Academy Awards Are a Farce

[protectionist]

They "blast away" in a theatrical production that is pure fiction. Most people who watch movies know it is not real.

Sure, but fictional or not, it does have effect on kids. I remember when I was a kid, and westerns were immensely popular both on TV and in movies. The bad gang kids used to actually mimic the outlaws they saw on the screen - their accent and saying.

Thankfully, they didn't go so far as to acquire guns and use them. Nowadays, it might be different.

 

[protectionist]

You are goofy

Shucks, and I really thought I was going to get your endorsement too.

 

[rightwinger]

You are welcome to your opinion. How much have you made playing music? The actors who make the big money do so because they are worth it. Their talent, and later their name, bring in bigger bucks to the studios.

HA HA. No offense. I just found that funny. I doubt that most actors got work based on anything related to "talent". More likely, knowing somebody, or doing something for somebody.

As for my income from music, I played 6 string electric guitar in a rock band for 9 years (during the 80s), and it was crucial to me then, as a major supplement to my dayjob work. I can't remember ever getting paid for my mandolin or violin playing (or fiddle - violin/fiddle same thing). Maybe I never really tried hard enough. I wouldn't know who to consult.

Probably a lot of musicians like me floating around. Sometimes you even see them playing outside a Walmart or some other big store, for tips. Its a sad sight - especially when you see movie actors getting so much, for doing so (relatively) little.

Movie actors produce a product worth hundreds of millions of dollars

Realatively a lot

 

[WinterBorn]

You are welcome to your opinion. How much have you made playing music? The actors who make the big money do so because they are worth it. Their talent, and later their name, bring in bigger bucks to the studios.

HA HA. No offense. I just found that funny. I doubt that most actors got work based on anything related to "talent". More likely, knowing somebody, or doing something for somebody.

As for my income from music, I played 6 string electric guitar in a rock band for 9 years (during the 80s), and it was crucial to me then, as a major supplement to my dayjob work. I can't remember ever getting paid for my mandolin or violin playing (or fiddle - violin/fiddle same thing). Maybe I never really tried hard enough. I wouldn't know who to consult.

Probably a lot of musicians like me floating around. Sometimes you even see them playing outside a Walmart or some other big store, for tips. Its a sad sight - especially when you see movie actors getting so much, for doing so (relatively) little.

There are plenty of hack actors who get by because they are pretty. But the same can be said for musicians. Atlanta has an excellent local music scene. I know 100+ very talented musicians. I know only 1 that makes his living from his music. And that is because he is a sought after instructor.

Your disdain of actors is your opinion. But to take words written on a page, create a character and them move people to tears, laughter or even fear, is a talent. If you think they have no talent, you have never tried to create a character and bring it to life.

 

[WinterBorn]

They "blast away" in a theatrical production that is pure fiction. Most people who watch movies know it is not real.

Sure, but fictional or not, it does have effect on kids. I remember when I was a kid, and westerns were immensely popular both on TV and in movies. The bad gang kids used to actually mimic the outlaws they saw on the screen - their accent and saying.

Thankfully, they didn't go so far as to acquire guns and use them. Nowadays, it might be different.

Then those kids were not taught right from wrong or that pretend is not reality. It is certainly not the fault of the actor or the people who made the movie.

 

[BlueGin]

It is refreshing to see someone who is not "I like what I like, and if you don't you are wrong!".

As well as anyone simply exercising their freedom of speech - some of which may be derogatory, but that often helps to make things get improved.

You think they are going to cancel televising the Oscars because of your posts?
You think Hollywood is going to change the movies they make because you don't go to the theater?

I think you have a better chance of convincing people that they can be sent to prison (like hundreds of other have been) for calling a senior citizen a dumbass.

Of course Hollywood isn't going to change their virtue signaling liberal propaganda. They cater to left wing loons and hope they will make up a big enough audience to cover costs.

I am a conservative. So is my sweetie. She and I go see a movie every month or so. We occasionally go with friends, most of whom are conservative. It is entertainment.

Ooh every month. You'd better step it up if you want Hollywood to meet their quotas. What do ya want a cookie? *Rolls Eyes*.

Last movie I saw was Black Panther ...before that The New Thor...

I go once every 2/3 months ( maybe...if that ).

