According to Most Libs, Fox News Lies.........

[MaggieMae]

tl;dr

Now, be honest wingy....we both know why you didn't read


"tl;dr" is little wingy's version of covering his little ears and shouting 'la la la I can't hear you so you're not talking.'

An answer on your level:

"Fraidy cat..faaidy cat..."

No, actually its an attempt to get you to stop your cut and pastes of voluminous material and then dare your readers to find a point in there somewhere

You have been to college....I would hope they don't let you get away with that shit, I sure as hell wouldn't

If you have a point to make.....Make it

Save the rest for backup

When Political Chic arrives on the scene, I always wonder where all the critics of Midcan are when he posts even less voluminous material as background.

 

[slukasiewski]

For Second Night, ABC and NBC Refuse to Utter Spitzer's Party ID
By Brent Baker | March 11, 2008 | 21:44

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Just as occurred Monday night, viewers of Tuesday's ABC and NBC evening newscasts never heard the word “Democrat” applied to New York Governor Eliot Spitzer, nor did they even put a “(D)” on screen by his name as ABC did briefly Monday. CBS didn't announce his party either on Tuesday night, but Katie Couric had done so Monday night. The ABC and NBC newscasts, however, did put “(R)” on screen over soundbites from Republicans and NBC's Mike Taibbi twice referred to the reaction from “Republican” politicians.

Fill-in ABC anchor Elizabeth Vargas avoided any party tag: “New York's Governor, Eliot Spitzer, spent most of the day today huddled behind closed doors debating whether to resign after being linked to a prostitution ring.” On NBC, substitute anchor Ann Curry led: “Tonight, the investigation of New York Governor Eliot Spitzer's fall from grace is broadening...”

Viewers could only figure out Spitzer's party by implication as both shows aired a soundbite from Republican Congressman Peter King with an “(R)” on screen. ABC's Brian Ross led into it by referring to how Spitzer will soon “end what even his political enemies called a once-brilliant career.” NBC's Taibbi cited King's party as he described “Republicans threatening impeachment if he doesn't resign.” Before video of State Rep. James Tedisco with an “(R-NY)” on screen, Taibbi also noted how “some Republicans in Albany would welcome” the move up by Lieutenant Governor David Paterson.



Read more: For Second Night, ABC and NBC Refuse to Utter Spitzer's Party ID | NewsBusters.org

Really grasping. NewsBusters?

But...you don't seem to be denying that the MSM do exactly what the minions are claiming that Fox does...."grasping" doesn't really cut it.

It seems that I have shown several examples of exactly that....

So that leaves the question of why you Lefties seem so hot about Fox.
But, of course, everyone knows why: before Drudge and Fox, you guys had the field all to yourselves...you could say anything and there could be no counter, or rebuttal.

Not anymore.

Tough when you lose your monopoly on information, eh?
Even tougher when you can see that Americans are tuning in to the truth more than your outlets.


Condolences.

What's puzzling is their allegiance to the dinosaurs - ABC, CBS, NBC - no one sits down after dinner and watches the news any longer and those has been news organizations.

The ratings further prove this. When people do watch - they watch Fox.

Why are Liberals so fucking dense?

 

[PoliticalChic]

So please, if you can cite one (and you should be able to if you've made this assertion), then post one of those lies in this thread that Fox News has broadcast.

Not affiliates....

Fox News, national.

Post away !!

This should be as entertaining as watching Dan Rather lie.... or Katie Couric getting fired, or MSNBC's ratings.

Fox doesn't "lie". They "invent" or "alter".

fox sues for right to lie

I'm sure Fox is just doing what the owners want, Rupert Murdoch and Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal. Together, their stock stops any "hostile takeover" from happening. That means the station will do whatever it's told.

But...but....they only do it 6% of the time!

 

[Spoonman]

Oh yeah?
What about the main stream media who conveniently left out the fact that Paul Ryan's budget plan did not take effect for Medicare recipients until age 54 and under.
And that seniors who are on Medicare now would not be effected.
It scared all the Seniors, how about that kind of biased reporting Huh?

Are you actually proud of that?

