American Muslim medical student: "Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize for Terrorism"

[emilynghiem]

Dear Omar:
God revealed His will to the angels, saying: "I shall be with you. Give courage to the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers." (Sura 8, Verse 12)
"When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield strike off their heads." (Sura 47, Verse 4)
Here are the most common verses taken out of context that people misinterpret as justifying killing innocent people as infidels.
Instead of making a 10,000 bet, can I help you raise 10,000 to donate to the first team of Christian Muslim and Jewish members who writes up an explanation and agreement of how all three are called to live in peace under One God under scriptural authority fulfilled in Christ Jesus which means Restorative Justice that brings univeral peace to humanity.
I will ask my friends Olivia Reiner in Houston (who is friends with Peter Loft also of the Jewish/Christian community) and Mustafaa Caroll of CAIR if we can form teams and write up a resolution on a unifying interpretation of Christianity, Islam the Bible and also Judaism. Thank you. Peace and God Bless.

 

[Freewill]

5. I think you right on this. The democrats never apologized for Slavery why should you apologize for violence caused in the name of your religion? Wouldn't seem fair.

 

[irosie91]

Dear Omar:
God revealed His will to the angels, saying: "I shall be with you. Give courage to the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers." (Sura 8, Verse 12)
"When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield strike off their heads." (Sura 47, Verse 4)
Here are the most common verses taken out of context that people misinterpret as justifying killing innocent people as infidels.
Instead of making a 10,000 bet, can I help you raise 10,000 to donate to the first team of Christian Muslim and Jewish members who writes up an explanation and agreement of how all three are called to live in peace under One God under scriptural authority fulfilled in Christ Jesus which means Restorative Justice that brings univeral peace to humanity.
I will ask my friends Olivia Reiner in Houston (who is friends with Peter Loft also of the Jewish/Christian community) and Mustafaa Caroll of CAIR if we can form teams and write up a resolution on a unifying interpretation of Christianity, Islam the Bible and also Judaism. Thank you. Peace and God Bless.

ALL People have to believe in YOUR version of "god" ? that's sick

 

[pismoe]

I cut out the intro that wasn't necessary for me anyway, and jumped to the part where this author does a good job of REPRESENTING HIMSELF. If we all did that, spoke for ourselves, and quit projecting images and associations in our minds by group affiliation, we'd cut through the barriers of bigotry whether it's race, religion, political affiliation or nationality that we are reacting to. We all do this.

If anything, I think people owe an apology to each other for the things we've each done that damaged relations and faith of other people. So I will apologize and say I'm sorry I haven't done enough to bring world peace yet. But if we all do our part, and we forgive each other when we fail, we can correct 98% of the causes of problems in advance by being more transparent and open to address these faults. Instead of shutting down relations and communication by the politics and blame game that doesn't solve the problems on all sides. Maybe there will always be the 2% we can't help, can't detect in advance or see coming in time. But looking at most problems, very few come out of the blue with no warning signs at all of the causes behind them. As long as there is a pattern of cause and effect, there is a way to reduce the negative outcomes by applying science and reason to identify and correct the factors that go astray.

I am sorry for terrorism. I am sorry for racism and political bullying. I do what I can, but it's never enough so I do apologize that it has caused so much suffering, and the anger it causes, the loss of faith is partially what motivates the ill will, retribution and reckless seizure and abuse of power by terrorists and other oppressors, abusers and bullies. We have to undo all those layers to get rid of the negative fuel to these fires. We all need healing, and I am sorry the healing, corrections, and prevention aren't happening fast enough.

I have the choice to apologize. Unlike others who are pressured to and have a whole other dynamic to answer to, I don't have that on me. I was never forced or made to feel guilty or punished/judged if I didn't accept Christianity or some other religion. I have always had a free choice to look into these situations, and CHOOSE to understand and accept the parts that made sense to me.

Unlike the Muslims, Nobody is bullying forcing or expecting me to apologize.
So given the freedom I have to choose to accept my part of the responsibility,
yes, I do believe it is up to all of us in society to prevent fear ill will and unforgiven conflicts
from escalating into repeat abuse, oppression, bullying, rights violations, violence, war and crime.

I apologize for my part in contributing to the mess the world is in right now
by either omission, negligence, or inciting more fear and ill will
even when I mean to foster forgiveness, understanding and new insights into solutions.

Here's the student's statement on why he isn't apologizing for terrorism as a Muslim American:
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I am a proud American, raised in Texas. I’m a college student. I’m a humanitarian. I’m an aspiring physician. I’m someone who hopes to revolutionize access to medicine and healthcare in the United States and in war-torn countries across the world. I also am a M-u-s-l-i-m, one of over 1.6 billion who are blamed whenever an act of terrorism occurs as if we are nothing more than this 6-letter word hijacked by those who wrongly use our religion to justify their heinous crimes.

As a Muslim American who continually strives to do everything I can for the betterment of my community and this nation, I am tired of being asked to apologize and condemn terrorism that I have absolutely nothing to do with.

Here Are Five Reasons Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize for Terrorism:

1) It’s ridiculous to ask us to apologize.
As a practicing Muslim, I know that my religion teaches peace. I am so certain of this fact that I will award anyone $10,000 if they can find me a verse in the Quran that says it’s ok to kill innocent people or to commit acts of terror. This is an open offer that will never expire.

I also know that Muslims, as a religious group, are not terrorists. I have factually proved this. I also have factually proved that you are more likely to be struck by lightening, crushed to death by a couch, or killed by a toddler, than to be killed by a Muslim.

This being said, why should I have to apologize for a violence that I have no connection to? A violence my religion blatantly stands against.

Ask yourself: Should car manufacturers have to apologize when drunk drivers kill people using their vehicles? Should you be required to apologize to the police if your sibling gets a speeding ticket because you share the same last name? Should every single gun owner in America have to apologize whenever someone is killed by a firearm? Should weathermen have to apologize for cloudy days? Should pharmacists have to apologize for your allergies? Should I have to apologize for the typos of another writer?

Unless you can find that $10,000 verse or unless you blatantly hear a Muslim explicitly supporting terrorism, please understand that asking us, both individually and collectively, to apologize for terrorism would be just as ridiculous as the questions above.

2) It should be obvious by now that Muslims condemn terrorism.
By now, it should be very clear that Muslims condemn terrorism. All it takes is a simple Google search of any terrorist attack to find the plethora of Muslims publicly condemning it. Try it out. For example, here are over 40 examples of Muslims condemning the Charlie Hebdo attacks. And here is an example of how Muslims all across the world condemned the Paris attacks.

Muslims condemn terrorism, we always have. This is a fact. And just as I shouldn’t have to reassure you each morning that the sky is still blue, Muslims should not have to reassure you that we still condemn terrorism every single time a terrorist attack occurs.

And frankly, if you don’t already believe that Muslims condemn terrorism by now, then no apology or repeated broken-record condemnation from any Muslim or Muslim organization will help cure your intolerant hatred.

3) Muslims are at the very forefront of combating terrorism.
The only thing more ridiculous than asking people to apologize for something they have no connection to is to make people apologize for something they are working so hard to combat.

Muslims want to defeat terrorism just as much as any other American, if not more. This is why we have Muslim women like Niloofar Rahmani and Kubra Khademi who are at the very frontlines fighting terrorists. This is why millions of Muslim youth are taking a stand against ISIS. This is why tons of Muslim groups and scholars repeatedly issue statements condemning ISIS, many even being beheaded by ISIS for doing so.

This is why more than 120 Muslim scholars from around the world joined together to write an open letter to ISIS, denouncing them as un-Islamic by using Islamic terms. This is why Muslims are being killed by ISIS for publicly opposing this terrorist group’s persecution of Christians.

For the same reasons that firemen don’t apologize for fires and doctors don’t apologize for heart disease, Muslims should not be expected or asked to apologize for something they are working so hard to combat.

4) Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism.
According to the Counter Terrorism Center at the United States Military Academy at West Point, Al-Qaeda kills over seven times more Muslims than non-Muslims.According to the UN, Muslims are the largest victims of ISIS. According to the State Department, Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism in general. No matter where you look, you will find that the strongest association between Muslims and terrorism is one in which Muslims are victims of it.

There is a sad irony in how Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism yet also receive the most hatred for it. Just as it would be wrong to blame African Americans for slavery, starving children for world hunger, and toddlers for school shootings, it is equally wrong to blame Muslims for terrorism when we are always the victims of it.

Want me to call the leader of ISIS and tell him to stop committing terror? Give me his contact information; I’d be happy to. Any Muslim would. But just know that the conversation would begin with us, ISIS’s largest victims, telling him to stop hijacking our religion to justify killing Muslims who actually follow it.

5) If we have to apologize for terrorism, then so should everyone else.
This last point is especially important. Why are Muslims the only group that are required to apologize for and condemn the actions of criminals that associate with their group?

To put things into perspective, ask yourself: Why aren’t all white males asked to apologize for the slavery that white males endorsed less than two centuries ago? The slavery in which one third of slaves were Muslims. Why aren’t all Buddhists asked to apologize for the radical Buddhist monks in Mynammar that are violently attacking Muslims? Why aren’t all policemen asked to apologize for the racist cops that are dropping the bodies of unarmed blacks like leaves in the autumn?

You must understand that just as you are detached from the heinous crimes mentioned above, I am just as detached from the terrorism that so many keep trying to link me with for no other reason than me being a Muslim.

You must understand that by asking me whether I condemn terrorism, you are questioning my humanity.

Follow Omar Alnatour on Twitter: www.twitter.com/WeTeachLifeSir_

1. Is that a challenge to prove to your satisfaction that the verses contain violence? Cause if it is then true that isn't going to happen. So I will answer this one in this post. Now it will be up to you to pick the worse offenders and tell me why they are not violent.

Quran The Quran's Verses of Violence
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle).

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Meccaafter the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions."This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."


Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." How does the Quran define a true believer?

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. [Note: This parable along with verse58:22 is a major reason that honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.12).]

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost." Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad. The wounded are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost(Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His cause" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "rows" or "battle array," meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9), which defines the "cause": "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of'Adn- Eternity ['Adn(Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see verse 9). It uses the Arabic root for the word Jihad.

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such. Other verses calling Muslims to Jihad can be found here at AnsweringIslam.org

----------------------------------------------------I wonder what or how the boards muslim apologists like 'whats her name' and 'whats his name' explain these verses , Thanks for the verses and info Freewill !!

 

[dannyboys]

I don't feel the need to apologize for anything I didn't do, and if my ancestors did something bad, that's between them and their God.

I didn't do any of that either. I will acknowledge that the political system and free speech we have in America was abused to cause such division and distraction that "allowed" 9/11 to happen, right under our noses. Indirectly I am among those who "didn't do enough to prevent 9/11 from happening" as well as all the aftermath and escalation, where the focus on terrorism became central.

If I at least admit that I didn't prevent it either, that makes me no better than anyone else who is equal in that sense!

If we all admit that none of us did enough to stop it, at least we are on equal footing on that level.
Let's start there, where we are standing on equal ground.

Where none of us has done enough to stop 9/11 and terrorism from happening.
When we communicate it is important to start from a safe place of equal respect and standing.

NEWS FLASH!
All that needed to happen to prevent 911 was to liquidate to terrorists who were 100% responsible for 911 BEFORE they committed the atrocity against innocent men women and children.
"Equal respect"? You are fucking delusional.

dannyboys I am talking about LONGTERM prevention.

Not just stopping a robber at your door by using a gun,
but detecting treating and curing criminal illness wherever it strikes so we don't wait for confrontations to occur to address them.

If you look at diseases that used to be treated by cutting people off or letting them die,
how many of these situations changed when we developed the cure so there was no fear involved in getting diagnosed and treated!

The day we start treating criminal illness, abuse and addiction as diseases
with a CAUSE and CURE we will see a similar change.

I already know people who have mastered and teach the process of diagnosis and cure.
So it's a matter of time before society is ready for applying that globally where it becomes mainstream.

Instead of living in fear of TB and leprosy, these are practically wiped out.
NOT BY KILLING OFF the people who HAVE this sickness,
but addressing the cause of the sickness so the people don't fall victim and don't harm other people either.

Fuck you and your delusions!
Muslims have had fucking CENTURIES! to learn to live peacefully with their neighbors. That has NEVER happened. Never will.
Now they have enclaves throughout Europe and in NA. They have NEVER been remotely interested in 'assimilating'. They think all Westerners' are filthy pigs. They are the gold star winners of the worst forms of misogyny. They are mainly illiterate fucking parasites sucking off the 'Westerner's' teat while spitting on the Westerner. Their mosques are 'terrorist central'.
The only way 'young muslim men' make any money is by selling drugs.
I dare you to go into Dearborn and stand on any fucking corner and spew your delusions.
Where would you like your possessions sent?

 

[irosie91]

I cut out the intro that wasn't necessary for me anyway, and jumped to the part where this author does a good job of REPRESENTING HIMSELF. If we all did that, spoke for ourselves, and quit projecting images and associations in our minds by group affiliation, we'd cut through the barriers of bigotry whether it's race, religion, political affiliation or nationality that we are reacting to. We all do this.

If anything, I think people owe an apology to each other for the things we've each done that damaged relations and faith of other people. So I will apologize and say I'm sorry I haven't done enough to bring world peace yet. But if we all do our part, and we forgive each other when we fail, we can correct 98% of the causes of problems in advance by being more transparent and open to address these faults. Instead of shutting down relations and communication by the politics and blame game that doesn't solve the problems on all sides. Maybe there will always be the 2% we can't help, can't detect in advance or see coming in time. But looking at most problems, very few come out of the blue with no warning signs at all of the causes behind them. As long as there is a pattern of cause and effect, there is a way to reduce the negative outcomes by applying science and reason to identify and correct the factors that go astray.

I am sorry for terrorism. I am sorry for racism and political bullying. I do what I can, but it's never enough so I do apologize that it has caused so much suffering, and the anger it causes, the loss of faith is partially what motivates the ill will, retribution and reckless seizure and abuse of power by terrorists and other oppressors, abusers and bullies. We have to undo all those layers to get rid of the negative fuel to these fires. We all need healing, and I am sorry the healing, corrections, and prevention aren't happening fast enough.

I have the choice to apologize. Unlike others who are pressured to and have a whole other dynamic to answer to, I don't have that on me. I was never forced or made to feel guilty or punished/judged if I didn't accept Christianity or some other religion. I have always had a free choice to look into these situations, and CHOOSE to understand and accept the parts that made sense to me.

Unlike the Muslims, Nobody is bullying forcing or expecting me to apologize.
So given the freedom I have to choose to accept my part of the responsibility,
yes, I do believe it is up to all of us in society to prevent fear ill will and unforgiven conflicts
from escalating into repeat abuse, oppression, bullying, rights violations, violence, war and crime.

I apologize for my part in contributing to the mess the world is in right now
by either omission, negligence, or inciting more fear and ill will
even when I mean to foster forgiveness, understanding and new insights into solutions.

Here's the student's statement on why he isn't apologizing for terrorism as a Muslim American:
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I am a proud American, raised in Texas. I’m a college student. I’m a humanitarian. I’m an aspiring physician. I’m someone who hopes to revolutionize access to medicine and healthcare in the United States and in war-torn countries across the world. I also am a M-u-s-l-i-m, one of over 1.6 billion who are blamed whenever an act of terrorism occurs as if we are nothing more than this 6-letter word hijacked by those who wrongly use our religion to justify their heinous crimes.