Movies are NOT the only entertainment venue available to the public.

I have also been to the Circus,To Concerts, on weekend road trips etc...

 

[BlueGin]

Acting actually is a rather difficult craft. So is screenwriting. Both require imagination, creativity, an ability to grasp human emotion, and intense concentration. I've always enjoyed interviews, such as James Lipton's, with actors in dramas when they are asked to describe their understanding of the characters they play. Acting in these roles is a very psychological process. And actors in movies have a more difficult time because movies are not shot in a linear fashion. One may find one's self in bed with someone in Prague before ever shooting the scene in which they first meet in NYC.

I took some writing classes a while back in things like fiction writing, screenwriting, and dialogue. The one thing that the teachers always stressed was, when creating a character, the writer first had to create the character's background, even if some of the events never were mentioned in the finished work, to shape the character, like who was James Bond when he was growing up? Only son of a housewife and an engineer? Good grades, or did he screw up? Just how did he end up On Her Majesty's Secret Service?

But I guess that some people just don't like movies.

Please. A friend and I just sat and watched a movie being filmed here at one of the casinos. It consisted of two starlets carrying trays of fake drinks and walking back and forth to the same two tables for two hours.

Took them two hours to get "walking" right.

Derp. LOL

 

[WinterBorn]

It is refreshing to see someone who is not "I like what I like, and if you don't you are wrong!".

As well as anyone simply exercising their freedom of speech - some of which may be derogatory, but that often helps to make things get improved.

You think they are going to cancel televising the Oscars because of your posts?
You think Hollywood is going to change the movies they make because you don't go to the theater?

I think you have a better chance of convincing people that they can be sent to prison (like hundreds of other have been) for calling a senior citizen a dumbass.

Of course Hollywood isn't going to change their virtue signaling liberal propaganda. They cater to left wing loons and hope they will make up a big enough audience to cover costs.

I am a conservative. So is my sweetie. She and I go see a movie every month or so. We occasionally go with friends, most of whom are conservative. It is entertainment.

Ooh every month. You'd better step it up if you want Hollywood to meet their quotas. What do ya want a cookie? *Rolls Eyes*.

Last movie I saw was Black Panther ...before that The New Thor...

I go once every 2/3 months ( maybe...if that ).

Movies are NOT the only entertainment venue available to the public.

I have also been to the Circus,To Concerts, on weekend road trips etc...

LMAO! People talk about not going to the movies and you say nothing. I say we go every month or so, and you decide to go off on a sarcastic bender. Too funny. WE go when there is something we want to see. Often it is old movies playing at a theater that specializes in such films.

I know there are plenty of entertainments available. There are excellent local music venues and bands, we travel a good bit, and we enjoy staying home cooking, and the shooting range is an occasional bit of fun. If I am going every month or so, we obviously have other entertainments we enjoy.

 

[BlueGin]

As well as anyone simply exercising their freedom of speech - some of which may be derogatory, but that often helps to make things get improved.

You think they are going to cancel televising the Oscars because of your posts?
You think Hollywood is going to change the movies they make because you don't go to the theater?

I think you have a better chance of convincing people that they can be sent to prison (like hundreds of other have been) for calling a senior citizen a dumbass.

Of course Hollywood isn't going to change their virtue signaling liberal propaganda. They cater to left wing loons and hope they will make up a big enough audience to cover costs.

I am a conservative. So is my sweetie. She and I go see a movie every month or so. We occasionally go with friends, most of whom are conservative. It is entertainment.

Ooh every month. You'd better step it up if you want Hollywood to meet their quotas. What do ya want a cookie? *Rolls Eyes*.

Last movie I saw was Black Panther ...before that The New Thor...

I go once every 2/3 months ( maybe...if that ).

Movies are NOT the only entertainment venue available to the public.

I have also been to the Circus,To Concerts, on weekend road trips etc...

LMAO! People talk about not going to the movies and you say nothing. I say we go every month or so, and you decide to go off on a sarcastic bender. Too funny. WE go when there is something we want to see. Often it is old movies playing at a theater that specializes in such films.

I know there are plenty of entertainments available. There are excellent local music venues and bands, we travel a good bit, and we enjoy staying home cooking, and the shooting range is an occasional bit of fun. If I am going every month or so, we obviously have other entertainments we enjoy.

