Alabama tried it and failed

[Luddly Neddite]

Alabama's Harsh Anti-Immigration Laws

In 2011, Alabama passed one of the harshest anti-immigrant laws in the history of the United States: HB-56, which aimed to make life so miserable for illegal immigrants that they'd opt to leave the state on their own—in other words, "self-deportation."

... three years after the law’s passage, few officials, including the law’s sponsors and those who voted for it, were willing to stand by the laws harsh provisions.

The short video documentary is at the link. Sorry but I can't get it to embed. No matter what your opinion is, this matters to us all.

 

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

Failed like your other topic where you lied about how we won't be able to harvest crops without illegal immigrants?

 

[Wyatt earp]

You do know Alabama is going to come back after their lost to Clemson right?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

What Donald Trump Can Learn from Alabama’s Failed Anti-Immigration Law

• Meredith Hoffman

Jan 21 2016, 3:00pm
The state's experiment in "self-deportation" reveals what might happen if the US sent 11 million undocumented workers home.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

What Donald Trump Can Learn from Alabama’s Failed Anti-Immigration Law
Jan 21 2016, 3:00pm

The state's experiment in "self-deportation" reveals what might happen if the US sent 11 million undocumented workers home.

We all know its impossible to deport 11 million people but there's more to learn here.

 

[Vastator]

Keep dreamin' Dudley... I live in Alabama, and the shit works.

 

[eagle1462010]

Alabama’s Tough Immigration Law Didn’t Fail — It Was Gutted

But that still leaves us with the complaint that enforcing the law hurts agriculture. Shockingly, the best explanation of this complaint comes from the good liberals over at the Center for American Progress. The progressives argue it’s a massive burden for farm conglomerates to follow the law and use E-Verify.

Even worse, these businessmen could even be punished for (gasp!) knowingly breaking the law. Imagine if we lived in a country that forced business owners to follow the law. What a nightmare that would be!

Big agriculture is not above the law and should follow it. If food prices go up because your industry actually has to employ legal labor, then that’s an acceptable cost to bear. The real problem with agriculture and immigration enforcement is not that it “hurts” the business, but that farm companies have built the industry around breaking the law.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The divide between corporate-owned and independent farms was another aspect of the agribusiness that Morton said he could point out. The independent farmers, Morton said, were also keen on speaking out about their needs and the lack of available migrant laborers.


“They’re on the tail end career of four years of frustration and haven’t been able to figure out making a living by doing what they did,” Morton said.

Morton said the Alabama case is a clear example of the backlash than can come from taking rash actions on immigration and that he hopes immigration hardliners will take a step back and look at the potentially negative economic and social effects.


“I think it’s very easy for the people who don’t meet immigrants to think of them as a giant faceless mass that is eating up resources and stealing jobs,” Morton said. “I would say that 99 percent of them are people with good intentions who have struggled so much just to have these small opportunities.”

I believe strongly in family owned and operated businesses. Not everyone is Walmart but that doesn't mean that we cannot or should not support them when we can.

 

[eagle1462010]

Perhaps we should do like Mexifornia and create Sanctuary Cities and OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS.

NOT.......GONNA HAPPEN.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Alabama’s Tough Immigration Law Didn’t Fail — It Was Gutted

But that still leaves us with the complaint that enforcing the law hurts agriculture. Shockingly, the best explanation of this complaint comes from the good liberals over at the Center for American Progress. The progressives argue it’s a massive burden for farm conglomerates to follow the law and use E-Verify.

Even worse, these businessmen could even be punished for (gasp!) knowingly breaking the law. Imagine if we lived in a country that forced business owners to follow the law. What a nightmare that would be!

Big agriculture is not above the law and should follow it. If food prices go up because your industry actually has to employ legal labor, then that’s an acceptable cost to bear. The real problem with agriculture and immigration enforcement is not that it “hurts” the business, but that farm companies have built the industry around breaking the law.

Who even reads this?

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[Wyatt earp]

Perhaps we should do like Mexifornia and create Sanctuary Cities and OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS.

NOT.......GONNA HAPPEN.

What are you even saying?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The US has used migrant farm workers for many many years. And no, not all of them are undocumented. Many are US citizens.

Is there really no way to continue to support family owned and operated farms and do we really want to give up and just hand our land over to big business?

I don't.

Please watch the video and think what this means you your fellow Americans.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Thank you

 

[eagle1462010]

Alabama’s Tough Immigration Law Didn’t Fail — It Was Gutted

But that still leaves us with the complaint that enforcing the law hurts agriculture. Shockingly, the best explanation of this complaint comes from the good liberals over at the Center for American Progress. The progressives argue it’s a massive burden for farm conglomerates to follow the law and use E-Verify.

Even worse, these businessmen could even be punished for (gasp!) knowingly breaking the law. Imagine if we lived in a country that forced business owners to follow the law. What a nightmare that would be!

Big agriculture is not above the law and should follow it. If food prices go up because your industry actually has to employ legal labor, then that’s an acceptable cost to bear. The real problem with agriculture and immigration enforcement is not that it “hurts” the business, but that farm companies have built the industry around breaking the law.

Who even reads this?

I'm from Alabama and read it. Which part of the State took steps to comply with federal immigration laws don't you understand.

And if the farmers, which I know some, just down the road..............want cheap mexican labor they can sponsor them under our immigration laws.

BTW The ones working those fields and nurseries are GASP...........still working here. I see them everyday.............

 

[Papageorgio]

Liberals want to prosecute those that hire illegal immigrants. We need to honor their wish.

 

[eagle1462010]

The US has used migrant farm workers for many many years. And no, not all of them are undocumented. Many are US citizens.

Is there really no way to continue to support family owned and operated farms and do we really want to give up and just hand our land over to big business?

I don't.

Please watch the video and think what this means you your fellow Americans.

And farms and companies can sponsor workers to come here and work so I can see more houses around here with 20 Mexicans living in a 2 bedroom shack up house. Just down the road from me. Right now there is a trend to hire employees through TEMP AGENCIES IN MEXICO via legal means. What's the dang problem with that.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The US has used migrant farm workers for many many years. And no, not all of them are undocumented. Many are US citizens.

Is there really no way to continue to support family owned and operated farms and do we really want to give up and just hand our land over to big business?

I don't.

Please watch the video and think what this means you your fellow Americans.

Get a job

 

[eagle1462010]

Liberals want to prosecute those that hire illegal immigrants. We need to honor their wish.

I agree with that premise...........and E-Verify is a way to hire that is supposed to ensure companies or farms are hiring legal workers.

 

[eagle1462010]

Perhaps we should do like Mexifornia and create Sanctuary Cities and OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS.

NOT.......GONNA HAPPEN.

What are you even saying?

That Alabama is simply ENFORCING FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS.