Alfie Evans deserves the chance to fight for his life -- Why is the UK determined to let him die?

[Synthaholic]

What facts did the snarky twat get wrong? Hint: none!

he said the government isn't involved, yet healthcare in the UK is the government.

False. It’s funded by the government.

Bullshit.

Funded AND controlled by the government makes them part of it.

Figures a cocksucker like you would take the side of the State over the parents.

How would letting this kid go to Italy harm the NHS or the British government exactly?

I posted the court decisions. Multiple courts. I can’t force you to learn.

The court sided with the doctors, i.e. the government.

You really think it was the actual treatment doctors pushing this and not the bureaucrats at NHS pushing it?

Talk about being a fucking naive twat.

You’re in the fact-free zone, clueless and proud of it.

 

[martybegan]

he said the government isn't involved, yet healthcare in the UK is the government.

False. It’s funded by the government.

Bullshit.

Funded AND controlled by the government makes them part of it.

Figures a cocksucker like you would take the side of the State over the parents.

How would letting this kid go to Italy harm the NHS or the British government exactly?

I posted the court decisions. Multiple courts. I can’t force you to learn.

The court sided with the doctors, i.e. the government.

You really think it was the actual treatment doctors pushing this and not the bureaucrats at NHS pushing it?

Talk about being a fucking naive twat.

You’re in the fact-free zone, clueless and proud of it.

and all you do is spout off about some anonymous twat and some British legal proceedings without talking about the actual facts of the matter.

Big bad NHS says parents can't take their own fucking kid for treatment the NHS had decided isn't "right" for the kid, so let the kid die.

It won't cost NHS a fucking penny, just their pride of the kid gets better.

 

[Billy_Bob]

DEATH PANELS...

This is socialized medicine at its worst...

Fuck the UK health system... And this is what liberals want to do with us...

COME ON PRESIDENT TRUMP TELL THESE SOCIALIST PUKES THAT WE WONT STAND BY AND WATCH THE UK KILL A CHILD OUTRIGHT AND DENY THIS CHILD HIS LIFE...

 

[Billy_Bob]

Educate yourselves, dumbasses.

The Secret Barrister on Twitter

yes some snarky twat on twitter is a "source"

And the doctors ARE the government in England.

This is what Obama and Democrats are trying to force on us... This is why socialized medicine must die in this country.... The parents don't even have the rights to THEIR CHILD... Fuck the UK and your dumb ass..

 

[ChrisL]

So the hospital is basically holding this child a hostage until he dies and NOT giving his parents any rights to second, third or fourth opinions? This is really very wrong, sad and tragic. There are sometimes medical anomalies that happen and they cannot predict with CERTAINTY what kind of outcome this child would have to some other forms of therapy.

 

[ChrisL]

Some very COLD hearted people, that is for sure. If it was my child, I would probably kidnap my child out of the hospital and flee with him to try and save his life. I cannot believe that people are here defending the government holding this child a hostage in the hospital against his parents will until his imminent death and are denying his parents the right to seek out other opinions and other alternative treatments. That is rotten to the core.

 

[ChrisL]

What facts did the snarky twat get wrong? Hint: none!

he said the government isn't involved, yet healthcare in the UK is the government.

False. It’s funded by the government.

Bullshit.

Funded AND controlled by the government makes them part of it.

Figures a cocksucker like you would take the side of the State over the parents.

How would letting this kid go to Italy harm the NHS or the British government exactly?

I posted the court decisions. Multiple courts. I can’t force you to learn.

The court sided with the doctors, i.e. the government.

You really think it was the actual treatment doctors pushing this and not the bureaucrats at NHS pushing it?

Talk about being a fucking naive twat.

That is the new leftist slogan, Trust the Government for all of your needs! Ironic, huh?

 

[ChrisL]

Basically, this sets a precedence for you not being in control of your own medical decisions anymore, or your own life and death. That will be decided by the hospital/doctors in charge and even government appointed judges and the government FUNDED healthcare system bureaucrats. Trust them. They have your BEST interests at heart. Lol.

 

[martybegan]

he said the government isn't involved, yet healthcare in the UK is the government.

False. It’s funded by the government.

Bullshit.

Funded AND controlled by the government makes them part of it.

Figures a cocksucker like you would take the side of the State over the parents.

How would letting this kid go to Italy harm the NHS or the British government exactly?

I posted the court decisions. Multiple courts. I can’t force you to learn.

The court sided with the doctors, i.e. the government.

You really think it was the actual treatment doctors pushing this and not the bureaucrats at NHS pushing it?

Talk about being a fucking naive twat.