As a Muslim American who continually strives to do everything I can for the betterment of my community and this nation, I am tired of being asked to apologize and condemn terrorism that I have absolutely nothing to do with.

Here Are Five Reasons Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize for Terrorism:

1) It’s ridiculous to ask us to apologize.
As a practicing Muslim, I know that my religion teaches peace. I am so certain of this fact that I will award anyone $10,000 if they can find me a verse in the Quran that says it’s ok to kill innocent people or to commit acts of terror. This is an open offer that will never expire.

I also know that Muslims, as a religious group, are not terrorists. I have factually proved this. I also have factually proved that you are more likely to be struck by lightening, crushed to death by a couch, or killed by a toddler, than to be killed by a Muslim.

This being said, why should I have to apologize for a violence that I have no connection to? A violence my religion blatantly stands against.

Ask yourself: Should car manufacturers have to apologize when drunk drivers kill people using their vehicles? Should you be required to apologize to the police if your sibling gets a speeding ticket because you share the same last name? Should every single gun owner in America have to apologize whenever someone is killed by a firearm? Should weathermen have to apologize for cloudy days? Should pharmacists have to apologize for your allergies? Should I have to apologize for the typos of another writer?

Unless you can find that $10,000 verse or unless you blatantly hear a Muslim explicitly supporting terrorism, please understand that asking us, both individually and collectively, to apologize for terrorism would be just as ridiculous as the questions above.

2) It should be obvious by now that Muslims condemn terrorism.
By now, it should be very clear that Muslims condemn terrorism. All it takes is a simple Google search of any terrorist attack to find the plethora of Muslims publicly condemning it. Try it out. For example, here are over 40 examples of Muslims condemning the Charlie Hebdo attacks. And here is an example of how Muslims all across the world condemned the Paris attacks.

Muslims condemn terrorism, we always have. This is a fact. And just as I shouldn’t have to reassure you each morning that the sky is still blue, Muslims should not have to reassure you that we still condemn terrorism every single time a terrorist attack occurs.

And frankly, if you don’t already believe that Muslims condemn terrorism by now, then no apology or repeated broken-record condemnation from any Muslim or Muslim organization will help cure your intolerant hatred.

3) Muslims are at the very forefront of combating terrorism.
The only thing more ridiculous than asking people to apologize for something they have no connection to is to make people apologize for something they are working so hard to combat.

Muslims want to defeat terrorism just as much as any other American, if not more. This is why we have Muslim women like Niloofar Rahmani and Kubra Khademi who are at the very frontlines fighting terrorists. This is why millions of Muslim youth are taking a stand against ISIS. This is why tons of Muslim groups and scholars repeatedly issue statements condemning ISIS, many even being beheaded by ISIS for doing so.

This is why more than 120 Muslim scholars from around the world joined together to write an open letter to ISIS, denouncing them as un-Islamic by using Islamic terms. This is why Muslims are being killed by ISIS for publicly opposing this terrorist group’s persecution of Christians.

For the same reasons that firemen don’t apologize for fires and doctors don’t apologize for heart disease, Muslims should not be expected or asked to apologize for something they are working so hard to combat.

4) Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism.
According to the Counter Terrorism Center at the United States Military Academy at West Point, Al-Qaeda kills over seven times more Muslims than non-Muslims.According to the UN, Muslims are the largest victims of ISIS. According to the State Department, Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism in general. No matter where you look, you will find that the strongest association between Muslims and terrorism is one in which Muslims are victims of it.

There is a sad irony in how Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism yet also receive the most hatred for it. Just as it would be wrong to blame African Americans for slavery, starving children for world hunger, and toddlers for school shootings, it is equally wrong to blame Muslims for terrorism when we are always the victims of it.

Want me to call the leader of ISIS and tell him to stop committing terror? Give me his contact information; I’d be happy to. Any Muslim would. But just know that the conversation would begin with us, ISIS’s largest victims, telling him to stop hijacking our religion to justify killing Muslims who actually follow it.

5) If we have to apologize for terrorism, then so should everyone else.
This last point is especially important. Why are Muslims the only group that are required to apologize for and condemn the actions of criminals that associate with their group?

To put things into perspective, ask yourself: Why aren’t all white males asked to apologize for the slavery that white males endorsed less than two centuries ago? The slavery in which one third of slaves were Muslims. Why aren’t all Buddhists asked to apologize for the radical Buddhist monks in Mynammar that are violently attacking Muslims? Why aren’t all policemen asked to apologize for the racist cops that are dropping the bodies of unarmed blacks like leaves in the autumn?

You must understand that just as you are detached from the heinous crimes mentioned above, I am just as detached from the terrorism that so many keep trying to link me with for no other reason than me being a Muslim.

You must understand that by asking me whether I condemn terrorism, you are questioning my humanity.

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1. Is that a challenge to prove to your satisfaction that the verses contain violence? Cause if it is then true that isn't going to happen. So I will answer this one in this post. Now it will be up to you to pick the worse offenders and tell me why they are not violent.

Quran The Quran's Verses of Violence
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle).

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Meccaafter the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions."This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."


Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." How does the Quran define a true believer?

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. [Note: This parable along with verse58:22 is a major reason that honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.12).]

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost." Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad. The wounded are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost(Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His cause" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "rows" or "battle array," meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9), which defines the "cause": "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of'Adn- Eternity ['Adn(Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see verse 9). It uses the Arabic root for the word Jihad.

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such. Other verses calling Muslims to Jihad can be found here at AnsweringIslam.org

----------------------------------------------------I wonder what or how the boards muslim apologists like 'whats her name' and 'whats his name' explain these verses , Thanks for the verses and info Freewill !!

I am an average poster------I read the koran long long ago ----before most americans ever heard of that book----(of course I also read the Ramayana ---
under the same conditions-------as a child my eyeballs gravitated to what seemed
to be useless books) HAVING read the koran before even knowing what islam
is-------I had the same sense of it that I had of the Ramayana-----neither told me
what ISLAM is all about or-----WHAT HINDUISM is all about. I read the biblical
book of ISAIAH too-------and did not know Judaism is either based on that reading.
As to the koran---MUSLIM SCHOLARS interpret it------SHARIAH IS ISLAM---not
the koran. Judaism is described by rabbis and Christianity is BABY JESUS
asleep in the manger. I see no value in quoting the KORAN----for an understanding of islam-------learn SHARIAH LAW. For an understanding of
Christianity -----attend sunday school (I did several times) ---as to Judaism----
understanding it is something like music----it's got rhythms and a weird form of
script and rules-----like scales and chords

 

[emilynghiem]

I don't feel the need to apologize for anything I didn't do, and if my ancestors did something bad, that's between them and their God.

I didn't do any of that either. I will acknowledge that the political system and free speech we have in America was abused to cause such division and distraction that "allowed" 9/11 to happen, right under our noses. Indirectly I am among those who "didn't do enough to prevent 9/11 from happening" as well as all the aftermath and escalation, where the focus on terrorism became central.

If I at least admit that I didn't prevent it either, that makes me no better than anyone else who is equal in that sense!

If we all admit that none of us did enough to stop it, at least we are on equal footing on that level.
Let's start there, where we are standing on equal ground.

Where none of us has done enough to stop 9/11 and terrorism from happening.
When we communicate it is important to start from a safe place of equal respect and standing.

NEWS FLASH!
All that needed to happen to prevent 911 was to liquidate to terrorists who were 100% responsible for 911 BEFORE they committed the atrocity against innocent men women and children.
"Equal respect"? You are fucking delusional.

dannyboys I am talking about LONGTERM prevention.

Not just stopping a robber at your door by using a gun,
but detecting treating and curing criminal illness wherever it strikes so we don't wait for confrontations to occur to address them.