Do you think that by offering todays seniors a free pass that they would not be offended that future seniors would have no effective Medicare? Do you really think todays seniors do not care about their childrens ability to eventually get Medicare?

What a sleazy way to write a bill

they are too busy worrying about the massive debt obama is racking up for their kids. that's the real problem

 

[Wry Catcher]

What the bigot and the willfully ignorant refuse to acknowledge is a lie may come in different shapes, sizes and colors. Fox uses all rhetorical means to weave a web of deception, which in the final analysis is the antithesis of journalism. Using liberal amounts of half-truths, inuenndos, rumors and repitition, Fox commentators toe the company line, or to use kinder terms, provide a constant editorial 'page' to entertain and influence; unabashed are they in their daily duty to demagogue every issue they eschew even a pretense that what they do is fair and balanced.

 

[WillowTree]

So please, if you can cite one (and you should be able to if you've made this assertion), then post one of those lies in this thread that Fox News has broadcast.

Not affiliates....

Fox News, national.

Post away !!

This should be as entertaining as watching Dan Rather lie.... or Katie Couric getting fired, or MSNBC's ratings.

Slookie, it's more that they market themselves as a legitimate news source, where in fact they're an extremely biased opinion source that can scarcely be described as "News." But if you want to search for actual 'Lies,' they are readily accessible via any search engine.

Here's a few to get you started.
10 Most Ridiculous Fox News Lies, Creative Edits, and Half-Truths - Spiteful Critic

So should MSNBC remove the word "news" from it's headlines? doyathink? they don't come any more bigoted and biased and left leaning than MSNBC bews,

 

[WillowTree]

So please, if you can cite one (and you should be able to if you've made this assertion), then post one of those lies in this thread that Fox News has broadcast.

Not affiliates....

Fox News, national.

Post away !!

This should be as entertaining as watching Dan Rather lie.... or Katie Couric getting fired, or MSNBC's ratings.

For one, the whole death panel bullshit. Steve Dooshbag and friends.. along with the ever so hawt Megyn Kelly.. and all the other FNC anchors, ran that line during the whole health care debate. And never once did they mention that the individual mandate was a Heritage Foundation idea.. and was the conservative response to a single-payer system.

I guess it's more selectively reporting and editing more than lying.. but they've certainly done their share of that too.

I think obie doodle was the one who lied. he took 960 billion dollars from medicare to fund obie doodle care and at the same time enrolls thirty million uninsured. Tell me now how someone of the senior citizen population won't die. Splain that.

 

[rightwinger]

Seriously

Is there anyone who really thinks FoxNews is a legitimate news network?

They are in the News Entertainment business.....much like Pro Wrestling is in the Sports Entertainment Business

Only uneducated rightwing zealots think either one is real

 

[Spoonman]

So please, if you can cite one (and you should be able to if you've made this assertion), then post one of those lies in this thread that Fox News has broadcast.

Not affiliates....

Fox News, national.

Post away !!

This should be as entertaining as watching Dan Rather lie.... or Katie Couric getting fired, or MSNBC's ratings.

Slookie, it's more that they market themselves as a legitimate news source, where in fact they're an extremely biased opinion source that can scarcely be described as "News." But if you want to search for actual 'Lies,' they are readily accessible via any search engine.

Here's a few to get you started.
10 Most Ridiculous Fox News Lies, Creative Edits, and Half-Truths - Spiteful Critic

So should MSNBC remove the word "news" from it's headlines? doyathink? they don't come any more bigoted and biased and left leaning than MSNBC bews,

what's interesting is the guy running fox now came from msnbc

 

[Spoonman]

Seriously

Is there anyone who really thinks FoxNews is a legitimate news network?

They are in the News Entertainment business.....much like Pro Wrestling is in the Sports Entertainment Business

Only uneducated rightwing zealots think either one is real

yea, like double the amount of there closest competitor. ratings speak volumes

 

[kiwiman127]

They repetedly labeled republicans as democrats when there was a rash of republicans trying to fuck aides or suck someone off in an airport bathroom.

They did it over and over.

BTW what the hell do you think affiliate means?

So how do you feel msnbc reports the news? are they fair? are they biased one way or the other?

