Alan Simpson Calls GOP Refusal To Raise Revenue ‘Absolute Bullshit’

Well just how does Allen propose that we're going to get 14.3 TRILLION dollars in red ink now with another 64 TRILLION in unfunded liabiities--by simply raising taxes?

Currently 18,000 babyboomers are entering social security/medicare DAILY and this will continue for the next 15 YEARS. Resulting in $534,000 per household owed to the federal government to pay this tab.

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1 billion dollars $100.00 bills stacked on pallets.

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1 trillion dollars $100.00 bills stacked on pallets. NOTE: How small the man is in this chart.

Currently the Federal Government is borrowing .43 cents on every dollar it spends--and this moron wants to raise the credit card limit--so they can BORROW and SPEND more money.

Now for you liberals--when you can figure out who you're going to tax the crap out of to get 74 of the trillion dollar chart--let us know--which class you'll be picking on.

Half the battle is won by ending the Bush tax cuts:

In addition, Burman said, extending the top Bush-era tax rates — which would deny the Treasury an estimated $679.6 billion over 10 years, deepening the federal debt — could help push up interest rates. That might "have a very deleterious effect on investment and hiring decisions of all businesses, including entrepreneurs," Burman said.


Read more: Would ending Bush tax cuts hurt small businesses? | McClatchy

And as for Social Security


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$679.6 billion over 10 years is half the battle? That won't even cover half of the deficit this year. LOL!


Do you think this deficit magically appeared when Obama took office, chuckles? It was ACCUMULATED VIA 8 YEARS OF REAGANOMICS ON STEROIDS COURTESY OF THE SHRUB & COMPANY. So it sure as hell isn't going to disappear overnight. Got it now, chuckles.
 
The only spending the American Marxists Party wants to cut is the defense budget, the one spending actually authorized under the Constitution.

And one that can be altered by Congress, as authorized under the Constitution.

But hey, Let's just keep extending those tax cuts to millionaires and tax breaks to corporations, as they created such a boon in the job market over the last ten years! :doubt:
 
The only spending the American Marxists Party wants to cut is the defense budget, the one spending actually authorized under the Constitution.

And one that can be altered by Congress, as authorized under the Constitution.

But hey, Let's just keep extending those tax cuts to millionaires and tax breaks to corporations, as they created such a boon in the job market over the last ten years! :doubt:

No, Dear, under my version of the Constitution that would require an "Amendment". Can you say "Amendment"?

Marxist scum
 
I wonder how the left justifies the lack of concern over the deficit? Clearly all that interest on the debt could help millions of people and support many programs, if only we didn't have such a high debt. Every individual has to live within their means or go bankrupt. Nations are no different. It seems hateful to the poor and middle class to burden them with a future filled with huge interest payments and few services. What type of cruel person would wish that on others, particularly those who never received any of the services?

WTF are you going on about? The neocon gods in Congress that YOU support don't give a damn about the deficit...THEY were the ones that DID NOT put two wars on the budget, passed a prescription drug plan without a definitive way to pay for it, and gave tax cuts to the rich and tax breaks to corporations that have to date created NO jobs. THEY are the ones that have stonewalled ANY attempt by the Dems to pass legislation to address the situation, and even when Obama and the Dems AGREED to their proposals, they went filibuster crazy because it would appear to the American public that Obama and the Dems did something positive.

The GOP hierarchy stated in no uncertain terms that their primary objective is to make Obama a one term President in order to return to the Shrub years of GOP power in gov't....and by all indications, that means public be damned.
 
How many net jobs were lost while Bush was in office? ALL AFTER he lowered taxes most on the rich.

The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years
 
The only spending the American Marxists Party wants to cut is the defense budget, the one spending actually authorized under the Constitution.

And one that can be altered by Congress, as authorized under the Constitution.

But hey, Let's just keep extending those tax cuts to millionaires and tax breaks to corporations, as they created such a boon in the job market over the last ten years! :doubt:

No, Dear, under my version of the Constitution that would require an "Amendment". Can you say "Amendment"?

Marxist scum

Can you READ the Constitution, Frankie? Article 1, Section 8.

Know WTF you're talking about before your fingers hit the keys, Frankie...it'll make you look less of a babbling neocon kiss ass.
 