If you look at diseases that used to be treated by cutting people off or letting them die,
how many of these situations changed when we developed the cure so there was no fear involved in getting diagnosed and treated!

The day we start treating criminal illness, abuse and addiction as diseases
with a CAUSE and CURE we will see a similar change.

I already know people who have mastered and teach the process of diagnosis and cure.
So it's a matter of time before society is ready for applying that globally where it becomes mainstream.

Instead of living in fear of TB and leprosy, these are practically wiped out.
NOT BY KILLING OFF the people who HAVE this sickness,
but addressing the cause of the sickness so the people don't fall victim and don't harm other people either.

Fuck you and your delusions!
Muslims have had fucking CENTURIES! to learn to live peacefully with their neighbors. That has NEVER happened. Never will.
Now they have enclaves throughout Europe and in NA. They have NEVER been remotely interested in 'assimilating'. They think all Westerners' are filthy pigs. They are the gold star winners of the worst forms of misogyny. They are mainly illiterate fucking parasites sucking off the 'Westerner's' teat while spitting on the Westerner. Their mosques are 'terrorist central'.
The only way 'young muslim men' make any money is by selling drugs.
I dare you to go into Dearborn and stand on any fucking corner and spew your delusions.
Where would you like your possessions sent?

Dear dannyboys
What I would recommend is a consortium of Christian Jewish and Muslim leaders to agree
how to teach their religious traditions consistently with Christianity and Constitutionalism.

if the spiritual leaders of these tribes work together and unite around an agreement,
the rest will follow.

Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it won't.
This is inevitable, there has to be agreement if all the other problems are going to be solved.

None of us has ever seen Justice, yet we have faith that in order to get it we have to fight for it.
So just because we have never established equal justice for all
and world peace doesn't mean we shouldn't work for it in order to establish later.

Humanity is reaching critical mass and we are at the end of this learning curve.
We simply cannot afford to keep repeating the same problems, mistakes and wars.

So we have no choice but to come to terms and come to agreement,
and ENFORCE that in unison instead of being "dividing against ourselves"

As long as there is division, fear and unresolved conflicts,
then we aren't done yet.

Not just for Muslims but for Native Americans still fighting for justice,
Africans and African Americans fighting to establish social equality.

None of us will ever see justice if we only fight for ourselves.
But when we unite and work together, we can create the right
environment for peace and justice to sustain naturally.

 

[dannyboys]

I don't feel the need to apologize for anything I didn't do, and if my ancestors did something bad, that's between them and their God.

I didn't do any of that either. I will acknowledge that the political system and free speech we have in America was abused to cause such division and distraction that "allowed" 9/11 to happen, right under our noses. Indirectly I am among those who "didn't do enough to prevent 9/11 from happening" as well as all the aftermath and escalation, where the focus on terrorism became central.

If I at least admit that I didn't prevent it either, that makes me no better than anyone else who is equal in that sense!

If we all admit that none of us did enough to stop it, at least we are on equal footing on that level.
Let's start there, where we are standing on equal ground.

Where none of us has done enough to stop 9/11 and terrorism from happening.
When we communicate it is important to start from a safe place of equal respect and standing.

NEWS FLASH!
All that needed to happen to prevent 911 was to liquidate to terrorists who were 100% responsible for 911 BEFORE they committed the atrocity against innocent men women and children.
"Equal respect"? You are fucking delusional.

dannyboys I am talking about LONGTERM prevention.

Not just stopping a robber at your door by using a gun,
but detecting treating and curing criminal illness wherever it strikes so we don't wait for confrontations to occur to address them.

If you look at diseases that used to be treated by cutting people off or letting them die,
how many of these situations changed when we developed the cure so there was no fear involved in getting diagnosed and treated!

The day we start treating criminal illness, abuse and addiction as diseases
with a CAUSE and CURE we will see a similar change.

I already know people who have mastered and teach the process of diagnosis and cure.
So it's a matter of time before society is ready for applying that globally where it becomes mainstream.

Instead of living in fear of TB and leprosy, these are practically wiped out.
NOT BY KILLING OFF the people who HAVE this sickness,
but addressing the cause of the sickness so the people don't fall victim and don't harm other people either.

Fuck you and your delusions!
Muslims have had fucking CENTURIES! to learn to live peacefully with their neighbors. That has NEVER happened. Never will.
Now they have enclaves throughout Europe and in NA. They have NEVER been remotely interested in 'assimilating'. They think all Westerners' are filthy pigs. They are the gold star winners of the worst forms of misogyny. They are mainly illiterate fucking parasites sucking off the 'Westerner's' teat while spitting on the Westerner. Their mosques are 'terrorist central'.
The only way 'young muslim men' make any money is by selling drugs.
I dare you to go into Dearborn and stand on any fucking corner and spew your delusions.
Where would you like your possessions sent?

Dear dannyboys
What I would recommend is a consortium of Christian Jewish and Muslim leaders to agree
how to teach their religious traditions consistently with Christianity and Constitutionalism.

if the spiritual leaders of these tribes work together and unite around an agreement,
the rest will follow.

Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it won't.
This is inevitable, there has to be agreement if all the other problems are going to be solved.

None of us has ever seen Justice, yet we have faith that in order to get it we have to fight for it.
So just because we have never established equal justice for all
and world peace doesn't mean we shouldn't work for it in order to establish later.

Humanity is reaching critical mass and we are at the end of this learning curve.
We simply cannot afford to keep repeating the same problems, mistakes and wars.

So we have no choice but to come to terms and come to agreement,
and ENFORCE that in unison instead of being "dividing against ourselves"

As long as there is division, fear and unresolved conflicts,
then we aren't done yet.

Not just for Muslims but for Native Americans still fighting for justice,
Africans and African Americans fighting to establish social equality.

None of us will ever see justice if we only fight for ourselves.
But when we unite and work together, we can create the right
environment for peace and justice to sustain naturally.

If this isn't the most naive, childlike post ever I don't know what is:
"What I would recommend is a consortium of Christian Jewish and Muslim leaders to agree
how to teach their religious traditions consistently with Christianity and Constitutionalism."
That's right. You are going to witness fucking muslims "agreeing" to teach Islam according to the Constitution.
What are you? Ten years old?
Seriously!
Christian and Jewish leaders are not telling their followers to go out and blow up innocents who don't believe what they preach like the Imams in every fucking mosque on the planet are doing.
I love the part where after you spew your drivel about everyone living in "peace" you capitalise the word "ENFORCE" to make sure people do what YOU want them to do.
You're a fucking idiot.
You are posting from a muslim country.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Another cop out. He is irrelevant where any apology for suspicion of terrorism is involved. However, like it or not, he is culpable where his religion is the fundamental inspiration for terrorism. He has an obligation just as whites in America in the 1950's and Germans in Nazi Germany had an obligation to stop the abuse of their identification.

 

[dannyboys]

Another cop out. He is irrelevant where any apology for suspicion of terrorism is involved. However, like it or not, he is culpable where his religion is the fundamental inspiration for terrorism. He has an obligation just as whites in America in the 1950's and Germans in Nazi Germany had an obligation to stop the abuse of their identification.

I think you aren't quite understanding the hard reality of what we humans are.
I doubt there were many Whites in the fifties who stayed awake at night feeling guilt about how the negroes were being treated. Same with the average German.
It wasn't because they were hateful psychopaths.
Those times were very different from today.
Attempting to attach what people did decades ago with today's morals is disingenuous and frankly nearsighted.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Another cop out. He is irrelevant where any apology for suspicion of terrorism is involved. However, like it or not, he is culpable where his religion is the fundamental inspiration for terrorism. He has an obligation just as whites in America in the 1950's and Germans in Nazi Germany had an obligation to stop the abuse of their identification.

