All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Very Poor Logic and the application of a fallacy (ad Hominem).
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Identifying a person (or persons) as a "Terrorist" has been in the international political and judicial vocabulary since 1938. The use of such a term is just as valid as identifying someone as a "Palestinian."

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Such things help to define a word that modifies a noun.

◈ Hostile Arab Palestinian​

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◈ Terrorist Arab Palestinian​

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◈ Hostile Arab Palestinian Terrorist.​

THE WORKING DEFINITION OF ANTI-SEMITISM​

What Does It Mean,​

Why Is It Important, and​

What Should We Do With It?​

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Most educated people define the terms or outline why a term is not applicable. To play "Osterich" and stick your head in the sand in order to disavow knowledge that that the European Union (representing 27 Countries) identifies the following organizations as terrorist groups or entities:
(See 9/1/2019 Official Journal of the European Union) (COUNCIL DECISION (CFSP) 2019/25)

◈ Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade​

◈ Hamas’, including ‘Hamas-Izz al-Din al-Qassem​

◈ Hizbollah Military Wing​

◈ Palestinian Islamic Jihad​

◈ Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine​

◈ Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine — General Command​

(COMMENT)

Should we just retire such words, simply because it offends the sensibilities of the perpetrator? (RHETORICAL) Well that is like saying that a neighborhood should not know has a resident "sex offender." That is like saying that you should not notify residents of a local center for helping former drug addicts, prisoners, psychiatric patients, or others has been established in their neighborhood.

More importantly, are the likes of communication and support these various Palestinian organizations have established. You have no doubt noticed that the Arab Republic of Egypt has simply closed its border crossing with the Gaza Strip. And this is a perfect case of "selective enforcement" on the allegation of "apartheid." Egypt completely closes it border crossing (not apartheid), but Israel is apartheid because: 80 percent of the goods entering the Gaza Strip pass through the Kerem Shalom Crossing. in terms of value, are purchased from Israeli companies and suppliers. The Kerem Shalom Crossing is economically vital for the Gazans to get their goods to market in the West Bank and Israel. The Israelis are now allowing some 10,000 Gazan Merchants and Sellers to pass into Israel through the Erez Border Crossing. The Rafah Border Crossing Point has recently reopened a portion of the crossing (one-way operations).


Most Respectfully,
R

What criteria is used for terrorist designations? What is the due process used?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Arrest and Charge 'vs' Criminal Proceedings
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The issue of the Charge (or designation) of Terrorism is an Executive Function. As a general rule, the Police, Security, and Counterintelligence Services are part of the executive; whereas, the Courts, where due process enters the equation, is part of the Judiciary.

What criteria is used for terrorist designations? What is the due process used?

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This (mixing Apples and Oranges) is another technique used by the Hostile Arab Palestinians, pro-Arab Palestinian associates, and the anti-Israel advocates to entangle the ground truth and facts of the questions.

Criteria (Elements to the Offense) are dependent on the venue and jurisdiction. See Posting #3680 and review the the EU Material. Start with: (See 9/1/2019 Official Journal of the European Union) (COUNCIL DECISION (CFSP) 2019/25)

The generalized understanding is that the International Courts have adopted (in part but not all-inclusive) may apply: (Article #38 • Statute of the International Court of Justice (ICJ))

1. international conventions, whether general or particular, establishing rules expressly recognized by the contesting states;
2. international custom, as evidence of a general practice accepted as law;
3. the general principles of law recognized by civilized nations;
4. subject to the provisions of Article 59, judicial decisions and the teachings of the most highly qualified publicists of the various nations, as subsidiary means for the determination of rules of law. .

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Jewish American Explains Why She Supports Palestine and BDS​

 

[P F Tinmore]

The issue of the Charge (or designation) of Terrorism is an Executive Function. As a general rule, the Police, Security, and Counterintelligence Services are part of the executive; whereas, the Courts, where due process enters the equation, is part of the Judiciary.

So there is no due process. It is just name calling.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Arrest and Charge 'vs' Criminal Proceedings
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The issue of the Charge (or designation) of Terrorism is an Executive Function. As a general rule, the Police, Security, and Counterintelligence Services are part of the executive; whereas, the Courts, where due process enters the equation, is part of the Judiciary.


(COMMENT)
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This (mixing Apples and Oranges) is another technique used by the Hostile Arab Palestinians, pro-Arab Palestinian associates, and the anti-Israel advocates to entangle the ground truth and facts of the questions.

Criteria (Elements to the Offense) are dependent on the venue and jurisdiction. See Posting #3680 and review the the EU Material. Start with: (See 9/1/2019 Official Journal of the European Union) (COUNCIL DECISION (CFSP) 2019/25)

The generalized understanding is that the International Courts have adopted (in part but not all-inclusive) may apply: (Article #38 • Statute of the International Court of Justice (ICJ))

1. international conventions, whether general or particular, establishing rules expressly recognized by the contesting states;
2. international custom, as evidence of a general practice accepted as law;
3. the general principles of law recognized by civilized nations;
4. subject to the provisions of Article 59, judicial decisions and the teachings of the most highly qualified publicists of the various nations, as subsidiary means for the determination of rules of law. .

Most Respectfully,
R

Parry right.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Arrest and Charge 'vs' Criminal Proceedings
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

PREFACE: I am not a lawyer and I am not practicing law. This is a debate on civics.
BLUF: You are totally lost on these subjects.

So there is no due process. It is just name calling.