No, I think MSBNC is as bad as Fox News.
That's why I refuse to watch either network. I feel I'm smart enough and open-minded enough to NOT need either Fox News or MSNBC and my IQ is only 76.

 

[rightwinger]

Really grasping. NewsBusters?

But...you don't seem to be denying that the MSM do exactly what the minions are claiming that Fox does...."grasping" doesn't really cut it.

It seems that I have shown several examples of exactly that....

So that leaves the question of why you Lefties seem so hot about Fox.
But, of course, everyone knows why: before Drudge and Fox, you guys had the field all to yourselves...you could say anything and there could be no counter, or rebuttal.

Not anymore.

Tough when you lose your monopoly on information, eh?
Even tougher when you can see that Americans are tuning in to the truth more than your outlets.


Condolences.

What's puzzling is their allegiance to the dinosaurs - ABC, CBS, NBC - no one sits down after dinner and watches the news any longer and those has been news organizations.

The ratings further prove this. When people do watch - they watch Fox.

Why are Liberals so fucking dense?

ABC, CBS and NBC all beat FoxNews ratings by a wide margin

It is not even close

 

[MaggieMae]

So please, if you can cite one (and you should be able to if you've made this assertion), then post one of those lies in this thread that Fox News has broadcast.

Not affiliates....

Fox News, national.

Post away !!

This should be as entertaining as watching Dan Rather lie.... or Katie Couric getting fired, or MSNBC's ratings.

They embellish or spin "news" to fit their agenda. Perfect example:

Paul Ryan Fires Back at Gingrich Over 'Right-Wing Social Engineering' Criticism - FoxNews.com

Rep. Paul Ryan fired back at Newt Gingrich on Monday after the ex-House speaker panned Ryan's Medicare plan as "right-wing social engineering."
That's the lead in, but it is NOT what Gingrich said, to wit:
[also quoted in the link]

"I don't think right-wing social engineering is any more desirable than left-wing social engineering. I don't think imposing radical change from the right or the left is a very good way for a free society to operate," he said when asked about Ryan's proposal.

Ryan, chairman of the House Budget Committee, argued that his proposal is not "radical," as Gingrich alleged during an interview over the weekend. And he questioned why Gingrich was choosing to align himself with Democratic critics of the GOP budget proposal.

"With allies like that, who needs the left?" Ryan quipped, during an interview on Laura Ingraham's radio show.
...
Gingrich called for a "national conversation" on Medicare but described Ryan's proposed overhaul as "too big a jump."

"I'm against Obamacare, which is imposing radical change, and I would be against a conservative imposing radical change," he said.

He was absolutely RIGHT-ON by saying that a "national conversation" needed to take place, and how the hell is that supposed to happen when people like Paul Ryan (and FoxNews) don't want to hear anything from the Democrats, because apparently when the country's national issues are concerned, Dems are not allies, but enemies.

Quit being an idiot. The story was reported accurately.
Gingrich fucked-up and he's TOAST.
He violated Ron Reagan's 11th Commandment.

If Newt is toast, then probably Mitt will follow and you'll wind up with a Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann. Good luck with that. Do you follow the polls at all? Then you would know that thinking conservatives, the adults, want leadership willing to compromise.

Congress: Job Ratings (1)

Budget/Taxes

 

[MaggieMae]

The whole death panel thing?
Are you fucking serious too?

When was this "LIE" broadcast on Fox News? Who was the anchor or reporter? And Megyn Kelly is NOT an anchor - dumb ass.

And you mention "they've done their share" of lying?

Going to cite some examples, or are you going to blather along with your opinions...

You're either playing dumb, or your just a young-un who has only been watching Fox News for a month or so.

No one yet has cited an on-air lie, but according to people like you - it happens all the time. Do you have your head inserted so far into your ass you don't get it, or what??

We've been posting inyourface videos of on-air lies, but you refuse to look. You're too busy insulting people who have simply responded to your request for proof.