And you were questioning people not going at all. Do you have a point or do you just like to argue?

 

[WinterBorn]

You think they are going to cancel televising the Oscars because of your posts?
You think Hollywood is going to change the movies they make because you don't go to the theater?

I think you have a better chance of convincing people that they can be sent to prison (like hundreds of other have been) for calling a senior citizen a dumbass.

Of course Hollywood isn't going to change their virtue signaling liberal propaganda. They cater to left wing loons and hope they will make up a big enough audience to cover costs.

I am a conservative. So is my sweetie. She and I go see a movie every month or so. We occasionally go with friends, most of whom are conservative. It is entertainment.

Ooh every month. You'd better step it up if you want Hollywood to meet their quotas. What do ya want a cookie? *Rolls Eyes*.

Last movie I saw was Black Panther ...before that The New Thor...

I go once every 2/3 months ( maybe...if that ).

Movies are NOT the only entertainment venue available to the public.

I have also been to the Circus,To Concerts, on weekend road trips etc...

LMAO! People talk about not going to the movies and you say nothing. I say we go every month or so, and you decide to go off on a sarcastic bender. Too funny. WE go when there is something we want to see. Often it is old movies playing at a theater that specializes in such films.

I know there are plenty of entertainments available. There are excellent local music venues and bands, we travel a good bit, and we enjoy staying home cooking, and the shooting range is an occasional bit of fun. If I am going every month or so, we obviously have other entertainments we enjoy.

And you were questioning people not going at all. Do you have a point or do you just like to argue?

Actually, I was ridiculing the OP's rant against an awards show he is not obligated to watch.

 

[BlueGin]

Of course Hollywood isn't going to change their virtue signaling liberal propaganda. They cater to left wing loons and hope they will make up a big enough audience to cover costs.

I am a conservative. So is my sweetie. She and I go see a movie every month or so. We occasionally go with friends, most of whom are conservative. It is entertainment.

Ooh every month. You'd better step it up if you want Hollywood to meet their quotas. What do ya want a cookie? *Rolls Eyes*.

Last movie I saw was Black Panther ...before that The New Thor...

I go once every 2/3 months ( maybe...if that ).

Movies are NOT the only entertainment venue available to the public.

I have also been to the Circus,To Concerts, on weekend road trips etc...

LMAO! People talk about not going to the movies and you say nothing. I say we go every month or so, and you decide to go off on a sarcastic bender. Too funny. WE go when there is something we want to see. Often it is old movies playing at a theater that specializes in such films.

I know there are plenty of entertainments available. There are excellent local music venues and bands, we travel a good bit, and we enjoy staying home cooking, and the shooting range is an occasional bit of fun. If I am going every month or so, we obviously have other entertainments we enjoy.

And you were questioning people not going at all. Do you have a point or do you just like to argue?

Actually, I was ridiculing the OP's rant against an awards show he is not obligated to watch.

Awards shows are meaningless. The industry has made them even more pointless for creating so many for the sole purpose of patting themselves on the back and grandstanding.

They nominate and award based on virtue signaling in support of the minorities/ causes of the moment to make themselves feel better.

A sign that these people are bored and don't actually live in reality with the rest of the world.

Saying awards show are stupid is just common knowledge.

 

[WinterBorn]

I am a conservative. So is my sweetie. She and I go see a movie every month or so. We occasionally go with friends, most of whom are conservative. It is entertainment.

Ooh every month. You'd better step it up if you want Hollywood to meet their quotas. What do ya want a cookie? *Rolls Eyes*.

Last movie I saw was Black Panther ...before that The New Thor...

I go once every 2/3 months ( maybe...if that ).

Movies are NOT the only entertainment venue available to the public.

I have also been to the Circus,To Concerts, on weekend road trips etc...

LMAO! People talk about not going to the movies and you say nothing. I say we go every month or so, and you decide to go off on a sarcastic bender. Too funny. WE go when there is something we want to see. Often it is old movies playing at a theater that specializes in such films.

I know there are plenty of entertainments available. There are excellent local music venues and bands, we travel a good bit, and we enjoy staying home cooking, and the shooting range is an occasional bit of fun. If I am going every month or so, we obviously have other entertainments we enjoy.

And you were questioning people not going at all. Do you have a point or do you just like to argue?

