Abortion Poll

[kaz]

Funny how the same people who think guns should be totally unregulated want that same gubmint to insert itself into decisions that should only be between a woman and her doctor.

Funny how the people who think guns should be extremely regulated are the ones calling our President fascist

Yeah well I’m not a religious zealot and couldn’t care less what some christifascist thinks. And there is nothing in the 2nd amendment that prohibits regulation. Thanks for playing

Have a good day. And as usual nice false equivalency. But please let me know when the law turns women into incubators for Jesus

Lol, you dont know what not infringed means. Classic

That one isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.. he actually thinks he is an attorney.

Sorry it upsets you.
And that would be “she”, hack

Have you verified that?

 

[BlindBoo]

I voted up to 26 weeks because there is no determination for viability, but I don't particularity like the illegal after that part. I would still make an exception for medical necessity.

 

[kaz]

^^^ most 'pro-life' advocates ^^^

Thats stupid. Republicans support the welfare state just like you do

 

[ThisIsMe]

I voted for illegal except rape and incest, I would also add life of the mother. Although using those restrictions, you need to prove them and if used as a loophole you get charged with murder.

Ah I didn't read it carefully enough, I would have chosen the one just below.

Why is rape ok?

The majority of peoples who are anti-Abortion do not support the extreme of outlawing ALL abortion. The majority of peoples who are anti-Abortion also do not support restricting ANY form of contraception because using contraception is the only way to prevent unwanted pregnancies, I won't mention Abstinence because that is completely ridiculous and also I add totally abnormal as we are in general sexual beings.

The majority of peoples who are anti-Abortion do have the exceptions of rape, incest and where the life of the mother is concerned.

In the cases of rape, women who have been raped have a right not to suffer psychological damage and scarring by being forced to carry a rapists child for nine months and then give birth to it.

This is a very complex issue, that involves both physical trauma but more devastatingly enduring psychological trauma that could last for the rest of the womans life and also lead to suicidal tendency, so to avoid all of that it's important that if a woman is raped she is allowed the right for her own psychological well-being to have an abortion if she wishes to.

In the cases of incest, many of the same reasons as with rape, but also with the added complications of Inbreeding and the problems, specifically health issues with regard to the immune system that Interbred children suffer from.

In the cases where the life of the Mother is concerned, I fail to see how it's moral to allow a woman to die in order to save the foetus, sometimes the decision has to be to save the life of the Mother and most women can go on to have healthy pregnancies and thus more children, allowing the woman to die also doesn't allow that possibility of course.

To me this is being rational and reasonable re. abortion, it's illustrating compassion for social victims but at the same time it's condemning women who choose to have their baby murdered as it slumbers in the womb because to allow it to be born would be inconvenient to their lifestyle. Those women are no different than a woman who drowns her baby at birth or stabs it to death when it's aged two years in age.

The pro-Abortion crowd are the Extremists, they want Abortion on Demand, Abortion to be allowed as a contraception option.

I'm anti-Abortion with the exceptions of rape, incest and where the life of the Mother is concerned, I don't support abortion being used as a means of contraception that is murdering a child because it's an inconvenience.

Abortion on demand, getting pregnant and then saying you want an abortion because a baby isn't convenient and will mess up your career or lifestyle, that's using abortion as contraception.

If a woman doesn't want to become pregnant it's simple, use contraception, there are a variety of contraceptives that can be used, either use the contraception or keep her legs closed.

I just dont get it. If you think a fetus is a human being, why is it ok to kill them under certain circumstances?
It seems extremely inconsistent.

I say, if you have an abortion, no worries, have another abortion within 5 to 10 years, you get fixed, and if the 2nd abortion was with the same man, he gets fixed too.

Funny how the same people who think guns should be totally unregulated want that same gubmint to insert itself into decisions that should only be between a woman and her doctor.

So, you think that a woman, or a couple should be able to have sex, get pregnant, and then kill it, over and over, as many times as they want?

The creation of life is a gift, it's not like buying a piece of fruit and finding it is spoiled, so you just throw it away. To most people on the left, it's just a mass of tissue, and doesnt have any feelings, or thoughts etc. It is still life though.

