A victory for Virginia women, "personhood" bill defeated

[rdean]

Republicans hope that if they get one of their wackos elected, they can bring this bill back and hopefully get more support. The party of "liberty" want to make sure women have none.

 

[Si modo]

Republicans hope that if they get one of their wackos elected, they can bring this bill back and hopefully get more support. The party of "liberty" want to make sure women have none.

Sure. That's why the Republican leader supported the motion to carry it over, deanie-do.

Derp, derp.

 

[Unknown_Soldier]

Republicans hope that if they get one of their wackos elected, they can bring this bill back and hopefully get more support. The party of "liberty" want to make sure women have none.

Hey stupid. You realize women have the liberty to

A) not have sex
B) use birth control
C) not have an abortion

That's complete liberty to avoid this procedure.

 

[Avatar4321]

Republicans hope that if they get one of their wackos elected, they can bring this bill back and hopefully get more support. The party of "liberty" want to make sure women have none.

Actually, we want to ensure that their children have life & liberty. Infanticide is contrary to the principles of the Founders.

And while Abortion may be seen as an easy way out, there is more joy it taking responsibility for ourselves and doing what we need to do. I recommend it. It's very empowering.

 

[Avatar4321]

Republicans hope that if they get one of their wackos elected, they can bring this bill back and hopefully get more support. The party of "liberty" want to make sure women have none.

Sure. That's why the Republican leader supported the motion to carry it over, deanie-do.

Derp, derp.

Some day I think rdean will have his eyes open and he will be ashamed of the way he's been acting. Someday he will actually want to help the Republic rather than tear it down.

 

[Avatar4321]

Republicans hope that if they get one of their wackos elected, they can bring this bill back and hopefully get more support. The party of "liberty" want to make sure women have none.

Hey stupid. You realize women have the liberty to

A) not have sex
B) use birth control
C) not have an abortion

That's complete liberty to avoid this procedure.

I'm not sure the name calling was necessary, but you are exactly right. Women are at liberty to avoid this procedure.

 

[rdean]

Only progressives see babies as "punishment", I'm afraid.

Oh yea? How many are you taking care of?

Well?

Well?

Thought so.

Are you really suggesting that some women only have an option of either someone else raising their kid or having an abortion? There is no room for birth control or just raising your "mistake" on your own, either one?

They have an option. A legal option. They can get an abortion. It's their choice to make. Not mine and not yours.

 

[rdean]

In a stunning turn of events, the Virginia Senate has voted 24-14 to scuttle a bill that would have given fertilized eggs the same legal rights as people.

Sen. Richard L. Saslaw, D-Fairfax, proposed that House Bill 1, which had passed the Senate Education and Health Committee earlier today on an 8-7 party line vote, be sent back to the committee and carried over to the 2013 legislative session for further discussion and deliberation.

Then Sen. Thomas K. Norment Jr., R-James City, the Republican leader of the Senate, rose to support the motion, saying that the issues raised by the bill are more complex and far-reaching than previously thought and merit further study.

The vote effectively kills the bill for the year.

UPDATE: State Senate scuttles 'personhood' bill | GoDanRiver.com

This is how sick, mengala sick, the liberal mind is, it's a victory that women can abort their baby without seeing that they carry the most precious gift, a baby.

How many "precious gifts" have you adopted?

Well?

Thought so.

 

[Unknown_Soldier]

Oh yea? How many are you taking care of?

Well?

Well?

Thought so.

Are you really suggesting that some women only have an option of either someone else raising their kid or having an abortion? There is no room for birth control or just raising your "mistake" on your own, either one?

They have an option. A legal option. They can get an abortion. It's their choice to make. Not mine and not yours.

Bingo, so you admit that any woman who undergoes this procedure has CHOSEN to be there. Thanks.

//thread

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Are you really suggesting that some women only have an option of either someone else raising their kid or having an abortion? There is no room for birth control or just raising your "mistake" on your own, either one?

They have an option. A legal option. They can get an abortion. It's their choice to make. Not mine and not yours.

Bingo, so you admit that any woman who undergoes this procedure has CHOSEN to be there. Thanks.