I wonder how the left justifies the lack of concern over the deficit? Clearly all that interest on the debt could help millions of people and support many programs, if only we didn't have such a high debt. Every individual has to live within their means or go bankrupt. Nations are no different. It seems hateful to the poor and middle class to burden them with a future filled with huge interest payments and few services. What type of cruel person would wish that on others, particularly those who never received any of the services?

WTF are you going on about? The neocon gods in Congress that YOU support don't give a damn about the deficit...THEY were the ones that DID NOT put two wars on the budget, passed a prescription drug plan without a definitive way to pay for it, and gave tax cuts to the rich and tax breaks to corporations that have to date created NO jobs. THEY are the ones that have stonewalled ANY attempt by the Dems to pass legislation to address the situation, and even when Obama and the Dems AGREED to their proposals, they went filibuster crazy because it would appear to the American public that Obama and the Dems did something positive.

The GOP hierarchy stated in no uncertain terms that their primary objective is to make Obama a one term President in order to return to the Shrub years of GOP power in gov't....and by all indications, that means public be damned.

We are now up to SIX wars, none of them paid for and the cost of the prescription drug program will skyrocket once Obama gets his way to close the "donut hole." Nobody filibustered Obama when he agreed to extend the Bush tax cuts for two more years. One more year of Obama and he will increase the debt almost as much as Bush did in 8 years.

And Bush created an anemic 3 million (net) jobs in 8 years. How many jobs has Obama created so far?
 
Do you think this deficit magically appeared when Obama took office, chuckles? It was ACCUMULATED VIA 8 YEARS OF REAGANOMICS ON STEROIDS COURTESY OF THE SHRUB & COMPANY. So it sure as hell isn't going to disappear overnight. Got it now, chuckles.

When you figure out the difference between the yearly budget deficit and the National Debt we can talk. Until then, you are merely spouting partisan nonsense.
 
Hence the push to pass both in the same piece of legislation.

BTw... I missed it.... where were these "new taxes Now". Obama kept the Bush tax cuts in effect... So once again... you're fucking liars.

The new taxes now were during Reagan's first term and in the budget deal of 1990.
Democrats promised $3 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax hikes. Sound familiar?
After the tax increases took place, the lying Dems never followed thru with the spending cuts.


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Oh... 30 years ago... and 20 years ago. So let's see, it's OK for you guys to dig up the past... but we can't rightfully blame Bush for the Wall Street Bailout, because "he's no longer in office"?

OK.. I see how this works... Conservatives can say anything they want, Progressives get lambasted for doing the same. Sorry.. I'm not playing along.
 
And one that can be altered by Congress, as authorized under the Constitution.

But hey, Let's just keep extending those tax cuts to millionaires and tax breaks to corporations, as they created such a boon in the job market over the last ten years! :doubt:

No, Dear, under my version of the Constitution that would require an "Amendment". Can you say "Amendment"?

Marxist scum

Can you READ the Constitution, Frankie? Article 1, Section 8.

Know WTF you're talking about before your fingers hit the keys, Frankie...it'll make you look less of a babbling neocon kiss ass.

"To raise and support an Army..." right. Where do you think you went wrong, Komrade?
 
I wonder how the left justifies the lack of concern over the deficit? Clearly all that interest on the debt could help millions of people and support many programs, if only we didn't have such a high debt. Every individual has to live within their means or go bankrupt. Nations are no different. It seems hateful to the poor and middle class to burden them with a future filled with huge interest payments and few services. What type of cruel person would wish that on others, particularly those who never received any of the services?

WTF are you going on about? The neocon gods in Congress that YOU support don't give a damn about the deficit...THEY were the ones that DID NOT put two wars on the budget, passed a prescription drug plan without a definitive way to pay for it, and gave tax cuts to the rich and tax breaks to corporations that have to date created NO jobs. THEY are the ones that have stonewalled ANY attempt by the Dems to pass legislation to address the situation, and even when Obama and the Dems AGREED to their proposals, they went filibuster crazy because it would appear to the American public that Obama and the Dems did something positive.

The GOP hierarchy stated in no uncertain terms that their primary objective is to make Obama a one term President in order to return to the Shrub years of GOP power in gov't....and by all indications, that means public be damned.

