America's Last Chance: (Ron Paul)?

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    A former member of Ronald Reagan's administration and editor of the Wall Street Journal believes you are out of your minds if you think Dr.Paul's rhetoric against the welfare state is more important than his defense of liberty:

    "America has one last chance, and it is a very slim one. Americans can elect Ron Paul President, or they can descend into tyranny.

    "Why is Ron Paul America’s last chance?

    "Because he is the only candidate who is not owned lock, stock, and barrel by the military-security complex, Wall Street, and the Israel Lobby.

    "All of the others, including President Obama, are owned by exactly the same interest groups.

    "There are no differences between them. Every candidate except Ron Paul stands for war and a police state, and all have demonstrated their complete and total subservience to Israel."

    Hyperbole, election year hysteria, or prophecy, what's your call?

    America’s Last Chance » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
     
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    So refreshing to see an unbiased opinion on the good Dr. Paul.
     
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    Yes he probably is. But that's probably why he can't be allowed to win. The Global Elite have their plans and Ron Paul just doesn't tow the party-line. Virtually impossible for him to win. It is very sad but it is what it is.
     
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    Well I disagree with the editorial. If Ron Paul gets in the white house there is plenty that he can do other then 'speak at a public forum'. The power of the veto will be very strong, and if I were him I would use it fast and hard. Let the congress and the senate address the issues this nation faces, and when once again they are unable to solve even the simple problems then it is time for us the people to remove this corrupt congress.

    There is plenty that Ron Paul will be able to do, and he will have the full backing and support of the people.
     
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    It is also refreshing to read Roberts's opinion on why Paul can not be elected, namely the fact that not enough voting Americans understand the "war on terror" has been used to create a police state and not to make Americans safe from terror.

    "One more presidential term with no habeas corpus and no due process for US citizens and with torture and assassination of US citizens by their own government, and it will be too late."

    Maybe it already is?

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    And even if by some democratic miracle Dr.Paul wakes up in the White House, he will find it very hard to lead since both major parties will conspire to prevent him from forming a government that would support his policies.

    "Appointments to cabinet secretaries and assistant secretaries that would support his policies could not be confirmed by the US Senate. President Paul would have to appoint whomever the Senate would confirm in order to form a government. The Senate’s appointees would undermine his policies.

    "What a President Ron Paul could do, assuming Congress, controlled by powerful private interest groups, did not impeach him on trumped up charges, would be to use whatever forums that might be permitted him to explain to the public, judges, and law schools that the danger from terrorists is miniscule compared to the danger from a government unaccountable to law and the Constitution."

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    Yeah,it can't happen. And that's very sad. The Global Elitist assholes run the show in the end. Bilderberg Group,Council on Foreign Relations,Trilateral Commission,and others have a plan. And no one will be allowed to get in their way. Unfortunately,a very bleak future lies ahead for our Nation. They have to tear it all down in order to rebuild it in their image.
     
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    Republicans AND Democrats have controlled Washington DC since 1860.
    Any legitimate threat to their hegemony, like Ron Paul, will face obstructionism beyond any we've ever witnessed before.
    OTOH, if hundreds of incumbent Republicans AND Democrats are FLUSHED from DC at the same time an outsider moves into the White House, Change and Hope won't be far behind.

    Millions of US voters will be using ballots next November containing multiple third party candidates.
    It's just as easy to vote Green or Libertarian as it is to vote Republican or Democrat.

    Additional millions of eligible voters who don't usually see anything worth voting for might get involved in a 21st Century version of "throw ALL the bums out."

    The same technology that filled Tahrir Square and Zuccotti Park can be used to convince millions of voters a "choice" between Republican OR Democrat is no choice at all.
     
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    It's pretty much an article of faith on the left that JFK was the last president to oppose the forces you mentioned. The big advantage a Ron Paul would have today is the tool we're communicating with right this minute.

    President Paul could have a cyber insurance policy beyond Julian Assange's wildest imagination.
    Who killed the Kennedy brothers?
    Who ordered the attack on the USS Liberty?
    State secrets that could spell the end of this state.

    However, I'm afraid you're correct.
    Our 1% have anointed Obama and Romney.
    The elites have spoken.
     
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    There is no ‘welfare state,’ and all Americans currently have the opportunity to become self-sufficient.

    Paul is as ignorant as he is naïve.
     

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