Gaza blockade

Interesting how you left out the words , Larry Derfner asserted that before you copy pasted your first paragraph lol ! All you did was give some guys opinion.

Nice fail Jos ;)

Interesting how you left out..In a 2009 opinion column he writes for The Jerusalem Post,
NGO Monitor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


So ??
some guys opinion, that gets published in The Jerusalem Post
where have your opinions been published, other than a rest-room wall?
 
I've tried to do some research into the funding of NGO but it is a labrynthian maze of contradictions. It appears that over 90% of their funds come from one organization (to the tune of 8 million over the last 4 years) that seems to fold, re-incorporate and change it's name very year. Since financial records only go back 4 years, here are the different names this one, apparently non proft..heheh, org has had.

Center for Jewish Communication Studies
American Friends of NGO
Research + Evaluation = Promoting Organizational Responsibility and Transparency, Inc.
Report.org

I challenge anyone to find ANY substantial information on google about ANY of these orgs. They are ghosts, front operations for right wing, zionist and likud propaganda and ONLY THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.

How does one donate 8 million dollars to ONE media organization and yet doesn't have ANY FOOTPRINT on the worldwide web?

They get funds from the israeli Government?
 
Israel is only at peace with Jordan and Egypt. Not with the other countries specifically not with Gaza. Therefore the blockade is legal. How difficult is it for you lot to understand. Israel has to continue the legal blockade to safeguard Israel's interests. Without the blockade it would be in serious trouble. Remember, there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza. The Red Cross say so and Hamas says so. Nobody is starving and they get what they need plus more.
Funny how you can't provide any evidence to back up your bullshit claims?

I, on the other hand, don't have that problem, because I, can back up what I say...

Why don't you explain how the blockade is "not" collective punishment?

Furthermore...
Anyone supporting this bullshit is just pure evil.


Save the Children and Medical Aid for Palestinians released a report this week on the impact of the blockade on the health of children in Gaza. “Gaza’s only fresh water source is now too dangerous to drink and is contaminated with fertiliser and human waste,” the agencies warn, noting that Gaza is one of the most densely populated ares in the world, with more than 4,500 people per square kilometer).

A press release accompanying the report adds:

Since the blockade started, the number of children under three being treated for watery diarrhoea has doubled. High levels of nitrate – found in faeces and fertiliser – is also linked to some cancers and is a massive risk to pregnant women.

Gaza’s sewage system is also completely broken, much of it destroyed during Operation Cast Lead and treatment plants are overloaded or lack fuel. Open cesspits sit right next to family homes and in just the first two months of this year, three children drowned in open sewers.​
BTW, it is a war crime to target civilian infrastructure.

Fuck every one of you assholes who defend this blockade.

You're nothing but skumbag pieces of shit!

Straight out of Electronic Intifada and Shamnesty International. :cuckoo:

The blockade on Gaza is legal.
In the September 2011 Palmer Report, the UN investigative committee for the 2010 Flotilla to Gaza said that the Israel's naval blockade of Gaza is legal under international law.

Gaza's universities are doing fine. I think you lot read the wrong blogs. :lol:

The condition of water in Gaza has nothing to do with Israel. If Gaza cannot spend its aid on essential facilities and prefers to spend it on weapons that is not Israel's concern. Israel evacuated the Jews from Gaza in 2005 and Gaza has had plenty of opportunities to make the area thrive but instead prefers its people to live and die in squalor. Shame on Hamas to do that to its people.

The Palmer Report was specifically designed to be a scam.
 
Funny how you can't provide any evidence to back up your bullshit claims?

I, on the other hand, don't have that problem, because I, can back up what I say...

Why don't you explain how the blockade is "not" collective punishment?

Furthermore...
Anyone supporting this bullshit is just pure evil.


BTW, it is a war crime to target civilian infrastructure.

Fuck every one of you assholes who defend this blockade.

You're nothing but skumbag pieces of shit!

Straight out of Electronic Intifada and Shamnesty International. :cuckoo:

The blockade on Gaza is legal.
In the September 2011 Palmer Report, the UN investigative committee for the 2010 Flotilla to Gaza said that the Israel's naval blockade of Gaza is legal under international law.

Gaza's universities are doing fine. I think you lot read the wrong blogs. :lol:

The condition of water in Gaza has nothing to do with Israel. If Gaza cannot spend its aid on essential facilities and prefers to spend it on weapons that is not Israel's concern. Israel evacuated the Jews from Gaza in 2005 and Gaza has had plenty of opportunities to make the area thrive but instead prefers its people to live and die in squalor. Shame on Hamas to do that to its people.

