Alabama university pauses IVF care after frozen embryos deemed ‘children’

[Tommy Tainant]

Alabama university pauses IVF care after frozen embryos deemed âchildrenâ

University of Alabama at Birmingham says state’s supreme court ruling could expose doctors and patients to criminal charges

www.theguardian.com

We all know couples who have gone through IVF. Its a tortuous and sometimes heartbreaking process.

And now the Alabama remedials have made it even harder for people to have children. these lawmakers are people who suck grass for comfort.

This insanity has gone too far.

Shameful.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Alabama university pauses IVF care after frozen embryos deemed âchildrenâ

University of Alabama at Birmingham says state’s supreme court ruling could expose doctors and patients to criminal charges

www.theguardian.com

We all know couples who have gone through IVF. Its a tortuous and sometimes heartbreaking process.

And now the Alabama remedials have made it even harder for people to have children. these lawmakers are people who suck grass for comfort.

This insanity has gone too far.

Shameful.

State rights and none of your goddamn business limey.

 

[rightwinger]

The problem is that other Red States will jump on the bandwagon

 

[rightwinger]

State rights and none of your goddamn business limey.

Why do States Rights always end up restricting individual rights?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The problem is that other Red States will jump on the bandwagon

And ?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Why do States Rights always end up restricting individual rights?

That would be the part where it's none of your fucking business. If the people in those States don't like the way things are going they will vote out the politicians.

 

[initforme]

The unfertilized embryos are children? And why would they stop something that might result in life? Boy they're all mixed up. Knuckle draggers.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

WEF/Democrats want to experiment with human eggs.

Protect children from democrats America!

 

[initforme]

WEF/Democrats want to experiment with human eggs.

Protect children from democrats America!

As a Christian I can agree. But I'd include Republicans as well.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

As a Christian I can agree. But I'd include Republicans as well.

In America today there are 2 sides. One side trans's up kids, sacrifices babies, and does human experiments, and the other side doesn't.

What side you want?

 

[initforme]

In America today there are 2 sides. One side trans's up kids, sacrifices babies, and does human experiments, and the other.

What side you want?

Neither. I want to be left alone by the two corrupt hypocritical cults. I hope to be a thorn.

 

[ReinyDays]

Why do States Rights always end up restricting individual rights?

Either the State has the Right ... or the individual has the Right ... we can't both attend our chosen church AND the State mandated Church, now can we? ... so, is Church a State Right, or an individual Right? ...

What business is it of ours that guns are banned in Scotland ... don't you think the Scots know better than us? ... when they join the United States, we're going to have to get used to gun bans ... simple as that ...

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The issue in the OP is when does life begin? ... and if I understand the controversy here, if the State sets this at conception, all the IVF companies have to shut down ... or maintain life support for all embryos until their 18th birthday ... else it's murder ...

Without abortion, there would be plenty of unwanted children up for adoption ... IVF companies should be shut down until the foster care system is empty ...

 

[initforme]

Are the embryos unfertilized? I can see them heading to birth control now. That would be both morally, ethically, and ignorant to ban it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Either the State has the Right ... or the individual has the Right ... we can't both attend our chosen church AND the State mandated Church, now can we? ... so, is Church a State Right, or an individual Right? ...

What business is it of ours that guns are banned in Scotland ... don't you think the Scots know better than us? ... when they join the United States, we're going to have to get used to gun bans ... simple as that ...

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The issue in the OP is when does life begin? ... and if I understand the controversy here, if the State sets this at conception, all the IVF companies have to shut down ... or maintain life support for all embryos until their 18th birthday ... else it's murder ...

Without abortion, there would be plenty of unwanted children up for adoption ... IVF companies should be shut down until the foster care system is empty ...

Its nobodys business apart from the parents.

 

[Woodznutz]

This brings stupidity to a whole new level.

 

[petro]

The unfertilized embryos are children? And why would they stop something that might result in life? Boy they're all mixed up. Knuckle draggers.

Are the embryos unfertilized? I can see them heading to birth control now. That would be both morally, ethically, and ignorant to ban it.

Perhaps you should actually read the link.

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Those eggs are then extracted, fertilized with sperm to create embryos and then either implanted in the patient’s uterus or frozen for future use.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Those eggs are then extracted, fertilized with sperm to create embryos and then either implanted in the patient’s uterus or frozen for future use.

Not any more in Alabama.

 

[Blues Man]

So what's the next step here?

To force the women who had these embryos frozen to have them all implanted and carry them all to term?

Surely that must be better than leaving all these "children" frozen in a test tube right?

 

[Zincwarrior]

So what's the next step here?

To force the women who had these embryos frozen to have them all implanted and carry them all to term?

Surely that must be better than leaving all these "children" frozen in a test tube right?

Could the eggs be charged with loitering?

 

[petro]

Not any more in Alabama.

It was a decision to stop made by the clinic itself.
Alabama did nothing to stop the process.

This was based on a wrongful death lawsuit because several of a patient's embryos were dropped on the floor.

The process is still legal in every state and it is the clinics that are overreacting because they are afraid of litigation and being held responsible if the fertilized embryo gets destroyed.