I think you aren't quite understanding the hard reality of what we humans are.
I doubt there were many Whites in the fifties who stayed awake at night feeling guilt about how the negroes were being treated. Same with the average German.
It wasn't because they were hateful psychopaths.
Those times were very different from today.
Attempting to attach what people did decades ago with today's morals is disingenuous and frankly nearsighted.

My analogy is spot on. Only difference would be muslims of today are totally aware of what muslims are doing and have been doing for decades as far as terrorism is concerned. And many even applaud.

 

[whitehall]

Muslems shouldn't have to apologize for terrorism unless they are guilty of terrorist acts. They should, however, condemn them or remove their stagnant jihad asses from my Country.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Muslems shouldn't have to apologize for terrorism unless they are guilty of terrorist acts. They should, however, condemn them or remove their stagnant jihad asses from my Country.

They should be proactive in prevention. Like the muslims who work with our military are. Otherwise they are copping out and trying to protect themselves from their own culpability.

 

[irosie91]

I didn't do any of that either. I will acknowledge that the political system and free speech we have in America was abused to cause such division and distraction that "allowed" 9/11 to happen, right under our noses. Indirectly I am among those who "didn't do enough to prevent 9/11 from happening" as well as all the aftermath and escalation, where the focus on terrorism became central.

If I at least admit that I didn't prevent it either, that makes me no better than anyone else who is equal in that sense!

If we all admit that none of us did enough to stop it, at least we are on equal footing on that level.
Let's start there, where we are standing on equal ground.

Where none of us has done enough to stop 9/11 and terrorism from happening.
When we communicate it is important to start from a safe place of equal respect and standing.

NEWS FLASH!
All that needed to happen to prevent 911 was to liquidate to terrorists who were 100% responsible for 911 BEFORE they committed the atrocity against innocent men women and children.
"Equal respect"? You are fucking delusional.

dannyboys I am talking about LONGTERM prevention.

Not just stopping a robber at your door by using a gun,
but detecting treating and curing criminal illness wherever it strikes so we don't wait for confrontations to occur to address them.

If you look at diseases that used to be treated by cutting people off or letting them die,
how many of these situations changed when we developed the cure so there was no fear involved in getting diagnosed and treated!

The day we start treating criminal illness, abuse and addiction as diseases
with a CAUSE and CURE we will see a similar change.

I already know people who have mastered and teach the process of diagnosis and cure.
So it's a matter of time before society is ready for applying that globally where it becomes mainstream.

Instead of living in fear of TB and leprosy, these are practically wiped out.
NOT BY KILLING OFF the people who HAVE this sickness,
but addressing the cause of the sickness so the people don't fall victim and don't harm other people either.

Fuck you and your delusions!
Muslims have had fucking CENTURIES! to learn to live peacefully with their neighbors. That has NEVER happened. Never will.
Now they have enclaves throughout Europe and in NA. They have NEVER been remotely interested in 'assimilating'. They think all Westerners' are filthy pigs. They are the gold star winners of the worst forms of misogyny. They are mainly illiterate fucking parasites sucking off the 'Westerner's' teat while spitting on the Westerner. Their mosques are 'terrorist central'.
The only way 'young muslim men' make any money is by selling drugs.
I dare you to go into Dearborn and stand on any fucking corner and spew your delusions.
Where would you like your possessions sent?

Dear dannyboys
What I would recommend is a consortium of Christian Jewish and Muslim leaders to agree
how to teach their religious traditions consistently with Christianity and Constitutionalism.

if the spiritual leaders of these tribes work together and unite around an agreement,
the rest will follow.

Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it won't.
This is inevitable, there has to be agreement if all the other problems are going to be solved.

None of us has ever seen Justice, yet we have faith that in order to get it we have to fight for it.
So just because we have never established equal justice for all
and world peace doesn't mean we shouldn't work for it in order to establish later.

Humanity is reaching critical mass and we are at the end of this learning curve.
We simply cannot afford to keep repeating the same problems, mistakes and wars.

So we have no choice but to come to terms and come to agreement,
and ENFORCE that in unison instead of being "dividing against ourselves"

As long as there is division, fear and unresolved conflicts,
then we aren't done yet.

Not just for Muslims but for Native Americans still fighting for justice,
Africans and African Americans fighting to establish social equality.

None of us will ever see justice if we only fight for ourselves.
But when we unite and work together, we can create the right
environment for peace and justice to sustain naturally.

If this isn't the most naive, childlike post ever I don't know what is:
"What I would recommend is a consortium of Christian Jewish and Muslim leaders to agree
how to teach their religious traditions consistently with Christianity and Constitutionalism."
That's right. You are going to witness fucking muslims "agreeing" to teach Islam according to the Constitution.
What are you? Ten years old?
Seriously!
Christian and Jewish leaders are not telling their followers to go out and blow up innocents who don't believe what they preach like the Imams in every fucking mosque on the planet are doing.
I love the part where after you spew your drivel about everyone living in "peace" you capitalise the word "ENFORCE" to make sure people do what YOU want them to do.
You're a fucking idiot.
You are posting from a muslim country.

Its not naïve -----it is NEFARIOUS------it is the basis for the VERY DANGEROUS AND SICK movement advocating WORLE WIDE MONOTHEISM------no thanks---
I kinda like Hindus and----Buddhists, and----whatevah there is out there. In fact ---
in my view it's basis is islamo Nazism. There is whole BIG established organization invented by a Saudi "prince" ------some seemingly ??intelligent
people seemed to have signed up for this MONSTROCITY------it seeks
THEOCRATIC WORLD GOVERNMENT (the name of the "prince" might be
?? TALAL ?? don't quote me----I am not sure)

 

[irosie91]

Muslems shouldn't have to apologize for terrorism unless they are guilty of terrorist acts. They should, however, condemn them or remove their stagnant jihad asses from my Country.

there is a very interesting ethos involving COMMUNITY GUILT ----in the middle east. It is very prominent in Jewish law------and actually really is a middle east
thing. The whole community is kinda supposed to feel bad if one of THEIRS
happens to commit a crime. My poor hubby was afflicted with an extreme sense
of guilt because a person of HIS ----group-----Killed RABIN----(remember him?)
In jewish law if a person is FOUND DEAD---dead--- near a village-----the whole village is kinda------REQUIRED to sorta mourn and go thru some sort of "cleansing"
ceremonies because such a horror took place within its precincts. This is a kind
of COMMUNITY GUILT idea Some thing wrong with a village near which unattended people are ---simply KILLED. The whole sunni Shiite thing is actually
a community guilt thing------all DA SHIITES did something wrong----<'god-knows-when-or-what> For that matter----the Hatfields and McCoys----up there in the
hills are still fighting over some community guilt idea------and they is AMERICANS
(sorta). Getting back to the med-student muzzie------he should COME-OFF-IT.
He must know that muzzies have been enacting POGROMS against non-muslims
of all the various flavors for millennia because of little incidents they consider
"insulting" to islam. ----by single members of the KAFIR side----even trivial events.

 

[AmericanFirst1]

I cut out the intro that wasn't necessary for me anyway, and jumped to the part where this author does a good job of REPRESENTING HIMSELF. If we all did that, spoke for ourselves, and quit projecting images and associations in our minds by group affiliation, we'd cut through the barriers of bigotry whether it's race, religion, political affiliation or nationality that we are reacting to. We all do this.

If anything, I think people owe an apology to each other for the things we've each done that damaged relations and faith of other people. So I will apologize and say I'm sorry I haven't done enough to bring world peace yet. But if we all do our part, and we forgive each other when we fail, we can correct 98% of the causes of problems in advance by being more transparent and open to address these faults. Instead of shutting down relations and communication by the politics and blame game that doesn't solve the problems on all sides. Maybe there will always be the 2% we can't help, can't detect in advance or see coming in time. But looking at most problems, very few come out of the blue with no warning signs at all of the causes behind them. As long as there is a pattern of cause and effect, there is a way to reduce the negative outcomes by applying science and reason to identify and correct the factors that go astray.