The Palmer Report was specifically designed to be a scam.

:lol: You are certainly entertaining us today.
 
Straight out of Electronic Intifada and Shamnesty International. :cuckoo:

The blockade on Gaza is legal.
In the September 2011 Palmer Report, the UN investigative committee for the 2010 Flotilla to Gaza said that the Israel's naval blockade of Gaza is legal under international law.

Gaza's universities are doing fine. I think you lot read the wrong blogs. :lol:

The condition of water in Gaza has nothing to do with Israel. If Gaza cannot spend its aid on essential facilities and prefers to spend it on weapons that is not Israel's concern. Israel evacuated the Jews from Gaza in 2005 and Gaza has had plenty of opportunities to make the area thrive but instead prefers its people to live and die in squalor. Shame on Hamas to do that to its people.

The Palmer Report was specifically designed to be a scam.

:lol: You are certainly entertaining us today.

From a respected jewish source,,,

Palmer report’s absurd contention that Israel is not punishing Gaza’s civilian population renders it useless

Palmer report?s absurd contention that Israel is not punishing Gaza?s civilian population renders it useless | Mondoweiss
 
Mondoweiss HAHAHAHAHAHA !! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks Alfie, for once again proving that you get your information from extremely biased pro - Palestinian sources.
 
Funny how you can't provide any evidence to back up your bullshit claims?

I, on the other hand, don't have that problem, because I, can back up what I say...

Why don't you explain how the blockade is "not" collective punishment?

Furthermore...
Anyone supporting this bullshit is just pure evil.


BTW, it is a war crime to target civilian infrastructure.

Fuck every one of you assholes who defend this blockade.

You're nothing but skumbag pieces of shit!

Straight out of Electronic Intifada and Shamnesty International. :cuckoo:

The blockade on Gaza is legal.
In the September 2011 Palmer Report, the UN investigative committee for the 2010 Flotilla to Gaza said that the Israel's naval blockade of Gaza is legal under international law.

Gaza's universities are doing fine. I think you lot read the wrong blogs. :lol:

The condition of water in Gaza has nothing to do with Israel. If Gaza cannot spend its aid on essential facilities and prefers to spend it on weapons that is not Israel's concern. Israel evacuated the Jews from Gaza in 2005 and Gaza has had plenty of opportunities to make the area thrive but instead prefers its people to live and die in squalor. Shame on Hamas to do that to its people.

The Palmer Report was specifically designed to be a scam.

Is that your opinion or a fact?
 
Is that your opinion or a fact?
That's a fact.

The Palmer Report was not commissioned to determine the legality of the blockade. It was commissioned to review the state of relations between Israel and Turkey. It had no international lawyers or experts on maritime law on it's panel. It did, however, have former Columbian President Alvaro Uribe, who is accused of widespread human rights violations during his time as President. But more relevant to this "Panel", is the fact that Israel was the biggest weapons supplier to Columbia, while he was President, which makes his inclusion on this "Panel", a conflict of interest. Right off the bat, that's some panel, isn't it?

In addition to the lack of any credited professionals in international law and the obvious conflict of interest of one of its members, the panel did not interview any witnesses from the Mavi Mamara, nor did it see any exhibits. It based all of it's findings on information provided by Israeli and Turkish delegations. Also, the "Panel" admits repeatedly, they are not a court, but a very well paid op-ed.

The report repeatedly makes it clear that the Panel was not a court. The result is effectively an opinion of the leadership, with the qualified partisan support from their colleagues.
It used as Israel's argument, a report from the Turkel Commission, which completely ignored a UNHRC FFM report, which was commissioned to review the legality of the blockade, did have many experts on international and maritime law, was much more in-depth and comprehensive than the Palmer Report and came to the opposite conclusion that the blockade is, in fact, illegal.

Not only did the UNHRC FFM commission find the blockade illegal, it found it to be a crime against humanity, due to the collective punishment of the entire population of Gaza.

Israel’s summary was based on the Turkel Commission’s report for which the Panel notes that original material was not provided. It also observes that Turkel has completely ignored the report of the UNHRC FFM (to which it formed an opposing opinion on the legality of the blockade). Of further concern is the Panel’s careless reading of Turkel. In para. 47 (a) it refers to “statements by various United Nations organizations” supporting Turkel’s position that the conflict between Israel and the Gaza Strip is an “international armed conflict”. In fact Turkel only cites the one UN report written by Special Rapporteur John Dugard in which the author declares that the Gaza Strip remains occupied territory.