We are now up to SIX wars, none of them paid for and the cost of the prescription drug program will skyrocket once Obama gets his way to close the "donut hole." Nobody filibustered Obama when he agreed to extend the Bush tax cuts for two more years. One more year of Obama and he will increase the debt almost as much as Bush did in 8 years.

And Bush created an anemic 3 million (net) jobs in 8 years. How many jobs has Obama created so far?


Please provide the facts to support your claim that we are up to 6 wars that have not been paid for.

Please provide evidence from the CBC or the GAO that supports your claim that Obama's proposal's would sky rocket the prescription drug program...and please ADMIT that the Shrub & company let the insurance and pharmaceutical companies write that plan without a way to pay for it.

Please REMEMBER that Obama's budget INCLUDES two wars, a prescription drug plan unpaid for, tax cuts and breaks that the Shrub & company DID NOT FULLY INCORPORATE.

Yes, Obama wussed out and extended the tax cuts....cowering to the possible threat of another round of filibusters, of which the GOP has been so fond of the last two years.

Oh, and bragging about the Shrubs 3 million jobs in 8 years is a joke, considering Clinton created 23 million in his two terms and his father did about the same in just 4 years.

Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ
 
How many net jobs were lost while Bush was in office? ALL AFTER he lowered taxes most on the rich.

The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years

TRY to address your quotes to people who actually ask the question.

And TRY to get your facts right, and use actual links, other than something on Fox News that they made up, and you don't even bother to cite.

Here:

This is how you should post, not just something coming out of your rear end.

"His job-creation record won’t look much better. The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton‘s administration and only slightly better than President George H.W. Bush did in his four years in office."

Article title:

"Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record"

Google it or follow THIS link.

Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ

"Because the size of the economy and labor force varies, we also calculate in percentage terms how much the total payroll count expanded under each president. The current President Bush, once taking account how long he’s been in office, shows the worst track record for job creation since the government began keeping records."

How do you like THEM apples? Put the figures in context, along with history, and some other facts, makes you sound a lot less informed, otherwise.

Just checking to see if you recognized your own statement:

How many net jobs were lost while Bush was in office? Post 101

All I was doing was answering your question. And, it appears to me that you don't know the difference between net jobs LOST and net jobs gained.

And, WSJ stands for Wall Street Journal, not Fox news.
 
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Fmr. GOP Sen. Alan Simpson Calls Republican Refusal To Raise Revenue ‘Absolute Bullshit’

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Former GOP Sen. Alan Simpson blasted his intransigent GOP colleagues on the Hill today for failing to reach a deal on the deficit. The blunt-talking co-chairman of President Obama’s bipartisan fiscal reform commission slammed Republicans for kowtowing to Americans for Tax Reform head Grover Norquist (“Republicans can’t be in thrall to him”) and pushed Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner to stand fast on the August 2 deadline.

Surveying the lay of the current fiscal land, Simpson said, “We’re at 15 percent revenue, and historically it’s been closer to 20 percent.”

He added, “We’ve never had a war without a tax, and now we’ve got two. … Absolute bullshit.”

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The Dems have to cut and shrink government, the Pubs have to give up the rich.

That is how the people see it, and so far the GOP is held hostage by the corporate fascists, and the GOP will pay a horrible price for it.

Whatever kid...is this really what you believe?
ONLY the Republicans are held hostage by corporations?
Dream on.

No.... not only the GOP is held Hostage... No one believes that. But the GOP makes no bones about who they are for. They campaign on it every election. The Dems do it because they have to compete( and some individuals in the Party are no different than the GOP) with the Corporate Sponsored Party when it comes to campaign funds.

I know... you are going to say... wadda bout da Unions??? True.. Unions support primarily Dems... However, They are collecting their money from only 7% of the workforce and(at least in Pennsylvania) the PAC money is separate from regular Union Dues and is a voluntary donation. So, it's LESS than 7% of the workforce... Donating $2/pay(that's what ours is).

Yes... I know, Unions are the boogeyman according to the Shiite Republican Code. But they are in fact, small potatoes compared to the Conglomerate.
 