I am sorry for terrorism. I am sorry for racism and political bullying. I do what I can, but it's never enough so I do apologize that it has caused so much suffering, and the anger it causes, the loss of faith is partially what motivates the ill will, retribution and reckless seizure and abuse of power by terrorists and other oppressors, abusers and bullies. We have to undo all those layers to get rid of the negative fuel to these fires. We all need healing, and I am sorry the healing, corrections, and prevention aren't happening fast enough.

I have the choice to apologize. Unlike others who are pressured to and have a whole other dynamic to answer to, I don't have that on me. I was never forced or made to feel guilty or punished/judged if I didn't accept Christianity or some other religion. I have always had a free choice to look into these situations, and CHOOSE to understand and accept the parts that made sense to me.

Unlike the Muslims, Nobody is bullying forcing or expecting me to apologize.
So given the freedom I have to choose to accept my part of the responsibility,
yes, I do believe it is up to all of us in society to prevent fear ill will and unforgiven conflicts
from escalating into repeat abuse, oppression, bullying, rights violations, violence, war and crime.

I apologize for my part in contributing to the mess the world is in right now
by either omission, negligence, or inciting more fear and ill will
even when I mean to foster forgiveness, understanding and new insights into solutions.

Here's the student's statement on why he isn't apologizing for terrorism as a Muslim American:
================================================================

I am a proud American, raised in Texas. I’m a college student. I’m a humanitarian. I’m an aspiring physician. I’m someone who hopes to revolutionize access to medicine and healthcare in the United States and in war-torn countries across the world. I also am a M-u-s-l-i-m, one of over 1.6 billion who are blamed whenever an act of terrorism occurs as if we are nothing more than this 6-letter word hijacked by those who wrongly use our religion to justify their heinous crimes.

As a Muslim American who continually strives to do everything I can for the betterment of my community and this nation, I am tired of being asked to apologize and condemn terrorism that I have absolutely nothing to do with.

Here Are Five Reasons Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize for Terrorism:

1) It’s ridiculous to ask us to apologize.
As a practicing Muslim, I know that my religion teaches peace. I am so certain of this fact that I will award anyone $10,000 if they can find me a verse in the Quran that says it’s ok to kill innocent people or to commit acts of terror. This is an open offer that will never expire.

I also know that Muslims, as a religious group, are not terrorists. I have factually proved this. I also have factually proved that you are more likely to be struck by lightening, crushed to death by a couch, or killed by a toddler, than to be killed by a Muslim.

This being said, why should I have to apologize for a violence that I have no connection to? A violence my religion blatantly stands against.

Ask yourself: Should car manufacturers have to apologize when drunk drivers kill people using their vehicles? Should you be required to apologize to the police if your sibling gets a speeding ticket because you share the same last name? Should every single gun owner in America have to apologize whenever someone is killed by a firearm? Should weathermen have to apologize for cloudy days? Should pharmacists have to apologize for your allergies? Should I have to apologize for the typos of another writer?

Unless you can find that $10,000 verse or unless you blatantly hear a Muslim explicitly supporting terrorism, please understand that asking us, both individually and collectively, to apologize for terrorism would be just as ridiculous as the questions above.

2) It should be obvious by now that Muslims condemn terrorism.
By now, it should be very clear that Muslims condemn terrorism. All it takes is a simple Google search of any terrorist attack to find the plethora of Muslims publicly condemning it. Try it out. For example, here are over 40 examples of Muslims condemning the Charlie Hebdo attacks. And here is an example of how Muslims all across the world condemned the Paris attacks.

Muslims condemn terrorism, we always have. This is a fact. And just as I shouldn’t have to reassure you each morning that the sky is still blue, Muslims should not have to reassure you that we still condemn terrorism every single time a terrorist attack occurs.

And frankly, if you don’t already believe that Muslims condemn terrorism by now, then no apology or repeated broken-record condemnation from any Muslim or Muslim organization will help cure your intolerant hatred.

3) Muslims are at the very forefront of combating terrorism.
The only thing more ridiculous than asking people to apologize for something they have no connection to is to make people apologize for something they are working so hard to combat.

Muslims want to defeat terrorism just as much as any other American, if not more. This is why we have Muslim women like Niloofar Rahmani and Kubra Khademi who are at the very frontlines fighting terrorists. This is why millions of Muslim youth are taking a stand against ISIS. This is why tons of Muslim groups and scholars repeatedly issue statements condemning ISIS, many even being beheaded by ISIS for doing so.

This is why more than 120 Muslim scholars from around the world joined together to write an open letter to ISIS, denouncing them as un-Islamic by using Islamic terms. This is why Muslims are being killed by ISIS for publicly opposing this terrorist group’s persecution of Christians.

For the same reasons that firemen don’t apologize for fires and doctors don’t apologize for heart disease, Muslims should not be expected or asked to apologize for something they are working so hard to combat.

4) Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism.
According to the Counter Terrorism Center at the United States Military Academy at West Point, Al-Qaeda kills over seven times more Muslims than non-Muslims.According to the UN, Muslims are the largest victims of ISIS. According to the State Department, Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism in general. No matter where you look, you will find that the strongest association between Muslims and terrorism is one in which Muslims are victims of it.

There is a sad irony in how Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism yet also receive the most hatred for it. Just as it would be wrong to blame African Americans for slavery, starving children for world hunger, and toddlers for school shootings, it is equally wrong to blame Muslims for terrorism when we are always the victims of it.

Want me to call the leader of ISIS and tell him to stop committing terror? Give me his contact information; I’d be happy to. Any Muslim would. But just know that the conversation would begin with us, ISIS’s largest victims, telling him to stop hijacking our religion to justify killing Muslims who actually follow it.

5) If we have to apologize for terrorism, then so should everyone else.
This last point is especially important. Why are Muslims the only group that are required to apologize for and condemn the actions of criminals that associate with their group?

To put things into perspective, ask yourself: Why aren’t all white males asked to apologize for the slavery that white males endorsed less than two centuries ago? The slavery in which one third of slaves were Muslims. Why aren’t all Buddhists asked to apologize for the radical Buddhist monks in Mynammar that are violently attacking Muslims? Why aren’t all policemen asked to apologize for the racist cops that are dropping the bodies of unarmed blacks like leaves in the autumn?

You must understand that just as you are detached from the heinous crimes mentioned above, I am just as detached from the terrorism that so many keep trying to link me with for no other reason than me being a Muslim.

You must understand that by asking me whether I condemn terrorism, you are questioning my humanity.

Follow Omar Alnatour on Twitter: www.twitter.com/WeTeachLifeSir_

You are full of pork grease. The Quran tells you mooooslime to commit jihad against non believers. In one part of the Quran it calls Allah, or satan, the great deceiver.

 

[HenryBHough]

Muslims eschew cannibalism.

For that reason they won't eat pig meat.

 

[irosie91]

I cut out the intro that wasn't necessary for me anyway, and jumped to the part where this author does a good job of REPRESENTING HIMSELF. If we all did that, spoke for ourselves, and quit projecting images and associations in our minds by group affiliation, we'd cut through the barriers of bigotry whether it's race, religion, political affiliation or nationality that we are reacting to. We all do this.

If anything, I think people owe an apology to each other for the things we've each done that damaged relations and faith of other people. So I will apologize and say I'm sorry I haven't done enough to bring world peace yet. But if we all do our part, and we forgive each other when we fail, we can correct 98% of the causes of problems in advance by being more transparent and open to address these faults. Instead of shutting down relations and communication by the politics and blame game that doesn't solve the problems on all sides. Maybe there will always be the 2% we can't help, can't detect in advance or see coming in time. But looking at most problems, very few come out of the blue with no warning signs at all of the causes behind them. As long as there is a pattern of cause and effect, there is a way to reduce the negative outcomes by applying science and reason to identify and correct the factors that go astray.