The Panel seems unaware that much of the Turkel report cannot be taken at face value. Thus it has copied that Israel “provides humanitarian aid in those areas that human rights organizations identify as a source of concern” (para. 47 (f)) when in fact members of the Commission agreed with Gisha’s representative Tamar Feldman on 13 October 2010 that Israel does not supply any humanitarian goods to the Palestinians. Turkel’s assertion, again repeated by the Panel, that no humanitarian supplies were found on the remaining vessels is also false.
In regards to the naval blockade itself, it tells the lie the blockade has been in place since 1967, when in fact, it started in 2008, to punish Gazans for electing Hamas.


The Naval Blockade

In para.70 it erroneously states that “the land crossings policy has been in place since long before the naval blockade was instituted” when in fact Ms Feldman explained to Turkel that all maritime commercial traffic to Gaza had been prohibited by varying procedures since the occupation began in 1967. This gives the lie to the Panel’s statement later in the paragraph that “the naval blockade as a distinct legal measure was imposed primarily to enable a legally sound basis for Israel to exert control over ships attempting to reach Gaza with weapons and related goods.” The blockade was only imposed after the Free Gaza Movement began to sail regularly to Gaza during 2008 in defiance of Israeli restrictions. It was to prevent this humanitarian traffic that Israel applied the blockade which the UNHRC FFM has since declared to be illegal. It follows that the Panel’s reasoning in para.77 that the naval blockade was not imposed to punish the people of Gaza for the election of Hamas is unconvincing.
And in reference to continuing the blockade because of the rocket attacks, it doesn't consider the affect the blockade is having on Gaza residents...
In supporting its position on Israel’s need to defend itself by imposing the blockade, the Panel make several references to the firing of rockets in Gaza. Yet these attacks do not occur in a vacuum.

Palestinian casualties occur every week as a result of the occupation. For example in the week 14-20 April 2011 the Palestine Center for Human Rights recorded that one man died of wounds sustained the previous week when two artillery shells were fired into the Gaza Strip; windows were broken in a primary school when a warplane fired a missile onto neighboring training site; gunboats directed shells and intensive fire at Palestinian fishing boats working well within the limits of recognized Palestinian territorial waters; farmers were fired at near the Israeli border. At the same time there was a renewal of the cooking gas crisis due to a unilaterally imposed crossing closure; the ban on all construction materials entering Gaza continued in force; while for 44 months prior to April 2011 the 710 Palestinian prisoners from Gaza who are detained (illegally) in Israeli jails have been denied their visitation rights without any justification.

There is no excuse and no valid purpose for isolating Palestinian terror attacks from the context of the oppression suffered by Palestinians under the on-going Israeli occupation.
To claim the blockade doesn't affect the quality of life in Gaza, is just psycho-babble from Israeli kiss-asses, who have no soul and are completely void of any sense of humanity whatsoever.

To point to this report as proof the blockade is legal, is just ludicrous.
 
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Mondoweiss HAHAHAHAHAHA !! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks Alfie, for once again proving that you get your information from extremely biased pro - Palestinian sources.
Your personal opinion of a particular website, has absolutely nothing to do with the truth of falsehood of a claim, made from it.
 
Is that your opinion or a fact?
That's a fact.

The Palmer Report was not commissioned to determine the legality of the blockade. It was commissioned to review the state of relations between Israel and Turkey. It had no international lawyers or experts on maritime law on it's panel. It did, however, have former Columbian President Alvaro Uribe, who is accused of widespread human rights violations during his time as President. But more relevant to this "Panel", is the fact that Israel was the biggest weapons supplier to Columbia, while he was President, which makes his inclusion on this "Panel", a conflict of interest. Right off the bat, that's some panel, isn't it?

In addition to the lack of any credited professionals in international law and the obvious conflict of interest of one of its members, the panel did not interview any witnesses from the Mavi Mamara, nor did it see any exhibits. It based all of it's findings on information provided by Israeli and Turkish delegations. Also, the "Panel" admits repeatedly, they are not a court, but a very well paid op-ed.

The report repeatedly makes it clear that the Panel was not a court. The result is effectively an opinion of the leadership, with the qualified partisan support from their colleagues.
It used as Israel's argument, a report from the Turkel Commission, which completely ignored a UNHRC FFM report, which was commissioned to review the legality of the blockade, did have many experts on international and maritime law, was much more in-depth and comprehensive than the Palmer Report and came to the opposite conclusion that the blockade is, in fact, illegal.