WTF are you going on about? The neocon gods in Congress that YOU support don't give a damn about the deficit...THEY were the ones that DID NOT put two wars on the budget, passed a prescription drug plan without a definitive way to pay for it, and gave tax cuts to the rich and tax breaks to corporations that have to date created NO jobs. THEY are the ones that have stonewalled ANY attempt by the Dems to pass legislation to address the situation, and even when Obama and the Dems AGREED to their proposals, they went filibuster crazy because it would appear to the American public that Obama and the Dems did something positive.

The GOP hierarchy stated in no uncertain terms that their primary objective is to make Obama a one term President in order to return to the Shrub years of GOP power in gov't....and by all indications, that means public be damned.

We are now up to SIX wars, none of them paid for and the cost of the prescription drug program will skyrocket once Obama gets his way to close the "donut hole." Nobody filibustered Obama when he agreed to extend the Bush tax cuts for two more years. One more year of Obama and he will increase the debt almost as much as Bush did in 8 years.

And Bush created an anemic 3 million (net) jobs in 8 years. How many jobs has Obama created so far?


Please provide the facts to support your claim that we are up to 6 wars that have not been paid for.

Please provide evidence from the CBC or the GAO that supports your claim that Obama's proposal's would sky rocket the prescription drug program...and please ADMIT that the Shrub & company let the insurance and pharmaceutical companies write that plan without a way to pay for it.

Please REMEMBER that Obama's budget INCLUDES two wars, a prescription drug plan unpaid for, tax cuts and breaks that the Shrub & company DID NOT FULLY INCORPORATE.

Yes, Obama wussed out and extended the tax cuts....cowering to the possible threat of another round of filibusters, of which the GOP has been so fond of the last two years.

Oh, and bragging about the Shrubs 3 million jobs in 8 years is a joke, considering Clinton created 23 million in his two terms and his father did about the same in just 4 years.

Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ

We have a $1.6 Trillion deficit! WHAT THE FUCK HAS BEEN PAID FOR?
 
No, Dear, under my version of the Constitution that would require an "Amendment". Can you say "Amendment"?

Marxist scum

Can you READ the Constitution, Frankie? Article 1, Section 8.

Know WTF you're talking about before your fingers hit the keys, Frankie...it'll make you look less of a babbling neocon kiss ass.

"To raise and support an Army..." right. Where do you think you went wrong, Komrade?

From Article 1, Section 8

Powers of Congress

The Congress shall have Power


To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;



Once again, the chronology of the posts shows Frankie to be a complete and utter neocon fool.
 
Do you think this deficit magically appeared when Obama took office, chuckles? It was ACCUMULATED VIA 8 YEARS OF REAGANOMICS ON STEROIDS COURTESY OF THE SHRUB & COMPANY. So it sure as hell isn't going to disappear overnight. Got it now, chuckles.

When you figure out the difference between the yearly budget deficit and the National Debt we can talk. Until then, you are merely spouting partisan nonsense.

Too Tall, you got your ass handed to you on this page. Stop reading Fox and read all the material, and then you will stop looking as foolish as Frank.

You, unlike Frank, are not mentally ill. You can still learn, but drop the partisanship.
 
We are now up to SIX wars, none of them paid for and the cost of the prescription drug program will skyrocket once Obama gets his way to close the "donut hole." Nobody filibustered Obama when he agreed to extend the Bush tax cuts for two more years. One more year of Obama and he will increase the debt almost as much as Bush did in 8 years.

And Bush created an anemic 3 million (net) jobs in 8 years. How many jobs has Obama created so far?


Please provide the facts to support your claim that we are up to 6 wars that have not been paid for.

Please provide evidence from the CBC or the GAO that supports your claim that Obama's proposal's would sky rocket the prescription drug program...and please ADMIT that the Shrub & company let the insurance and pharmaceutical companies write that plan without a way to pay for it.

Please REMEMBER that Obama's budget INCLUDES two wars, a prescription drug plan unpaid for, tax cuts and breaks that the Shrub & company DID NOT FULLY INCORPORATE.

Yes, Obama wussed out and extended the tax cuts....cowering to the possible threat of another round of filibusters, of which the GOP has been so fond of the last two years.