I am sorry for terrorism. I am sorry for racism and political bullying. I do what I can, but it's never enough so I do apologize that it has caused so much suffering, and the anger it causes, the loss of faith is partially what motivates the ill will, retribution and reckless seizure and abuse of power by terrorists and other oppressors, abusers and bullies. We have to undo all those layers to get rid of the negative fuel to these fires. We all need healing, and I am sorry the healing, corrections, and prevention aren't happening fast enough.

I have the choice to apologize. Unlike others who are pressured to and have a whole other dynamic to answer to, I don't have that on me. I was never forced or made to feel guilty or punished/judged if I didn't accept Christianity or some other religion. I have always had a free choice to look into these situations, and CHOOSE to understand and accept the parts that made sense to me.

Unlike the Muslims, Nobody is bullying forcing or expecting me to apologize.
So given the freedom I have to choose to accept my part of the responsibility,
yes, I do believe it is up to all of us in society to prevent fear ill will and unforgiven conflicts
from escalating into repeat abuse, oppression, bullying, rights violations, violence, war and crime.

I apologize for my part in contributing to the mess the world is in right now
by either omission, negligence, or inciting more fear and ill will
even when I mean to foster forgiveness, understanding and new insights into solutions.

Here's the student's statement on why he isn't apologizing for terrorism as a Muslim American:
================================================================

I am a proud American, raised in Texas. I’m a college student. I’m a humanitarian. I’m an aspiring physician. I’m someone who hopes to revolutionize access to medicine and healthcare in the United States and in war-torn countries across the world. I also am a M-u-s-l-i-m, one of over 1.6 billion who are blamed whenever an act of terrorism occurs as if we are nothing more than this 6-letter word hijacked by those who wrongly use our religion to justify their heinous crimes.

As a Muslim American who continually strives to do everything I can for the betterment of my community and this nation, I am tired of being asked to apologize and condemn terrorism that I have absolutely nothing to do with.

Here Are Five Reasons Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize for Terrorism:

1) It’s ridiculous to ask us to apologize.
As a practicing Muslim, I know that my religion teaches peace. I am so certain of this fact that I will award anyone $10,000 if they can find me a verse in the Quran that says it’s ok to kill innocent people or to commit acts of terror. This is an open offer that will never expire.

I also know that Muslims, as a religious group, are not terrorists. I have factually proved this. I also have factually proved that you are more likely to be struck by lightening, crushed to death by a couch, or killed by a toddler, than to be killed by a Muslim.

This being said, why should I have to apologize for a violence that I have no connection to? A violence my religion blatantly stands against.

Ask yourself: Should car manufacturers have to apologize when drunk drivers kill people using their vehicles? Should you be required to apologize to the police if your sibling gets a speeding ticket because you share the same last name? Should every single gun owner in America have to apologize whenever someone is killed by a firearm? Should weathermen have to apologize for cloudy days? Should pharmacists have to apologize for your allergies? Should I have to apologize for the typos of another writer?

Unless you can find that $10,000 verse or unless you blatantly hear a Muslim explicitly supporting terrorism, please understand that asking us, both individually and collectively, to apologize for terrorism would be just as ridiculous as the questions above.

2) It should be obvious by now that Muslims condemn terrorism.
By now, it should be very clear that Muslims condemn terrorism. All it takes is a simple Google search of any terrorist attack to find the plethora of Muslims publicly condemning it. Try it out. For example, here are over 40 examples of Muslims condemning the Charlie Hebdo attacks. And here is an example of how Muslims all across the world condemned the Paris attacks.

Muslims condemn terrorism, we always have. This is a fact. And just as I shouldn’t have to reassure you each morning that the sky is still blue, Muslims should not have to reassure you that we still condemn terrorism every single time a terrorist attack occurs.

And frankly, if you don’t already believe that Muslims condemn terrorism by now, then no apology or repeated broken-record condemnation from any Muslim or Muslim organization will help cure your intolerant hatred.

3) Muslims are at the very forefront of combating terrorism.
The only thing more ridiculous than asking people to apologize for something they have no connection to is to make people apologize for something they are working so hard to combat.

Muslims want to defeat terrorism just as much as any other American, if not more. This is why we have Muslim women like Niloofar Rahmani and Kubra Khademi who are at the very frontlines fighting terrorists. This is why millions of Muslim youth are taking a stand against ISIS. This is why tons of Muslim groups and scholars repeatedly issue statements condemning ISIS, many even being beheaded by ISIS for doing so.

This is why more than 120 Muslim scholars from around the world joined together to write an open letter to ISIS, denouncing them as un-Islamic by using Islamic terms. This is why Muslims are being killed by ISIS for publicly opposing this terrorist group’s persecution of Christians.

For the same reasons that firemen don’t apologize for fires and doctors don’t apologize for heart disease, Muslims should not be expected or asked to apologize for something they are working so hard to combat.

4) Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism.
According to the Counter Terrorism Center at the United States Military Academy at West Point, Al-Qaeda kills over seven times more Muslims than non-Muslims.According to the UN, Muslims are the largest victims of ISIS. According to the State Department, Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism in general. No matter where you look, you will find that the strongest association between Muslims and terrorism is one in which Muslims are victims of it.

There is a sad irony in how Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism yet also receive the most hatred for it. Just as it would be wrong to blame African Americans for slavery, starving children for world hunger, and toddlers for school shootings, it is equally wrong to blame Muslims for terrorism when we are always the victims of it.

Want me to call the leader of ISIS and tell him to stop committing terror? Give me his contact information; I’d be happy to. Any Muslim would. But just know that the conversation would begin with us, ISIS’s largest victims, telling him to stop hijacking our religion to justify killing Muslims who actually follow it.

5) If we have to apologize for terrorism, then so should everyone else.
This last point is especially important. Why are Muslims the only group that are required to apologize for and condemn the actions of criminals that associate with their group?

To put things into perspective, ask yourself: Why aren’t all white males asked to apologize for the slavery that white males endorsed less than two centuries ago? The slavery in which one third of slaves were Muslims. Why aren’t all Buddhists asked to apologize for the radical Buddhist monks in Mynammar that are violently attacking Muslims? Why aren’t all policemen asked to apologize for the racist cops that are dropping the bodies of unarmed blacks like leaves in the autumn?

You must understand that just as you are detached from the heinous crimes mentioned above, I am just as detached from the terrorism that so many keep trying to link me with for no other reason than me being a Muslim.

You must understand that by asking me whether I condemn terrorism, you are questioning my humanity.

Follow Omar Alnatour on Twitter: www.twitter.com/WeTeachLifeSir_

You are full of pork grease. The Quran tells you mooooslime to commit jihad against non believers. In one part of the Quran it calls Allah, or satan, the great deceiver.

well----yes it does-----but that does not mean they HAVE TO---------they could kinda
interpret it out of the system. The persons who INSIST upon emulation of
muhummad in word and deed----as much as possible are really the ones who have
screwed things up

 

[Freewill]

I cut out the intro that wasn't necessary for me anyway, and jumped to the part where this author does a good job of REPRESENTING HIMSELF. If we all did that, spoke for ourselves, and quit projecting images and associations in our minds by group affiliation, we'd cut through the barriers of bigotry whether it's race, religion, political affiliation or nationality that we are reacting to. We all do this.

If anything, I think people owe an apology to each other for the things we've each done that damaged relations and faith of other people. So I will apologize and say I'm sorry I haven't done enough to bring world peace yet. But if we all do our part, and we forgive each other when we fail, we can correct 98% of the causes of problems in advance by being more transparent and open to address these faults. Instead of shutting down relations and communication by the politics and blame game that doesn't solve the problems on all sides. Maybe there will always be the 2% we can't help, can't detect in advance or see coming in time. But looking at most problems, very few come out of the blue with no warning signs at all of the causes behind them. As long as there is a pattern of cause and effect, there is a way to reduce the negative outcomes by applying science and reason to identify and correct the factors that go astray.