 

[slukasiewski]

What the bigot and the willfully ignorant refuse to acknowledge is a lie may come in different shapes, sizes and colors. Fox uses all rhetorical means to weave a web of deception, which in the final analysis is the antithesis of journalism. Using liberal amounts of half-truths, inuenndos, rumors and repitition, Fox commentators toe the company line, or to use kinder terms, provide a constant editorial 'page' to entertain and influence; unabashed are they in their daily duty to demagogue every issue they eschew even a pretense that what they do is fair and balanced.

Did Michael Moore ask you to post this?
You seem to have captured all the usual Liberal bullshit buzzwords. You didn't use racist, however, which is shocking! Surely you have to find Fox News and all conservatives racist, don't you?

Get back to your smegma collection.

 

[kiwiman127]

But...you don't seem to be denying that the MSM do exactly what the minions are claiming that Fox does...."grasping" doesn't really cut it.

It seems that I have shown several examples of exactly that....

So that leaves the question of why you Lefties seem so hot about Fox.
But, of course, everyone knows why: before Drudge and Fox, you guys had the field all to yourselves...you could say anything and there could be no counter, or rebuttal.

Not anymore.

Tough when you lose your monopoly on information, eh?
Even tougher when you can see that Americans are tuning in to the truth more than your outlets.


Condolences.

What's puzzling is their allegiance to the dinosaurs - ABC, CBS, NBC - no one sits down after dinner and watches the news any longer and those has been news organizations.

The ratings further prove this. When people do watch - they watch Fox.

Why are Liberals so fucking dense?

ABC, CBS and NBC all beat FoxNews ratings by a wide margin

It is not even close

That is true, most people watch their favorite nightly news and that's it! I think Fox and MSNBC get mostly the political hacks as their audience.

 

[slukasiewski]

They embellish or spin "news" to fit their agenda. Perfect example:

Paul Ryan Fires Back at Gingrich Over 'Right-Wing Social Engineering' Criticism - FoxNews.com


He was absolutely RIGHT-ON by saying that a "national conversation" needed to take place, and how the hell is that supposed to happen when people like Paul Ryan (and FoxNews) don't want to hear anything from the Democrats, because apparently when the country's national issues are concerned, Dems are not allies, but enemies.

Quit being an idiot. The story was reported accurately.
Gingrich fucked-up and he's TOAST.
He violated Ron Reagan's 11th Commandment.

If Newt is toast, then probably Mitt will follow and you'll wind up with a Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann. Good luck with that. Do you follow the polls at all? Then you would know that thinking conservatives, the adults, want leadership willing to compromise.

Congress: Job Ratings (1)

Budget/Taxes

It's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too freaking early to worry about the polls. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too early for Pawlenty to accept the nomination.
Take a chill pill Festus.

 

[MaggieMae]

Shreddy, this from your link...
"When the false "death panel" rumors started in August of 2009, Fox News reported on a supposed, "death book" by the Veterans Health Administration. In liu of actual reporting, they fanned the death panel flames by promoting a number of falsehoods that would have been cleared up had they actually read the thing."



Exhibit A. Last year, bureaucrats at the VA's National Center for Ethics in Health Care advocated a 52-page end-of-life planning document, "Your Life, Your Choices." It was first published in 1997 and later promoted as the VA's preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes. After the Bush White House took a look at how this document was treating complex health and moral issues, the VA suspended its use. Unfortunately, under President Obama, the VA has now resuscitated "Your Life, Your Choices."

Who is the primary author of this workbook? Dr. Robert Pearlman, chief of ethics evaluation for the center, a man who in 1996 advocated for physician-assisted suicide in Vacco v. Quill before the U.S. Supreme Court and is known for his support of health-care rationing.

"Your Life, Your Choices" presents end-of-life choices in a way aimed at steering users toward predetermined conclusions, much like a political "push poll." For example, a worksheet on page 21 lists various scenarios and asks users to then decide whether their own life would be "not worth living."

There also are guilt-inducing scenarios such as "I can no longer contribute to my family's well being," "I am a severe financial burden on my family" and that the vet's situation "causes severe emotional burden for my family."

When the government can steer vulnerable individuals to conclude for themselves that life is not worth living, who needs a death panel?