If the left believes that it's just tissue, and has no thoughts or feelings or doesnt feel pain, so it's not worth keeping, then does that also mean that accident victims who are catatonic with no hope of recovery should just be removed from their life support and left to die? I wouldn't think so, so, why would you want to deny life to an unborn child?

 

[TNHarley]

I voted for illegal except rape and incest, I would also add life of the mother. Although using those restrictions, you need to prove them and if used as a loophole you get charged with murder.

Ah I didn't read it carefully enough, I would have chosen the one just below.

Why is rape ok?

The majority of peoples who are anti-Abortion do not support the extreme of outlawing ALL abortion. The majority of peoples who are anti-Abortion also do not support restricting ANY form of contraception because using contraception is the only way to prevent unwanted pregnancies, I won't mention Abstinence because that is completely ridiculous and also I add totally abnormal as we are in general sexual beings.

The majority of peoples who are anti-Abortion do have the exceptions of rape, incest and where the life of the mother is concerned.

In the cases of rape, women who have been raped have a right not to suffer psychological damage and scarring by being forced to carry a rapists child for nine months and then give birth to it.

This is a very complex issue, that involves both physical trauma but more devastatingly enduring psychological trauma that could last for the rest of the womans life and also lead to suicidal tendency, so to avoid all of that it's important that if a woman is raped she is allowed the right for her own psychological well-being to have an abortion if she wishes to.

In the cases of incest, many of the same reasons as with rape, but also with the added complications of Inbreeding and the problems, specifically health issues with regard to the immune system that Interbred children suffer from.

In the cases where the life of the Mother is concerned, I fail to see how it's moral to allow a woman to die in order to save the foetus, sometimes the decision has to be to save the life of the Mother and most women can go on to have healthy pregnancies and thus more children, allowing the woman to die also doesn't allow that possibility of course.

To me this is being rational and reasonable re. abortion, it's illustrating compassion for social victims but at the same time it's condemning women who choose to have their baby murdered as it slumbers in the womb because to allow it to be born would be inconvenient to their lifestyle. Those women are no different than a woman who drowns her baby at birth or stabs it to death when it's aged two years in age.

The pro-Abortion crowd are the Extremists, they want Abortion on Demand, Abortion to be allowed as a contraception option.

I'm anti-Abortion with the exceptions of rape, incest and where the life of the Mother is concerned, I don't support abortion being used as a means of contraception that is murdering a child because it's an inconvenience.

Abortion on demand, getting pregnant and then saying you want an abortion because a baby isn't convenient and will mess up your career or lifestyle, that's using abortion as contraception.

If a woman doesn't want to become pregnant it's simple, use contraception, there are a variety of contraceptives that can be used, either use the contraception or keep her legs closed.

I just dont get it. If you think a fetus is a human being, why is it ok to kill them under certain circumstances?
It seems extremely inconsistent.

I say, if you have an abortion, no worries, have another abortion within 5 to 10 years, you get fixed, and if the 2nd abortion was with the same man, he gets fixed too.

Funny how the same people who think guns should be totally unregulated want that same gubmint to insert itself into decisions that should only be between a woman and her doctor.

So, you think that a woman, or a couple should be able to have sex, get pregnant, and then kill it, over and over, as many times as they want?

The creation of life is a gift, it's not like buying a piece of fruit and finding it is spoiled, so you just throw it away. To most people on the left, it's just a mass of tissue, and doesnt have any feelings, or thoughts etc. It is still life though.

If the left believes that it's just tissue, and has no thoughts or feelings or doesnt feel pain, so it's not worth keeping, then does that also mean that accident victims who are catatonic with no hope of recovery should just be removed from their life support and left to die? I wouldn't think so, so, why would you want to deny life to an unborn child?

How is it a gift?
Its one of the most common things on this planet.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Why is rape ok?

The majority of peoples who are anti-Abortion do not support the extreme of outlawing ALL abortion. The majority of peoples who are anti-Abortion also do not support restricting ANY form of contraception because using contraception is the only way to prevent unwanted pregnancies, I won't mention Abstinence because that is completely ridiculous and also I add totally abnormal as we are in general sexual beings.

The majority of peoples who are anti-Abortion do have the exceptions of rape, incest and where the life of the mother is concerned.

In the cases of rape, women who have been raped have a right not to suffer psychological damage and scarring by being forced to carry a rapists child for nine months and then give birth to it.

This is a very complex issue, that involves both physical trauma but more devastatingly enduring psychological trauma that could last for the rest of the womans life and also lead to suicidal tendency, so to avoid all of that it's important that if a woman is raped she is allowed the right for her own psychological well-being to have an abortion if she wishes to.

In the cases of incest, many of the same reasons as with rape, but also with the added complications of Inbreeding and the problems, specifically health issues with regard to the immune system that Interbred children suffer from.

In the cases where the life of the Mother is concerned, I fail to see how it's moral to allow a woman to die in order to save the foetus, sometimes the decision has to be to save the life of the Mother and most women can go on to have healthy pregnancies and thus more children, allowing the woman to die also doesn't allow that possibility of course.

To me this is being rational and reasonable re. abortion, it's illustrating compassion for social victims but at the same time it's condemning women who choose to have their baby murdered as it slumbers in the womb because to allow it to be born would be inconvenient to their lifestyle. Those women are no different than a woman who drowns her baby at birth or stabs it to death when it's aged two years in age.

The pro-Abortion crowd are the Extremists, they want Abortion on Demand, Abortion to be allowed as a contraception option.

I'm anti-Abortion with the exceptions of rape, incest and where the life of the Mother is concerned, I don't support abortion being used as a means of contraception that is murdering a child because it's an inconvenience.

Abortion on demand, getting pregnant and then saying you want an abortion because a baby isn't convenient and will mess up your career or lifestyle, that's using abortion as contraception.

If a woman doesn't want to become pregnant it's simple, use contraception, there are a variety of contraceptives that can be used, either use the contraception or keep her legs closed.

I just dont get it. If you think a fetus is a human being, why is it ok to kill them under certain circumstances?
It seems extremely inconsistent.

I say, if you have an abortion, no worries, have another abortion within 5 to 10 years, you get fixed, and if the 2nd abortion was with the same man, he gets fixed too.

Funny how the same people who think guns should be totally unregulated want that same gubmint to insert itself into decisions that should only be between a woman and her doctor.

So, you think that a woman, or a couple should be able to have sex, get pregnant, and then kill it, over and over, as many times as they want?

The creation of life is a gift, it's not like buying a piece of fruit and finding it is spoiled, so you just throw it away. To most people on the left, it's just a mass of tissue, and doesnt have any feelings, or thoughts etc. It is still life though.

If the left believes that it's just tissue, and has no thoughts or feelings or doesnt feel pain, so it's not worth keeping, then does that also mean that accident victims who are catatonic with no hope of recovery should just be removed from their life support and left to die? I wouldn't think so, so, why would you want to deny life to an unborn child?

How is it a gift?
Its one of the most common things on this planet.

I say it's a gift because the odds of getting pregnant, when not actively trying, are pretty low, like 11%. When you are trying, it only raises up to about 25%.

Yes, pregnancy is common, but I would imagine a lot of those pregnancies happen when least expected....or least wanted, which is why and when abortions happen.

Not to mention, we were given the ability to create life, when you think about it, that is a gift in of itself, and not something to be taken lightly.

 

[g5000]

Thete are 8 votes for never. I would like to hear the reasoning for why. Any one who voted never want to speak up?

And there are 16 votes for up to the end of the third trimester. In other words, partial birth abortion. Abortion at a stage when when a doctor could induce labor and a health baby would be born.

Yeah, I saw that. Pretty sad.

 

[g5000]

I just dont get it. If you think a fetus is a human being, why is it ok to kill them under certain circumstances?
It seems extremely inconsistent.

I say, if you have an abortion, no worries, have another abortion within 5 to 10 years, you get fixed, and if the 2nd abortion was with the same man, he gets fixed too.

Funny how the same people who think guns should be totally unregulated want that same gubmint to insert itself into decisions that should only be between a woman and her doctor.