Oh, and bragging about the Shrubs 3 million jobs in 8 years is a joke, considering Clinton created 23 million in his two terms and his father did about the same in just 4 years.

Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ

We have a $1.6 Trillion deficit! WHAT THE FUCK HAS BEEN PAID FOR?

The discussion is how TO PAY for it, you blithering neocon numbskull! Are you that fucking stupid to think this happened in just the last 2 years or that we can pay it off and still function as a country overnight? Get your act together before your fingers hit the keys, Frankie...makes you look less foolish.
 
Fmr. GOP Sen. Alan Simpson Calls Republican Refusal To Raise Revenue ‘Absolute Bullshit’

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Former GOP Sen. Alan Simpson blasted his intransigent GOP colleagues on the Hill today for failing to reach a deal on the deficit. The blunt-talking co-chairman of President Obama’s bipartisan fiscal reform commission slammed Republicans for kowtowing to Americans for Tax Reform head Grover Norquist (“Republicans can’t be in thrall to him”) and pushed Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner to stand fast on the August 2 deadline.

Surveying the lay of the current fiscal land, Simpson said, “We’re at 15 percent revenue, and historically it’s been closer to 20 percent.”

He added, “We’ve never had a war without a tax, and now we’ve got two. … Absolute bullshit.”

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Well just how does Allen propose that we're going to get 14.3 TRILLION dollars in red ink now with another 64 TRILLION in unfunded liabiities--by simply raising taxes?

Currently 18,000 babyboomers are entering social security/medicare DAILY and this will continue for the next 15 YEARS. Resulting in $534,000 per household owed to the federal government to pay this tab.

View attachment 13985

1 billion dollars $100.00 bills stacked on pallets.

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1 trillion dollars $100.00 bills stacked on pallets. NOTE: How small the man is in this chart.

Currently the Federal Government is borrowing .43 cents on every dollar it spends--and this moron wants to raise the credit card limit--so they can BORROW and SPEND more money.

Now for you liberals--when you can figure out who you're going to tax the crap out of to get 74 of the trillion dollar chart--let us know--which class you'll be picking on.



That's the problem with you "little brains". You think we need to cut all $14.3T NOW!!! That it CAN'T be done over time with as little pain as possible. Those Propaganda wardens you have on AM radio are there for one simple reason... TO SCARE THE FUCK OUT OF YOU!

Funny how most of America see a serious need for deficit reduction... but the irrational fear has left most of them. They know we can't abandon our weakest citizens and give our strongest more breaks. They know that Taxes alone ain't gonna cut it.

But you guys are trying to do brain surgery with a machete. Cuts have to be done in an intelligent and compassionate manner. Sure, the Corporate Sponsored Media on AM Radio and FOX aren't going to tell you that, because the people that own and control them don't want that. They are going to tell you that the rich should be given more and more and the cuts need to come from SS, Medicare, Welfare, Family Planning, etc... anything that doesn't help them make money. Do you really think that Defense is off the table in their eyes because we actually need to spend 8X the amount of our nearest Competitor? Hell no.... it's off the table because it makes their cronies money... building planes, tanks, guidance systems, ships, artillery, guns, etc.

All those other programs that they hate so much... only helps people.. .like you and I. That's why they can't stand them... they don't help them. Believe me... if they made money... there would be plenty of funds available for them.
 
Do you think this deficit magically appeared when Obama took office, chuckles? It was ACCUMULATED VIA 8 YEARS OF REAGANOMICS ON STEROIDS COURTESY OF THE SHRUB & COMPANY. So it sure as hell isn't going to disappear overnight. Got it now, chuckles.

When you figure out the difference between the yearly budget deficit and the National Debt we can talk. Until then, you are merely spouting partisan nonsense.

You're STILL trying to pass off some half assed conclusion while pretending that the tax breaks and cuts, the off the books wars and prescription drug plan were/are NOT major contributions to the current problem....remember genius, the Shrub inherited a SURPLUS.

The only partisan hack here is YOU, my Too Tall neocon parrot.
 
The Bush policies, from tax cuts to his wars to the big government programs, have caused the mess, and the rest of us are trying to dig out of it, and then folks like Too Tall won't admit their errors. That's OK. We will admit it for them, and hold their feet, metaphorically, to the fires of reality.
 

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