Al Qaeda Was In Iarq BEFORE The War

no one deserted anyone in Somalia. Clinton pulled our troops out of a civil war after Bush I had gotten us into the mess.

Like I have said: Clinton at least tried to get OBL...Bush ignored him and stopped the program aimed at trying to kill him.... Bush could have given a shit about terrorism before 9/11. Stars Wars, Tax Cuts and Porno - that was his focus.

The troops were begging for help and Clinton ignored them

Being a loyal lib, you ignore that fact
 
The troops were begging for help and Clinton ignored them

Being a loyal lib, you ignore that fact

"begging for help"?

link please.

The mission was started by Bush I as supposedly a "humanitarian" mission.... we quickly found ourselves in the middle of a civil war and Clinton rightfully pulled our boys out before anymore were slaughtered in a fight that was not ours. I only wish Bush II would do the same.
 
The troops wanted reinforcements and they were ignored

Sounds like what is going on in Iraq

and considering that the president vetoed the democrat's plan for Iraq....if "what is going on Iraq" is the troops being ignored, then it is Bush who is doing the ignoring. If you have a problem with that, bitch at him.
 
and considering that the president vetoed the democrat's plan for Iraq....if "what is going on Iraq" is the troops being ignored, then it is Bush who is doing the ignoring. If you have a problem with that, bitch at him.

Dems are doing all they can to make sure the US loses the war - all for their own political gain
 
Dems are doing all they can to make sure the US loses the war - all for their own political gain

We WON the war...numbnuts. The occupation, however, was lost before the invasion ever began due to the failure of the Bush administration to implement State Department post war plans and, contrary to the advice of military commanders, sending in too few troops to maintain the peace once the war was won.
 
as i see it.

President bush wants the surge, Im not sure how most republicans feel about it, but most dems oppose it, and it seems hypocritial to this extent.

dems: not enough troops were sent. Well the minute bush does something to fix that, oh no, thats bad.

I get the war is going bad, but do we give up every time the going gets tough. The fact we left somalia, and lebanon, embolded the terrorists in my judgment and guess what, it was a republican and a democratic president, im shocked :lol:

What i dont understand: and maybe maineman you could enlighten me: how does leaving iraq not embolden the terrorists?.

Im just curious, your the military expert :), so i like having your opinions.

(im not saying stay in iraq for forever, but why a timetable?) anyone?
 
I may be an ignorant fool, but dont we want some kind of democracy in the world?. I know iranians want it.

Tell me where im wrong, i genuinly like hereing what you have to say.

You forget...the FreeRepublic IS his idea of a reliable source as it perfectly coincides with his own half-baked, unrealistic world view.
 
You forget...the FreeRepublic IS his idea of a reliable source as it perfectly coincides with his own half-baked, unrealistic world view.

Only libs would actually think any group of people would not want, or are to stupid, to want freedom

and any source that exposes the truth about Dems, what they say, and what they do - is an unreliable source
 
Only libs would actually think any group of people would not want, or are to stupid, to want freedom

and any source that exposes the truth about Dems, what they say, and what they do - is an unreliable source

still sticking with that dream for a multicultural jeffersonian democracy on the banks of the Euphrates comprised of warring people who have hated one another since the dawn of the last millenium and who were stupidly thrown together by a bunch of ignorant europeans after the first world war?

good for you.
 
still sticking with that dream for a multicultural jeffersonian democracy on the banks of the Euphrates comprised of warring people who have hated one another since the dawn of the last millenium and who were stupidly thrown together by a bunch of ignorant europeans after the first world war?

good for you.

as I said, the arrogrant left thinking people are to stupid to handle freedom
 
as I said, the arrogrant left thinking people are to stupid to handle freedom


I have no doubt that the sunnis in Iraq could become a free and democratic nationstate. I have no doubt that the shiites in Iraq could become a free and democratic nationstate. I have no doubt that the kurds in Iraq could become a free and democratic nationstate.

I only have doubts about the three groups being forced together by the west and expected to become a free and democratic nationstate given the animosity between them that was 800 years old before Columbus landed.
 
I have no doubt that the sunnis in Iraq could become a free and democratic nationstate. I have no doubt that the shiites in Iraq could become a free and democratic nationstate. I have no doubt that the kurds in Iraq could become a free and democratic nationstate.

I only have doubts about the three groups being forced together by the west and expected to become a free and democratic nationstate given the animosity between them that was 800 years old before Columbus landed.

Forced?

They had three national elections and wrote their own Constitution
 

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