Funny how the people who think guns should be extremely regulated are the ones calling our President fascist

Yeah well I’m not a religious zealot and couldn’t care less what some christifascist thinks. And there is nothing in the 2nd amendment that prohibits regulation. Thanks for playing

Have a good day. And as usual nice false equivalency. But please let me know when the law turns women into incubators for Jesus

Lol, you dont know what not infringed means. Classic

That one isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.. he actually thinks he is an attorney.

Point of fact, even Justice Scalia, who actually was a lawyer and judge, while neither of you are, stated quite plainly that the Second Amendment allows for gun regulation.

To wit: "We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons.’”

 

[g5000]

Yes, pregnancy is common, but I would imagine a lot of those pregnancies happen when least expected....or least wanted, which is why and when abortions happen.

Actually, half of all abortions are the result of no birth control of any kind being used by the couple involved. Another fifth are the result of the improper or inconsistent use of birth control.

We could actually lower the abortion rate significantly by addressing these problems. Then abortion would become that much rarer and therefore more stigmatized.

I don't believe the repeal of Roe v. Wade would have a significant effect on the abortion rate.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Let them cull their own

 

[eagle7_31]

It seems where emotional topics like abortion or gun control are concerned, it does not take long for the discussion to be controlled by extremists. Even level headed people feel pushed to the poles in defense of their positions.

I'd like to illustrate the wide spectrum of opinions, and I thought a poll would be the best way to do that.

Please select the option which comes closest to your feelings about abortion.

Thank you.

To me the abortion question goes as follows. When there is heart and brain activity with an unborn child that child to me by medical and legal definition is alive on life support from the mother. One is declared legally and medically deceased when heart and brain activity stop, so to me life begins in the same manner as it ends. From conception to the beginning of heart and brain activity is to myself where the abortion issue is an open question. I can understand the moral argument of some pro lifers who believe life begins at conception and they are certainly free to make their case in the discussion. After heart and brain activity begin I would be hard pressed to support abortion except in the case of life endangerment to the mother.

 

[TNHarley]

The majority of peoples who are anti-Abortion do not support the extreme of outlawing ALL abortion. The majority of peoples who are anti-Abortion also do not support restricting ANY form of contraception because using contraception is the only way to prevent unwanted pregnancies, I won't mention Abstinence because that is completely ridiculous and also I add totally abnormal as we are in general sexual beings.

The majority of peoples who are anti-Abortion do have the exceptions of rape, incest and where the life of the mother is concerned.

In the cases of rape, women who have been raped have a right not to suffer psychological damage and scarring by being forced to carry a rapists child for nine months and then give birth to it.

This is a very complex issue, that involves both physical trauma but more devastatingly enduring psychological trauma that could last for the rest of the womans life and also lead to suicidal tendency, so to avoid all of that it's important that if a woman is raped she is allowed the right for her own psychological well-being to have an abortion if she wishes to.

In the cases of incest, many of the same reasons as with rape, but also with the added complications of Inbreeding and the problems, specifically health issues with regard to the immune system that Interbred children suffer from.

In the cases where the life of the Mother is concerned, I fail to see how it's moral to allow a woman to die in order to save the foetus, sometimes the decision has to be to save the life of the Mother and most women can go on to have healthy pregnancies and thus more children, allowing the woman to die also doesn't allow that possibility of course.

To me this is being rational and reasonable re. abortion, it's illustrating compassion for social victims but at the same time it's condemning women who choose to have their baby murdered as it slumbers in the womb because to allow it to be born would be inconvenient to their lifestyle. Those women are no different than a woman who drowns her baby at birth or stabs it to death when it's aged two years in age.

The pro-Abortion crowd are the Extremists, they want Abortion on Demand, Abortion to be allowed as a contraception option.

I'm anti-Abortion with the exceptions of rape, incest and where the life of the Mother is concerned, I don't support abortion being used as a means of contraception that is murdering a child because it's an inconvenience.

Abortion on demand, getting pregnant and then saying you want an abortion because a baby isn't convenient and will mess up your career or lifestyle, that's using abortion as contraception.

If a woman doesn't want to become pregnant it's simple, use contraception, there are a variety of contraceptives that can be used, either use the contraception or keep her legs closed.