I am sorry for terrorism. I am sorry for racism and political bullying. I do what I can, but it's never enough so I do apologize that it has caused so much suffering, and the anger it causes, the loss of faith is partially what motivates the ill will, retribution and reckless seizure and abuse of power by terrorists and other oppressors, abusers and bullies. We have to undo all those layers to get rid of the negative fuel to these fires. We all need healing, and I am sorry the healing, corrections, and prevention aren't happening fast enough.

I have the choice to apologize. Unlike others who are pressured to and have a whole other dynamic to answer to, I don't have that on me. I was never forced or made to feel guilty or punished/judged if I didn't accept Christianity or some other religion. I have always had a free choice to look into these situations, and CHOOSE to understand and accept the parts that made sense to me.

Unlike the Muslims, Nobody is bullying forcing or expecting me to apologize.
So given the freedom I have to choose to accept my part of the responsibility,
yes, I do believe it is up to all of us in society to prevent fear ill will and unforgiven conflicts
from escalating into repeat abuse, oppression, bullying, rights violations, violence, war and crime.

I apologize for my part in contributing to the mess the world is in right now
by either omission, negligence, or inciting more fear and ill will
even when I mean to foster forgiveness, understanding and new insights into solutions.

Here's the student's statement on why he isn't apologizing for terrorism as a Muslim American:
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I am a proud American, raised in Texas. I’m a college student. I’m a humanitarian. I’m an aspiring physician. I’m someone who hopes to revolutionize access to medicine and healthcare in the United States and in war-torn countries across the world. I also am a M-u-s-l-i-m, one of over 1.6 billion who are blamed whenever an act of terrorism occurs as if we are nothing more than this 6-letter word hijacked by those who wrongly use our religion to justify their heinous crimes.

As a Muslim American who continually strives to do everything I can for the betterment of my community and this nation, I am tired of being asked to apologize and condemn terrorism that I have absolutely nothing to do with.

Here Are Five Reasons Why Muslims Should Never Have To Apologize for Terrorism:

1) It’s ridiculous to ask us to apologize.
As a practicing Muslim, I know that my religion teaches peace. I am so certain of this fact that I will award anyone $10,000 if they can find me a verse in the Quran that says it’s ok to kill innocent people or to commit acts of terror. This is an open offer that will never expire.

I also know that Muslims, as a religious group, are not terrorists. I have factually proved this. I also have factually proved that you are more likely to be struck by lightening, crushed to death by a couch, or killed by a toddler, than to be killed by a Muslim.

This being said, why should I have to apologize for a violence that I have no connection to? A violence my religion blatantly stands against.

Ask yourself: Should car manufacturers have to apologize when drunk drivers kill people using their vehicles? Should you be required to apologize to the police if your sibling gets a speeding ticket because you share the same last name? Should every single gun owner in America have to apologize whenever someone is killed by a firearm? Should weathermen have to apologize for cloudy days? Should pharmacists have to apologize for your allergies? Should I have to apologize for the typos of another writer?

Unless you can find that $10,000 verse or unless you blatantly hear a Muslim explicitly supporting terrorism, please understand that asking us, both individually and collectively, to apologize for terrorism would be just as ridiculous as the questions above.

2) It should be obvious by now that Muslims condemn terrorism.
By now, it should be very clear that Muslims condemn terrorism. All it takes is a simple Google search of any terrorist attack to find the plethora of Muslims publicly condemning it. Try it out. For example, here are over 40 examples of Muslims condemning the Charlie Hebdo attacks. And here is an example of how Muslims all across the world condemned the Paris attacks.

Muslims condemn terrorism, we always have. This is a fact. And just as I shouldn’t have to reassure you each morning that the sky is still blue, Muslims should not have to reassure you that we still condemn terrorism every single time a terrorist attack occurs.

And frankly, if you don’t already believe that Muslims condemn terrorism by now, then no apology or repeated broken-record condemnation from any Muslim or Muslim organization will help cure your intolerant hatred.

3) Muslims are at the very forefront of combating terrorism.
The only thing more ridiculous than asking people to apologize for something they have no connection to is to make people apologize for something they are working so hard to combat.

Muslims want to defeat terrorism just as much as any other American, if not more. This is why we have Muslim women like Niloofar Rahmani and Kubra Khademi who are at the very frontlines fighting terrorists. This is why millions of Muslim youth are taking a stand against ISIS. This is why tons of Muslim groups and scholars repeatedly issue statements condemning ISIS, many even being beheaded by ISIS for doing so.

This is why more than 120 Muslim scholars from around the world joined together to write an open letter to ISIS, denouncing them as un-Islamic by using Islamic terms. This is why Muslims are being killed by ISIS for publicly opposing this terrorist group’s persecution of Christians.

For the same reasons that firemen don’t apologize for fires and doctors don’t apologize for heart disease, Muslims should not be expected or asked to apologize for something they are working so hard to combat.

4) Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism.
According to the Counter Terrorism Center at the United States Military Academy at West Point, Al-Qaeda kills over seven times more Muslims than non-Muslims.According to the UN, Muslims are the largest victims of ISIS. According to the State Department, Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism in general. No matter where you look, you will find that the strongest association between Muslims and terrorism is one in which Muslims are victims of it.

There is a sad irony in how Muslims are the largest victims of terrorism yet also receive the most hatred for it. Just as it would be wrong to blame African Americans for slavery, starving children for world hunger, and toddlers for school shootings, it is equally wrong to blame Muslims for terrorism when we are always the victims of it.

Want me to call the leader of ISIS and tell him to stop committing terror? Give me his contact information; I’d be happy to. Any Muslim would. But just know that the conversation would begin with us, ISIS’s largest victims, telling him to stop hijacking our religion to justify killing Muslims who actually follow it.

5) If we have to apologize for terrorism, then so should everyone else.
This last point is especially important. Why are Muslims the only group that are required to apologize for and condemn the actions of criminals that associate with their group?

To put things into perspective, ask yourself: Why aren’t all white males asked to apologize for the slavery that white males endorsed less than two centuries ago? The slavery in which one third of slaves were Muslims. Why aren’t all Buddhists asked to apologize for the radical Buddhist monks in Mynammar that are violently attacking Muslims? Why aren’t all policemen asked to apologize for the racist cops that are dropping the bodies of unarmed blacks like leaves in the autumn?

You must understand that just as you are detached from the heinous crimes mentioned above, I am just as detached from the terrorism that so many keep trying to link me with for no other reason than me being a Muslim.

You must understand that by asking me whether I condemn terrorism, you are questioning my humanity.

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1. Is that a challenge to prove to your satisfaction that the verses contain violence? Cause if it is then true that isn't going to happen. So I will answer this one in this post. Now it will be up to you to pick the worse offenders and tell me why they are not violent.

Quran The Quran's Verses of Violence
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle).

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Meccaafter the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions."This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."


Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." How does the Quran define a true believer?

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. [Note: This parable along with verse58:22 is a major reason that honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.12).]

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost." Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad. The wounded are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost(Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His cause" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "rows" or "battle array," meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9), which defines the "cause": "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of'Adn- Eternity ['Adn(Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see verse 9). It uses the Arabic root for the word Jihad.

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such. Other verses calling Muslims to Jihad can be found here at AnsweringIslam.org

----------------------------------------------------I wonder what or how the boards muslim apologists like 'whats her name' and 'whats his name' explain these verses , Thanks for the verses and info Freewill !!

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The student says that nowhere in the Quran, does it say one can kill innocents. The problem with that is that Islam does not consider non-believers, whether men, women or children, to be innocents. To a true believer in Islam, anyone not of their faith, is not an innocent and thus a fair target.