Not only did the UNHRC FFM commission find the blockade illegal, it found it to be a crime against humanity, due to the collective punishment of the entire population of Gaza.

In regards to the naval blockade itself, it tells the lie the blockade has been in place since 1967, when in fact, it started in 2008, to punish Gazans for electing Hamas.


The Naval Blockade

In para.70 it erroneously states that “the land crossings policy has been in place since long before the naval blockade was instituted” when in fact Ms Feldman explained to Turkel that all maritime commercial traffic to Gaza had been prohibited by varying procedures since the occupation began in 1967. This gives the lie to the Panel’s statement later in the paragraph that “the naval blockade as a distinct legal measure was imposed primarily to enable a legally sound basis for Israel to exert control over ships attempting to reach Gaza with weapons and related goods.” The blockade was only imposed after the Free Gaza Movement began to sail regularly to Gaza during 2008 in defiance of Israeli restrictions. It was to prevent this humanitarian traffic that Israel applied the blockade which the UNHRC FFM has since declared to be illegal. It follows that the Panel’s reasoning in para.77 that the naval blockade was not imposed to punish the people of Gaza for the election of Hamas is unconvincing.
And in reference to continuing the blockade because of the rocket attacks, it doesn't consider the affect the blockade is having on Gaza residents...
In supporting its position on Israel’s need to defend itself by imposing the blockade, the Panel make several references to the firing of rockets in Gaza. Yet these attacks do not occur in a vacuum.

Palestinian casualties occur every week as a result of the occupation. For example in the week 14-20 April 2011 the Palestine Center for Human Rights recorded that one man died of wounds sustained the previous week when two artillery shells were fired into the Gaza Strip; windows were broken in a primary school when a warplane fired a missile onto neighboring training site; gunboats directed shells and intensive fire at Palestinian fishing boats working well within the limits of recognized Palestinian territorial waters; farmers were fired at near the Israeli border. At the same time there was a renewal of the cooking gas crisis due to a unilaterally imposed crossing closure; the ban on all construction materials entering Gaza continued in force; while for 44 months prior to April 2011 the 710 Palestinian prisoners from Gaza who are detained (illegally) in Israeli jails have been denied their visitation rights without any justification.

There is no excuse and no valid purpose for isolating Palestinian terror attacks from the context of the oppression suffered by Palestinians under the on-going Israeli occupation.
To claim the blockade doesn't affect the quality of life in Gaza, is just psycho-babble from Israeli kiss-asses, who have no soul and are completely void of any sense of humanity whatsoever.

To point to this report as proof the blockade is legal, is just ludicrous.


Uhh, I never said otherwise about the Palmer report, but it's not a SCAM, like Tinmore said.
But then again, I'm not surprised that something in which doesn't agree with your opinion or Tinmores, meaning something that is not pro - Palestinian, is seen as a scam
 
Then that leads us to believe the boat purposely tried to go out of the fishing zone limit purely for proparganda and Pallywood purposes. Typical Gazan mentality. Always shooting themselves in the foot. :lol: Not the brightest tools in the box are they?
That's just conjecture on your part, with no evidence to back it up.

Even if you did have evidence, Israel has no jurisdiction in international waters and no business restricting Gazan fishing.

And if you want to know the real reason the Israeli's restrict Gazan territorial waters to 3 miles, it's because there is an oil reserve about 4 miles out, that Israel wants.
 
Uhh, I never said otherwise about the Palmer report, but it's not a SCAM, like Tinmore said.
But then again, I'm not surprised that something in which doesn't agree with your opinion or Tinmores, meaning something that is not pro - Palestinian, is seen as a scam
I think I've sufficiently explained the problems with that report, that goes beyond mere opinion.
 
Straight out of Electronic Intifada and Shamnesty International. :cuckoo:

The blockade on Gaza is legal.
In the September 2011 Palmer Report, the UN investigative committee for the 2010 Flotilla to Gaza said that the Israel's naval blockade of Gaza is legal under international law.

Gaza's universities are doing fine. I think you lot read the wrong blogs. :lol:

The condition of water in Gaza has nothing to do with Israel. If Gaza cannot spend its aid on essential facilities and prefers to spend it on weapons that is not Israel's concern. Israel evacuated the Jews from Gaza in 2005 and Gaza has had plenty of opportunities to make the area thrive but instead prefers its people to live and die in squalor. Shame on Hamas to do that to its people.
Twice I've torn your precious Palmer Report to shreds, yet you keep pointing to it, which is just lunacy.

And Gazans can't spend it's aid on essential facilities, because Israel will not permit them to enter the area.
 

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