I just dont get it. If you think a fetus is a human being, why is it ok to kill them under certain circumstances?
It seems extremely inconsistent.

I say, if you have an abortion, no worries, have another abortion within 5 to 10 years, you get fixed, and if the 2nd abortion was with the same man, he gets fixed too.

Funny how the same people who think guns should be totally unregulated want that same gubmint to insert itself into decisions that should only be between a woman and her doctor.

So, you think that a woman, or a couple should be able to have sex, get pregnant, and then kill it, over and over, as many times as they want?

The creation of life is a gift, it's not like buying a piece of fruit and finding it is spoiled, so you just throw it away. To most people on the left, it's just a mass of tissue, and doesnt have any feelings, or thoughts etc. It is still life though.

If the left believes that it's just tissue, and has no thoughts or feelings or doesnt feel pain, so it's not worth keeping, then does that also mean that accident victims who are catatonic with no hope of recovery should just be removed from their life support and left to die? I wouldn't think so, so, why would you want to deny life to an unborn child?

How is it a gift?
Its one of the most common things on this planet.

I say it's a gift because the odds of getting pregnant, when not actively trying, are pretty low, like 11%. When you are trying, it only raises up to about 25%.

Yes, pregnancy is common, but I would imagine a lot of those pregnancies happen when least expected....or least wanted, which is why and when abortions happen.

Not to mention, we were given the ability to create life, when you think about it, that is a gift in of itself, and not something to be taken lightly.

What form of life doesnt reproduce?

 

[TNHarley]

Funny how the same people who think guns should be totally unregulated want that same gubmint to insert itself into decisions that should only be between a woman and her doctor.

Funny how the people who think guns should be extremely regulated are the ones calling our President fascist

Yeah well I’m not a religious zealot and couldn’t care less what some christifascist thinks. And there is nothing in the 2nd amendment that prohibits regulation. Thanks for playing

Have a good day. And as usual nice false equivalency. But please let me know when the law turns women into incubators for Jesus

Lol, you dont know what not infringed means. Classic

That one isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.. he actually thinks he is an attorney.

Point of fact, even Justice Scalia, who actually was a lawyer and judge, while neither of you are, stated quite plainly that the Second Amendment allows for gun regulation.

To wit: "We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons.’”

Historical tradition is not mentioned in the 2nd amendment.

 

[TNHarley]

It seems where emotional topics like abortion or gun control are concerned, it does not take long for the discussion to be controlled by extremists. Even level headed people feel pushed to the poles in defense of their positions.

I'd like to illustrate the wide spectrum of opinions, and I thought a poll would be the best way to do that.

Please select the option which comes closest to your feelings about abortion.

Thank you.

To me the abortion question goes as follows. When there is heart and brain activity with an unborn child that child to me by medical and legal definition is alive on life support from the mother. One is declared legally and medically deceased when heart and brain activity stop, so to me life begins in the same manner as it ends. From conception to the beginning of heart and brain activity is to myself where the abortion issue is an open question. I can understand the moral argument of some pro lifers who believe life begins at conception and they are certainly free to make their case in the discussion. After heart and brain activity begin I would be hard pressed to support abortion except in the case of life endangerment to the mother.

While i think that was a nice post, i respectfully disagree. Life itself implies some sort of livable independance.

 

[CHAZBUKOWSKI]

Never.

It is time for so called "progressives" to put their money where their mouth is and abandon barbaric practices from the cave man days.

Cavemen had abortions?

 

[eagle7_31]

It seems where emotional topics like abortion or gun control are concerned, it does not take long for the discussion to be controlled by extremists. Even level headed people feel pushed to the poles in defense of their positions.

I'd like to illustrate the wide spectrum of opinions, and I thought a poll would be the best way to do that.

Please select the option which comes closest to your feelings about abortion.

Thank you.

To me the abortion question goes as follows. When there is heart and brain activity with an unborn child that child to me by medical and legal definition is alive on life support from the mother. One is declared legally and medically deceased when heart and brain activity stop, so to me life begins in the same manner as it ends. From conception to the beginning of heart and brain activity is to myself where the abortion issue is an open question. I can understand the moral argument of some pro lifers who believe life begins at conception and they are certainly free to make their case in the discussion. After heart and brain activity begin I would be hard pressed to support abortion except in the case of life endangerment to the mother.