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The Arrest, Arraignment, and Trial system is not exactly the same everywhere but is similar in most Republics. The designation of a criminal offense is (generally speaking) a legislative process. The creation of a criminal code with the elements of the offense is largely legislative. Challenges are possible. In 2017, the Court of Justice - heard the case --- Council of the European Union vs Hamas, European Commission on the designation of HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement).

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Judgment of the Court (Grand Chamber) of 26 July 2017 — Council of the European Union v Hamas, European Commission
(Case C-79/15 P) (1)
(Appeal — Common foreign and security policy — Fight against terrorism — Restrictive measures against certain persons and entities — Freezing of funds — Common Position 2001/931/CFSP — Article 1(4) and (6) — Regulation (EC) No 2580/2001 — Article 2(3) — Retention of an organization on the list of persons, groups, and entities involved in terrorist acts — Conditions — Factual basis of the decisions to freeze funds — Decision taken by a competent authority — Obligation to state reasons)
(2017/C 309/04)
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That is not exactly criminal "Due Processes" → but more of a Tort Case...

Again, you are absent your due diligence in fact-checking. Your question is mixing apples and oranges.
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Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

The Islamic terrorists are being retired.

Israeli airstrike kills Islamic Jihad commander in Gaza

Israeli warplanes unleashed another wave of heavy airstrikes on the Gaza Strip Monday, destroying about 60 miles of militant tunnels and the homes of nine Hamas commanders — and also killing …

nypost.com

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: In General an Open Commentary
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
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As it normally is with the Hostile Arab Palestinians (Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric Fighters), pro-Arab Palestinian associates, and the anti-Israel advocates (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism, Al-Awda, Council on American-Islamic Relations, Friends of Sabeel-North America, If Americans Knew, International Solidarity Movement, Jewish Voice for Peace, Muslim American Society, Students for Justice in Palestine, US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation) the classic complaint is that the Arab Palestinians are being deprived of some "right" or special "privilege" that is due them, that must be given to them on a silver platter.

They whip out these largely non-binding and ceremonial Resolutions they generate annually, between October and January, that regurgitate the same points that they use in attempts to justify acts of terrorism and/or violations of Customary and International Humanitarian Law. When directly requested to supply a specific binding legal document or covenant that actually has some actual law behind it, they cannot. Instead, they recycle the same non-binding material over and over again.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

World reacts after Israeli forces wound hundreds in Al-Aqsa raid​

 

[P F Tinmore]

pro-Arab Palestinian associates, and the anti-Israel advocates (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism, Al-Awda, Council on American-Islamic Relations, Friends of Sabeel-North America, If Americans Knew, International Solidarity Movement, Jewish Voice for Peace, Muslim American Society, Students for Justice in Palestine, US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation)

You forgot Code Pink, The Rachael Corry Foundation, and many of the smaller groups.

 

[P F Tinmore]

As it normally is with the Hostile Arab Palestinians (Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric Fighters),

WOW, trope city.

 

[P F Tinmore]

They whip out these largely non-binding and ceremonial Resolutions they generate annually, between October and January, that regurgitate the same points that they use in attempts to justify acts of terrorism and/or violations of Customary and International Humanitarian Law.

Ooooo, you played the terrorist card.

Good boy.

 

[Hollie]

Ooooo, you played the terrorist card.

Good boy.

You played the, ''watch me flail my Pom Poms for Islamic terrorism'', card.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Arrest and Charge 'vs' Criminal Proceedings
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

PREFACE: I am not a lawyer and I am not practicing law. This is a debate on civics.
BLUF: You are totally lost on these subjects.


(COMMENT)
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The Arrest, Arraignment, and Trial system is not exactly the same everywhere but is similar in most Republics. The designation of a criminal offense is (generally speaking) a legislative process. The creation of a criminal code with the elements of the offense is largely legislative. Challenges are possible. In 2017, the Court of Justice - heard the case --- Council of the European Union vs Hamas, European Commission on the designation of HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement).

Judgment of the Court (Grand Chamber) of 26 July 2017 — Council of the European Union v Hamas, European Commission
(Case C-79/15 P) (1)
(Appeal — Common foreign and security policy — Fight against terrorism — Restrictive measures against certain persons and entities — Freezing of funds — Common Position 2001/931/CFSP — Article 1(4) and (6) — Regulation (EC) No 2580/2001 — Article 2(3) — Retention of an organization on the list of persons, groups, and entities involved in terrorist acts — Conditions — Factual basis of the decisions to freeze funds — Decision taken by a competent authority — Obligation to state reasons)
(2017/C 309/04)
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That is not exactly criminal "Due Processes" → but more of a Tort Case...

Again, you are absent your due diligence in fact-checking. Your question is mixing apples and oranges.
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Most Respectfully,
R

No criteria. No due process. Just name calling.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You played the, ''watch me flail my Pom Poms for Islamic terrorism'', card.

Another terrorist card.

Good girl.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Another terrorist card.

Good girl.

Don't call Palestinian terrorists....terrorists. It hurtz their feelz.

 

[Hollie]

Another terrorist card.

Good girl.

Another of your usual cut and paste slogans.

 

[Hollie]

No criteria. No due process. Just name calling.

What due process? Tell us about the due process in sharia law. Tell us about due process as a component of islamic terrorism.

 

[P F Tinmore]

What due process? Tell us about the due process in sharia law. Tell us about due process as a component of islamic terrorism.

Deflection.

 

[Hollie]

Deflection.

Why?