Actually, I was ridiculing the OP's rant against an awards show he is not obligated to watch.

Awards shows are meaningless. The industry has made them even more pointless for creating so many for the sole purpose of patting themselves on the back and grandstanding.

They nominate and award based on virtue signaling in support of the minorities/ causes of the moment to make themselves feel better.

A sign that these people are bored and don't actually live in reality with the rest of the world.

Saying awards show are stupid is just common knowledge.

And many people watch them and enjoy them. We were invited to 3 Oscar parties. We didn't have an interest in the Oscars, so we didn't go. If people enjoy them, I see nothing wrong with them.

 

[BlueGin]

Ooh every month. You'd better step it up if you want Hollywood to meet their quotas. What do ya want a cookie? *Rolls Eyes*.

Last movie I saw was Black Panther ...before that The New Thor...

I go once every 2/3 months ( maybe...if that ).

Movies are NOT the only entertainment venue available to the public.

I have also been to the Circus,To Concerts, on weekend road trips etc...

LMAO! People talk about not going to the movies and you say nothing. I say we go every month or so, and you decide to go off on a sarcastic bender. Too funny. WE go when there is something we want to see. Often it is old movies playing at a theater that specializes in such films.

I know there are plenty of entertainments available. There are excellent local music venues and bands, we travel a good bit, and we enjoy staying home cooking, and the shooting range is an occasional bit of fun. If I am going every month or so, we obviously have other entertainments we enjoy.

And you were questioning people not going at all. Do you have a point or do you just like to argue?

Actually, I was ridiculing the OP's rant against an awards show he is not obligated to watch.

Awards shows are meaningless. The industry has made them even more pointless for creating so many for the sole purpose of patting themselves on the back and grandstanding.

They nominate and award based on virtue signaling in support of the minorities/ causes of the moment to make themselves feel better.

A sign that these people are bored and don't actually live in reality with the rest of the world.

Saying awards show are stupid is just common knowledge.

And many people watch them and enjoy them. We were invited to 3 Oscar parties. We didn't have an interest in the Oscars, so we didn't go. If people enjoy them, I see nothing wrong with them.

Yeah well some people like stupid crap...see the Kardashian's.

 

[WinterBorn]

LMAO! People talk about not going to the movies and you say nothing. I say we go every month or so, and you decide to go off on a sarcastic bender. Too funny. WE go when there is something we want to see. Often it is old movies playing at a theater that specializes in such films.

I know there are plenty of entertainments available. There are excellent local music venues and bands, we travel a good bit, and we enjoy staying home cooking, and the shooting range is an occasional bit of fun. If I am going every month or so, we obviously have other entertainments we enjoy.

And you were questioning people not going at all. Do you have a point or do you just like to argue?

Actually, I was ridiculing the OP's rant against an awards show he is not obligated to watch.

Awards shows are meaningless. The industry has made them even more pointless for creating so many for the sole purpose of patting themselves on the back and grandstanding.

They nominate and award based on virtue signaling in support of the minorities/ causes of the moment to make themselves feel better.

A sign that these people are bored and don't actually live in reality with the rest of the world.

Saying awards show are stupid is just common knowledge.

And many people watch them and enjoy them. We were invited to 3 Oscar parties. We didn't have an interest in the Oscars, so we didn't go. If people enjoy them, I see nothing wrong with them.

Yeah well some people like stupid crap...see the Kardashian's.

Ah I see. Another "If I don't like it, people who do are stupid"? That explains a lot.

Here is a suggestion. If you don't like the awards ceremony shows, don't watch them. Why do you care if someone else does?

 

[Lysistrata]

Acting actually is a rather difficult craft. So is screenwriting. Both require imagination, creativity, an ability to grasp human emotion, and intense concentration. I've always enjoyed interviews, such as James Lipton's, with actors in dramas when they are asked to describe their understanding of the characters they play. Acting in these roles is a very psychological process. And actors in movies have a more difficult time because movies are not shot in a linear fashion. One may find one's self in bed with someone in Prague before ever shooting the scene in which they first meet in NYC.

I took some writing classes a while back in things like fiction writing, screenwriting, and dialogue. The one thing that the teachers always stressed was, when creating a character, the writer first had to create the character's background, even if some of the events never were mentioned in the finished work, to shape the character, like who was James Bond when he was growing up? Only son of a housewife and an engineer? Good grades, or did he screw up? Just how did he end up On Her Majesty's Secret Service?

