Advice for the Tea Party

[DiveCon]

The fact is that I am a Republican centrist who believes in a smaller government and governmental accountability. Divecon and Intense are far right reactionaries that want to grow government, limit civil liberties, and project American hard power overseas. That is what they forget to tell folks.

yeah, far right
LOL
you are an idiot and a proven liar

when i see you actually supporting politicians that support those policies you MIGHT convince me its true

 

[Intense]

The fact is that I am a Republican centrist who believes in a smaller government and governmental accountability. Divecon and Intense are far right reactionaries that want to grow government, limit civil liberties, and project American hard power overseas. That is what they forget to tell folks.

Nice to see you back to normal. You had me worried there for a bit.

I'm actually come up a bit conservative and Libertarian, just so you know. I'm definitely not big on big government. Justice before Liberty, keep the peace. Got it Good. The Graham, McCain, Specter, types make me want to Puke. Obama gives me gas. There are Democrats I would vote for, a select few. I think that we should alway's finish what we start. Don't do things half way.

Your Chrystal ball is misrepresenting just a bit. So should we bring umbrella's to DC? I'll take some pictures of the Korean War Memorial for you.

 

[Intense]

I think that the Silver Spooned ones have really wrecked the Republican Party. The privileged elite used to having everything their way. When compromise corrupts principle, we are better off without it. Some games are just not worth playing.

 

[driveby]

Moon's racism is covert but it is there. He does not like that I am involved with a party that I think has turned very badly during the last thirty years. If he believes that what has happened in those decades in the party is generally for the good, then that is on him and nothing to me. He has given me no reasons why I should not try to be part of the solution in the party, and this is on him as well.

And anyone who lives in the South and denies that quite a few GOP former democrats are not racist is either mentally feeble, absolutely ignorant, or morally malignant. There are no other alternatives. The tactics that most outs a covert racist in the GOP is to call those who disagree with them a racist, or to accuse one who points out right wing racism as being racist. To even suggest that the racialist signs are, without any evidence, not racist are, in fact, racist statements themselves. You all need to grow up and move into the 21st century.

And that is why most of the country laughs at such fools. America is becoming darker, younger, disgusted with old style racism, technological, and I want those folks voting GOP. They are voting against the GOP because it has built a shaky house on sand the last thirty years and is now crumbling.

So you fail yet again to show any racism whatsoever in any of my posts. Gee, I'm so shocked. Of course, that hasn't stopped you from deciding that I'm a racist based on nothing at all. That makes you a liar of the worst caliber. It also makes you a hack, and if you truly are part of the GOP leadership (which I am doubting now considering you've proven that you have no qualms about lying) you should resign immediately and become a Democrat, since you have wholeheartedly embraced their disgusting tactics.



Oh, I almost forgot...go fuck yourself.

Jake is nothing but an Alinsky-lite and what he's trying to accomplish with you is directly out of the Rules for Radicals playbook. Still sticking to the same 40 year old playbook and lying about his political affiliation is weak sauce. Pardon the interruption, continue the Joke boy bitchslapping.......

 

[JakeStarkey]

You, driveby, are playing by Rush's Rules for Con Fools, but you are playing very, very poorly.

You are, as always, risible, here for only chuckles and grins.

 

[DiveCon]

You, driveby, are playing by Rush's Rules for Con Fools, but you are playing very, very poorly.

You are, as always, risible, here for only chuckles and grins.

still waiting for you to actually show support for a candidate that supports the things you claim to support

 

[johnrocks]

See what happens when one doesn't answer a question

Dive knows my politics and I know him, we can agree or disagree without all the bullshit(usually), I just like to know people's general stand on things;I'm curious like that

BTW, I'm a RON Paul kind of Republican."old school"

 

[JakeStarkey]

John, are you complete libertarian, or a conservative on economics and a liberal on social values?

 

[DiveCon]

See what happens when one doesn't answer a question

Dive knows my politics and I know him, we can agree or disagree without all the bullshit(usually), I just like to know people's general stand on things;I'm curious like that

BTW, I'm a RON Paul kind of Republican."old school"

we agree on more things than we disagree on

 

[johnrocks]

John, are you complete libertarian, or a conservative on economics and a liberal on social values?

I am a proponent of as little government intervention as possible as I think it causes unintended consequences.

I am libertarian on most social issues;some call that liberal but at one time it was a pretty conservative viewpoint, why I get so confused with labels. I think they should be decided by the individual or at the most local level possible.

Economically, I am an Austrian Economic proponent realizing that some regulation has to take place, that is pretty vague but generally it should be to protect life and property , enforce contracts, that sort of thing.

Foreign policy, I'm pretty hard core non interventionist as I think government can cause unintended consequences regarding tht as in anything else.

Basically a Ron Paul clone , I tend to think more pragmatic though, realizing things won't change radically, it took generations to get where we are, it will take generations to trim government;if it ever happens.

 

[johnrocks]

See what happens when one doesn't answer a question

Dive knows my politics and I know him, we can agree or disagree without all the bullshit(usually), I just like to know people's general stand on things;I'm curious like that

BTW, I'm a RON Paul kind of Republican."old school"

we agree on more things than we disagree on

True that, I consider you a good friend in the "forum world"bro.