That is the new leftist slogan, Trust the Government for all of your needs! Ironic, huh?

I can't imagine being put through what those people are going through and not beating the shit out of whoever is pulling the strings with regards to the legal process.

 

[ChrisL]

I feel kind of sorry for the people in the UK. They are incrementally losing their rights as human beings to their government.

 

[ChrisL]

False. It’s funded by the government.

Bullshit.

Funded AND controlled by the government makes them part of it.

Figures a cocksucker like you would take the side of the State over the parents.

How would letting this kid go to Italy harm the NHS or the British government exactly?

I posted the court decisions. Multiple courts. I can’t force you to learn.

The court sided with the doctors, i.e. the government.

You really think it was the actual treatment doctors pushing this and not the bureaucrats at NHS pushing it?

Talk about being a fucking naive twat.

That is the new leftist slogan, Trust the Government for all of your needs! Ironic, huh?

I can't imagine being put through what those people are going through and not beating the shit out of whoever is pulling the strings with regards to the legal process.

When it came to my child's life or death, I might even consider taking my child out of the hospital with or without permission and boarding a plane and telling them to just fuck off. Unfortunately, the child needs a high level of medical care continuously and may not survive a plane flight. He would probably need the life support to be transported and make it. Poor little guy, still fighting for life.

 

[BlackSand]

You folks who THINK you know how the Commonwealth works, better find the most vulnerable in society and ask their opinions. They don't even know what is wrong with this baby yet and they suggest to allow him to die, "with dignity". Easy for someone living to say! Italy even offered to take him, offer him full citizenship in an attempt to save him and the British government make the decision on behalf of the parents. "NO. He cannot leave".

Americans by and large are clueless, and in time, once the massive global push to inject immense global control into your system, this will be the future you stare down on a regular basis and across many private scenarios you don't experience today.

Alfie Evans deserves the chance to fight for his life -- Why is the UK determined to let him die?

In a move that has baffled people around the world, Britain is engaged in a fight with Tom Evans and Kate James to deny life support to their hospitalized 23-month-old son, Alfie – condemning him to death, even though the toddler’s parents want desperately to keep him alive.

Two days ago, Pope Francis stepped in and offered Alfie care in Italy. The Italian government went as far as granting citizenship to Alfie in an attempt to have him immediately transferred to Italy.

But the British hospital where Alife is staying refused to allow the transfer and the parents sought judgement from the Family Division of the High Court in Manchester. A judge ruledTuesday that the toddler, who was taken off life support on Monday, is too ill to travel to Vatican City in Rome for treatment.

Alfie’s parents appealed that ruling to Britain’s Court of Appeal, but on Wednesday three judges on that that court rejected the parent’s request to overturn the lower court ruling denying the transfer of Alfie.

Socialized healthcare ... Where the value of your life is dependent on your market value to society ...

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[ChrisL]

The poor parents. They are going to live with overwhelming guilt that they were prevented to try and save their child's life at all costs. People who haven't lost a child don't understand how difficult it really is to live with.

 

[Synthaholic]

and all you do is spout off about some anonymous twat and some British legal proceedings without talking about the actual facts of the matter.

 

[martybegan]

and all you do is spout off about some anonymous twat and some British legal proceedings without talking about the actual facts of the matter.

Your lack of response is noted.

 

[Synthaholic]

Do I need to respond to imbeciles?

The "British legal proceedings" contain ALL of the actual facts of the matter, moron.

 

[martybegan]

Do I need to respond to imbeciles?

The "British legal proceedings" contain ALL of the actual facts of the matter, moron.

No, they contain excuses from one part of the government giving cover to another part of the government.

Universal health care in action.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Opinion: Americans using the Alfie Evans case to criticise the NHS are deluded about the realities of the US's healthcare system

In all the many gut-wrenching aspects of the all-too-public case of Alfie Evans, one of the most sickening is exploitation of the tragedy by foreign politicians for their own selfish ideological ends. Exploitation, that is, made all the more objectionable for being based in a most profound ignorance about the medical and judicial systems of another country.

Ive rarely seen such a level of ignorance and cynical point scoring. Shame on all of you.

 

[Political Junky]

Alfie Evans dies after withdrawal of life support

Alfie had been in a semi-vegetative state and scans of his brain had shown that almost all of it had been destroyed. Judges had agreed with doctors that further treatment would be futile and there was no hope of him getting better.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Alfie Evans dies after withdrawal of life support

Alfie had been in a semi-vegetative state and scans of his brain had shown that almost all of it had been destroyed. Judges had agreed with doctors that further treatment would be futile and there was no hope of him getting better.

There was no cure and no treatment that could help him.

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