But I guess that some people just don't like movies.

Please. A friend and I just sat and watched a movie being filmed here at one of the casinos. It consisted of two starlets carrying trays of fake drinks and walking back and forth to the same two tables for two hours.

Took them two hours to get "walking" right.

Derp. LOL

I don't know what production you saw, and there is a lot of low-budget tripe out there, plus it is not unusual to have several "takes" until the director is satisfied with what he or she sees on the monitor. I used to work in downtown DC, where productions came and went for filming, usually with notables like Clint Eastwood and Kevin Costner, and not everything was done in one "take." It takes a lot of work to make a film. The hours with speech coaches (watch Sean Bean, from Yorkshire, carry off a perfect American accent in "The Hitcher" or Ryan Kwanten, an Aussie, transform himself into a very believable, some-what slow-witted Louisiana kid in "True Blood," Daniel Day-Lewis, a Brit, transforming himself into an American gang leader in "Gangs of New York" and also into Abraham Lincoln, not to mention that Tom Hanks nearly starved himself to play the lead roles in "Philadelphia" and "Castaway," in which he spent an entire two-hour film talking to a soccer ball). And this does not even take into account all the behind-the-scenes work, i.e. editing, music, makeup and costumes, attention to detail, the actors' character studies, their hours in the gym making sure that their bodies are up to appearing on camera.

I know that there is a right-wing political thing afoot to somehow demonize movie-making for some stupid reason or another, but that's just political rot.

 

[rightwinger]

I generally don’t watch the Oscars because I haven’t seen the films. Many are fairly obscure films I wouldn’t normally watch

Sometimes, it’s a head scratcher as to why they like the films. I like Rotten Tomatoes that gives a critic and audience score and comments about the film

For the most part, the Oscars provides a heads up for which films to watch. Usually, I wait for HBO or Netflix

 

[Lysistrata]

I generally don’t watch the Oscars because I haven’t seen the films. Many are fairly obscure films I wouldn’t normally watch

Sometimes, it’s a head scratcher as to why they like the films. I like Rotten Tomatoes that gives a critic and audience score and comments about the film

For the most part, the Oscars provides a heads up for which films to watch. Usually, I wait for HBO or Netflix

I haven't seen any of them, and I usually do the same as you. I can't tell you the last time that I was in a movie theater. Not only the Oscars, but the various film festivals like Cannes and Sundance, give a good heads up as to separating the crap from the gems. Plus there are the films that are based on books, which is a crapshoot. Loved "Lord of the Rings," which involved taking an entire cast and crew to New Zealand for months. I didn't think that anything could be done with my beloved Tolkien," but it came back really well done. So did "The Bridges of Madison County." Making books into two-hour movies is quite a challenge, since so much has to be cut out or they would be making a ten-hour movie. This is why screenwriting is so difficult. As I write this, I'm looking at the tape of "Dr. Zhivago" on my shelf.

 

[Hiryuu]

Shouldn't you be outside yelling for kids to get off your lawn? And maybe calling the cops to have them arrested if they insult you?

Yeah, probably wouldn't get an Oscar for it.
It breaks all the rules for winning an Oscar.

It was nominated for a Golden Globe and made $144 million more (that's more than twice as much) than the 2018 Oscar Winner Shape of Water at the box office though.

 

[WinterBorn]

Shouldn't you be outside yelling for kids to get off your lawn? And maybe calling the cops to have them arrested if they insult you?

Yeah, probably wouldn't get an Oscar for it.
It breaks all the rules for winning an Oscar.

It was nominated for a Golden Globe and made $144 million more (that's more than twice as much) than the 2018 Oscar Winner Shape of Water at the box office though.

Gran Torino won quite a few awards. Slumdog Millionaire won Best Picture that year.

And Protectionist is certainly no Clint Eastwood. And I'm pretty sure, if Walt Kowalski were real, he would not call the police if someone called him a "dumbass".

 

[Hiryuu]

Gran Torino won quite a few awards. Slumdog Millionaire won Best Picture that year.

So what, the point is that the Oscars really don't have anything to do with what people actually want to watch?