 

[JakeStarkey]

John, are you complete libertarian, or a conservative on economics and a liberal on social values?

I am a proponent of as little government intervention as possible as I think it causes unintended consequences.

I am libertarian on most social issues;some call that liberal but at one time it was a pretty conservative viewpoint, why I get so confused with labels. I think they should be decided by the individual or at the most local level possible.

Economically, I am an Austrian Economic proponent realizing that some regulation has to take place, that is pretty vague but generally it should be to protect life and property , enforce contracts, that sort of thing.

Foreign policy, I'm pretty hard core non interventionist as I think government can cause unintended consequences regarding tht as in anything else.

Basically a Ron Paul clone , I tend to think more pragmatic though, realizing things won't change radically, it took generations to get where we are, it will take generations to trim government;if it ever happens.

Tell me more about what you consider Paul's strengths and what you believe to be his weaknesses

 

[johnrocks]

John, are you complete libertarian, or a conservative on economics and a liberal on social values?

I am a proponent of as little government intervention as possible as I think it causes unintended consequences.

I am libertarian on most social issues;some call that liberal but at one time it was a pretty conservative viewpoint, why I get so confused with labels. I think they should be decided by the individual or at the most local level possible.

Economically, I am an Austrian Economic proponent realizing that some regulation has to take place, that is pretty vague but generally it should be to protect life and property , enforce contracts, that sort of thing.

Foreign policy, I'm pretty hard core non interventionist as I think government can cause unintended consequences regarding that as in anything else.

Basically a Ron Paul clone , I tend to think more pragmatic though, realizing things won't change radically, it took generations to get where we are, it will take generations to trim government;if it ever happens.

Tell me more about what you consider Paul's strengths and what you believe to be his weaknesses

I think his strength;in general terms; is a 30 plus year consistent record, sure, there are votes that can be brought forth that he can be called on but overall, it's hard to nail him on inconsistency, his biggest weakness;for me; is, as good a writer as he is, he is a terrible speaker;he sometimes stutters more than Porky Pig himself but he does excite the youth more than any other Republican that I'm aware of and if the GOP wants to grow, they need someone that the youth is enthusiastic about and that is in all races and cultures.

 

[DiveCon]

I am a proponent of as little government intervention as possible as I think it causes unintended consequences.

I am libertarian on most social issues;some call that liberal but at one time it was a pretty conservative viewpoint, why I get so confused with labels. I think they should be decided by the individual or at the most local level possible.

Economically, I am an Austrian Economic proponent realizing that some regulation has to take place, that is pretty vague but generally it should be to protect life and property , enforce contracts, that sort of thing.

Foreign policy, I'm pretty hard core non interventionist as I think government can cause unintended consequences regarding that as in anything else.

Basically a Ron Paul clone , I tend to think more pragmatic though, realizing things won't change radically, it took generations to get where we are, it will take generations to trim government;if it ever happens.

Tell me more about what you consider Paul's strengths and what you believe to be his weaknesses

I think his strength;in general terms; is a 30 plus year consistent record, sure, there are votes that can be brought forth that he can be called on but overall, it's hard to nail him on inconsistency, his biggest weakness;for me; is, as good a writer as he is, he is a terrible speaker;he sometimes stutters more than Porky Pig himself but he does excite the youth more than any other Republican that I'm aware of and if the GOP wants to grow, they need someone that the youth is enthusiastic about and that is in all races and cultures.

"doesnt work well with others"

LOL to use a grade school report card slogan
lol

 

[Kat]

Kat, please read through my posts again if you are not getting it.

I don't have the inclination to do that, sorry. If I couldn't get you the first time, why would I the second? If you don't want to answer, that is fine too.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Kat, please read through my posts again if you are not getting it.

I don't have the inclination to do that, sorry. If I couldn't get you the first time, why would I the second? If you don't want to answer, that is fine too.

I have answered clearly, and your passive/aggressive response reveals what you are about.

 

[Synthaholic]

Kat, please read through my posts again if you are not getting it.

I don't have the inclination to do that, sorry. If I couldn't get you the first time, why would I the second? If you don't want to answer, that is fine too.

I have answered clearly, and your passive/aggressive response reveals what you are about.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Cool response, JR, and I appreciate it. No, I am not going to neg rep you, and I will tell you why. I neg repped more than a half year ago, and she correctly pointed out I repped her for a difference of opinion. She was 100% right, and I apologized to her publicly.

I am GOP of the Gerald Ford stamp: small government, accountability of representation, decency in government, pride in American accomplishment, more than willing to work with the Democrats. He rightfully had no use for Joe McCarthy. I knew his son Jack at USU a very long time ago.

I have little love for Reaganism and its practicioners because, imo, they perverted consevatism to the needs of corporatism and they co-opted evangelicals for votes the return of which the party simply betrayed.

Jake also loves ObamaCare, the New Deal, and longs walk on the beach at sunset.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Same old liberal bullshit lies, they can't argue the facts so they attack anyone who disagrees with theur stupidity. Idiots

 

[JakeStarkey]

AmericanFirst is projecting his inner angst and that of all far right reactionary loons.