America Wants the Public Option

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    America stills wants the public option.

    Despite all the bickering over health care, all the distortion and misrepresentation of the tea baggers, all the obstruction of the Republicans, Americans want the public option. Startlingly, that includes a majority of those who want the recent legislation repealed.

     
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    America Wants the Public Option

    That must be why you kept the Kennedy Seat...oh, wait!
     
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    The Democrats lost that seat because they were insufficiently zealous in pursuing the mandate they were given. Scott Brown won because Democrats stayed home and they stayed home because the Democrats they sent to Washington were too willing to compromise with the Republicans.

    The moral of the story is this: Americans want Big Government health care. If the Democrats give it to them, Democrats willl win elections. If they don't, the Republicans will win elections.
     
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    Polls like this and even the one about health care repeal are close to useless. It is all in the wording, and if a spoken poll, the inflection of the questioning.

    The only poll that counts is in november. Before that polls are only quasi-real numbers that are used to make your opinion look popular.
     
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    Sure. A single poll doesn't mean much but that's not the case here. This poll is consistent with other polls. Americans want a much more coherent and responsive health care system.
     
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    Since when do you fucking dimmy progressives care what the people want?
     
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    Give it time...

    Let the existing Healthcare law settle in and then attack the Public Option in 2011 or 2012.
     
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    Why bother? it'll happen by attrition anyway once the so called health care reform bill puts the price of insurance through the roof.

    The the benevolent government can deem we need to buy our insurance from AIG.
     
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    My concern isnt even with multiple polls. Its that the person asking the question has too many tricks to skewer the results to what they want to hear. How you ask the question, your tone, the area you ask in all make for too many variables.

    Now electoral polls are different, there your choice is between people. For topic polls, lets see how many ways we can ask the same question.

    1. Are you in favor of a pubic option
    2. Are you against a public option

    Two basic variations. now we can add stuff.

    Are you in favor of a public option, funded by federal taxes, that competes with private insurers?

    Are you in favor of a public option, run by the government using the same rules as a private insurer?

    Then ask the same questions using the negative. Im sure you will get various results outside the MOE. Then add when you call during the day. At noon when its mostly the unemployed, housewives and retirees at home? At night when people come home from work? Using cell phones that skew ownership towards younger people?

    I can go on with the permutations used in poll questions you can use to get the numbers you want.
     
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    That's right. That's why no single poll can be considered a reliable indicator of public opinion. Based on the assumption not every poll and not every pollster will frame questions in the same way, a reliable perspective on public opinion has to include more than one poll. That's the case with health care. Poll after poll indicates Americans want a public alternative to free-market health care.
     

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