This hurry-up-and-die message is clear and unconscionable. Worse, a July 2009 VA directive instructs its primary care physicians to raise advance care planning with all VA patients and to refer them to "Your Life, Your Choices." Not just those of advanced age and debilitated condition—all patients. America's 24 million veterans deserve better.
Jim Towey: The Death Book for Veterans - WSJ.com

Exhibit B. Interviewed on Fox News Sunday, August 23, 2009 Jim Towey by Chris Wallace. The following were from my notes on the interview:

1. The Department of Veterans Affairs has promoted as the VA's preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes to direct veterans, all 24 million, with whom it comes in contact- elderly or not- to a booklet called “Your Life, Your Choice.” A July 2009 VA directive instructs its primary care physicians to raise advance care planning with all VA patients and to refer them to "Your Life, Your Choices."

2. The booklet presents end-of-life choices in a way aimed at steering users toward predetermined conclusions, much like a political "push poll." For example, a worksheet on page 21 lists various scenarios and asks users to then decide whether their own life would be "not worth living."

3. Are you unable to shake the ‘blues’? Are you disabled? Are you in a nursing home? Are you confined to a wheelchair? Are you an emotional burden for your family? Can you control your bladder? Bowels? Do you need kidney dialysis to keep you alive?

4. One can only imagine a soldier surviving the war in Iraq and returning without all of his limbs only to encounter a veteran's health-care system that seems intent on his demise. The government, with a financial stake in reducing the cost of veterans care, tries to steer vulnerable individuals into believing that their lives are not worth living.

5. When the government can steer vulnerable individuals to conclude for themselves that life is not worth living, who needs a death panel? When revised 2007-2008, only one organization was listed in the new version as a resource on advance directives: the Hemlock Society (now euphemistically known as "Compassion and Choices").

6. The Bush Administration suspended the use of this booklet, and the Obama Administration reinstated it July 2, 2009 and tells providers to refer to it.

7. The main author of the booklet, was. Dr. Robert Pearlman, chief of ethics evaluation for the center, a man who in 1996 advocated for physician-assisted suicide in Vacco v. Quill before the U.S. Supreme Court and is known for his support of health-care rationing. His research has explored euthanasia, the role of quality of life in decision-making, the validity of life-sustaining treatment preferences, medical futility, advance care planning, physician-assisted suicide, and relief of patient suffering.

8.The booklet can be found at Page Not Found

How about we assume that your link is just as flawed on the other nine examples?

Except they weren't referring to the VA; they were referring to the one clause in Obamacare related to ADVICE to elderly people regarding living wills, end of life choices, etc., IF THE PATIENT ASKED.

It was thereafter dubbed the DEATH PANEL CLAUSE.

No amount of unrelated spin you've collected will change that basic fact. None.

I can see why you would try to change the subject, but, surely you can do better that this post, no?

Shreddy's link states:
"When the false "death panel" rumors started in August of 2009, Fox News reported on a supposed, "death book" by the Veterans Health Administration. In liu of actual reporting, they fanned the death panel flames by promoting a number of falsehoods that would have been cleared up had they actually read the thing."

The link clearly says "..."death book" by the Veterans Health Administration..."

The date, as well, suggests the August interview.

So where's the "reporting" after August 2009? I repeat:

It was thereafter dubbed the DEATH PANEL CLAUSE.

 

[slukasiewski]

What's puzzling is their allegiance to the dinosaurs - ABC, CBS, NBC - no one sits down after dinner and watches the news any longer and those has been news organizations.

The ratings further prove this. When people do watch - they watch Fox.

Why are Liberals so fucking dense?

ABC, CBS and NBC all beat FoxNews ratings by a wide margin

It is not even close

That is true, most people watch their favorite nightly news and that's it! I think Fox and MSNBC get mostly the political hacks as their audience.

Fox - 9,000,000 viewers every night and their all political hacks? No one is there to watch the news?

 

[WillowTree]

Seriously

Is there anyone who really thinks FoxNews is a legitimate news network?

They are in the News Entertainment business.....much like Pro Wrestling is in the Sports Entertainment Business

Only uneducated rightwing zealots think either one is real

I think Fox is a legitimate News source. Just because media matters says they are not don't make it so.. put that where the moon don't shine.