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[mamooth]

English common law and scientific convention believed that human life began at quickening.

Thank you for confirming my point, that abortion was legal and common when the Constitution was written, and the Founders were fine with that. I do understand why you want to run from that point, since it annihilates your Constitutional arguments.

Next time, just say "Yes, mamooth, you were right, thank you so much for educating me."

Advances in cell theory came along with advances in microscopy, the field of embryology wasn’t even possible in 1789.

And yet people knew exactly what a person was, which is proof that the definition has nothing to do with what you babble about, and that you're engaging in dishonest revisionism.

We know now that life begins at fertilization.

Only the most deeply stupid or crazy say that, given that sperm and eggs are alive. Someone would have to be brainwashed beyond any hope of redemption to say something as stupid as what you just said.

 

[playtime]

Jefferson wrote and they all signed that all men are created equal.

We are created at fertilization, and we all have unalienable rights to life.

GG, no re, re-re.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists
The Final Letter, as Sent​

To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.
Gentlemen
The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.
I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.
Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists (June 1998) - Library of Congress Information Bulletin

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Thank you for confirming my point, that abortion was legal and common when the Constitution was written, and the Founders were fine with that. I do understand why you want to run from that point, since it annihilates your Constitutional arguments.

The Constitution is silent on the topic.
The Tenth Amendment exists.

You have no argument, fucktard.

“And yet people knew exactly what a person was”
Oh, we’re gonna go with 18th century Virginian ideas about personhood, now?

Hrm. Hrrrrrrm. It’s almost like there’s a problem here. I can’t imagine what it could be, some issue about personhood in the 1700s-1800s… in the US… hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm. But yeah, they really knew how to define personhood back then, dead on.

Only the most deeply stupid or crazy say that, given that sperm and eggs are alive.

Sperm cells are part of a man’s body, then they are cast off, and the overwhelming majority of those cells die.

Fertilization creates a new organism of our species with their own life, their own body.

Knowing this indisputable textbook scientific fact isn’t stupid or crazy, it’s just called not flunking out of the 5th grade, re-re.

Clearly a bar too high for you.