While i think that was a nice post, i respectfully disagree. Life itself implies some sort of livable independance.

I was framing my point by legal and medical means, the definition of life which the abortion question is fueled by so to speak.

 

[JoeMoma]

It seems where emotional topics like abortion or gun control are concerned, it does not take long for the discussion to be controlled by extremists. Even level headed people feel pushed to the poles in defense of their positions.

I'd like to illustrate the wide spectrum of opinions, and I thought a poll would be the best way to do that.

Please select the option which comes closest to your feelings about abortion.

Thank you.

To me the abortion question goes as follows. When there is heart and brain activity with an unborn child that child to me by medical and legal definition is alive on life support from the mother. One is declared legally and medically deceased when heart and brain activity stop, so to me life begins in the same manner as it ends. From conception to the beginning of heart and brain activity is to myself where the abortion issue is an open question. I can understand the moral argument of some pro lifers who believe life begins at conception and they are certainly free to make their case in the discussion. After heart and brain activity begin I would be hard pressed to support abortion except in the case of life endangerment to the mother.

While i think that was a nice post, i respectfully disagree. Life itself implies some sort of livable independance.

To the root of why abortion is such a debate is that there is not true consensus about when a life is a "life".

 

[TNHarley]

It seems where emotional topics like abortion or gun control are concerned, it does not take long for the discussion to be controlled by extremists. Even level headed people feel pushed to the poles in defense of their positions.

I'd like to illustrate the wide spectrum of opinions, and I thought a poll would be the best way to do that.

Please select the option which comes closest to your feelings about abortion.

Thank you.

To me the abortion question goes as follows. When there is heart and brain activity with an unborn child that child to me by medical and legal definition is alive on life support from the mother. One is declared legally and medically deceased when heart and brain activity stop, so to me life begins in the same manner as it ends. From conception to the beginning of heart and brain activity is to myself where the abortion issue is an open question. I can understand the moral argument of some pro lifers who believe life begins at conception and they are certainly free to make their case in the discussion. After heart and brain activity begin I would be hard pressed to support abortion except in the case of life endangerment to the mother.

While i think that was a nice post, i respectfully disagree. Life itself implies some sort of livable independance.

I was framing my point by legal and medical means, the definition of life which the abortion question is fueled by so to speak.

The def of life implies some sort of livable dependence. An unborn child doesnt have that.
A fetus has brain activity and heart beat around 5 or 6 weeks.
A fetus that is born before 20 weeks cant survive the womb.
I believe the earliest is like 23.

 

[Erinwltr]

The planet is overpopulated with humans as it is so I could care less if women get abortions.

World overpopulation is a myth. There are just too many in the large cities.

Overpopulation occurs when a species' population exceeds the carrying capacity of its ecological niche. It can result from an increase in births (fertility rate), a decline in the mortality rate, an increase in immigration, or an unsustainable biome and depletion of resources.[1 -Wiki

Sound familiar to what is going on today, Sir?

 

[TNHarley]

It seems where emotional topics like abortion or gun control are concerned, it does not take long for the discussion to be controlled by extremists. Even level headed people feel pushed to the poles in defense of their positions.

I'd like to illustrate the wide spectrum of opinions, and I thought a poll would be the best way to do that.

Please select the option which comes closest to your feelings about abortion.

Thank you.

To me the abortion question goes as follows. When there is heart and brain activity with an unborn child that child to me by medical and legal definition is alive on life support from the mother. One is declared legally and medically deceased when heart and brain activity stop, so to me life begins in the same manner as it ends. From conception to the beginning of heart and brain activity is to myself where the abortion issue is an open question. I can understand the moral argument of some pro lifers who believe life begins at conception and they are certainly free to make their case in the discussion. After heart and brain activity begin I would be hard pressed to support abortion except in the case of life endangerment to the mother.

While i think that was a nice post, i respectfully disagree. Life itself implies some sort of livable independance.

To the root of why abortion is such a debate is that there is not true consensus about when a life is a "life".

Absolutely.