//thread

They didn't choose to have a vaginal ultrasound first, but you already knew that, hence the reason nobody bothered to answer your question in the first place. It wasn't serious.

Anyway, it doesn't matter because personal freedom and liberty have prevailed and the BIG government conservatives lose again.

 

[The T]

In a stunning turn of events, the Virginia Senate has voted 24-14 to scuttle a bill that would have given fertilized eggs the same legal rights as people.

Sen. Richard L. Saslaw, D-Fairfax, proposed that House Bill 1, which had passed the Senate Education and Health Committee earlier today on an 8-7 party line vote, be sent back to the committee and carried over to the 2013 legislative session for further discussion and deliberation.

Then Sen. Thomas K. Norment Jr., R-James City, the Republican leader of the Senate, rose to support the motion, saying that the issues raised by the bill are more complex and far-reaching than previously thought and merit further study.

The vote effectively kills the bill for the year.

UPDATE: State Senate scuttles 'personhood' bill | GoDanRiver.com

This is how sick, mengala sick, the liberal mind is, it's a victory that women can abort their baby without seeing that they carry the most precious gift, a baby.

How many "precious gifts" have you adopted?

Well?

Thought so.

How many have you?

 

[Stephanie]

In a stunning turn of events, the Virginia Senate has voted 24-14 to scuttle a bill that would have given fertilized eggs the same legal rights as people.

Sen. Richard L. Saslaw, D-Fairfax, proposed that House Bill 1, which had passed the Senate Education and Health Committee earlier today on an 8-7 party line vote, be sent back to the committee and carried over to the 2013 legislative session for further discussion and deliberation.

Then Sen. Thomas K. Norment Jr., R-James City, the Republican leader of the Senate, rose to support the motion, saying that the issues raised by the bill are more complex and far-reaching than previously thought and merit further study.

The vote effectively kills the bill for the year.

UPDATE: State Senate scuttles 'personhood' bill | GoDanRiver.com

why would you have been against this?
I'm curious

 

[Sarah G]

McDonnell has done a 180 on this. Obama has gone up in Virginia polling 8-10 points over Santorum and Gingrich.

The extremists in the Republican party will simply never learn.

 

[Stephanie]

McDonnell has done a 180 on this. Obama has gone up in Virginia polling 8-10 points over Santorum and Gingrich.

The extremists in the Republican party will simply never learn.

what was "extreme" about the bill?

 

[chikenwing]

It required a transvaginal ultrasound, which is very much an invasive procedure. They took the legislation too far. This is yet more proof that conservatives are full of shit when they talk about respecting limited government and getting the government out of people's lives.

transvaginal ultrasound is less invasive then the abortion they are trying to get

Doesn't matter. They aren't asking for the ultrasound and the government has no right to force it on them. You people all bitched about the government forcing Catholic charities to pay for contraception, and rightly so, but then you turn around and have no problem with them forcing an ultrasound up a woman's cooch. See the hypocrisy here?

Nope,kinda hard to be a hypocrite and save lives at the same time.

The real tragically hypocritical angle,is that so many deny what they once were and what would and will be. Its always a human,be it boy or girl,never anything else,but are more than willing to kill their offspring for a long list of lame excuses ,but mostly just convenience.

 

[Si modo]

In a stunning turn of events, the Virginia Senate has voted 24-14 to scuttle a bill that would have given fertilized eggs the same legal rights as people.

Sen. Richard L. Saslaw, D-Fairfax, proposed that House Bill 1, which had passed the Senate Education and Health Committee earlier today on an 8-7 party line vote, be sent back to the committee and carried over to the 2013 legislative session for further discussion and deliberation.

Then Sen. Thomas K. Norment Jr., R-James City, the Republican leader of the Senate, rose to support the motion, saying that the issues raised by the bill are more complex and far-reaching than previously thought and merit further study.

The vote effectively kills the bill for the year.

UPDATE: State Senate scuttles 'personhood' bill | GoDanRiver.com

why would you have been against this?
I'm curious

I don't support it because it conflicts with the SCOTUS and would be a colossal waste of time to pass it just to have it overturned.

 

[koshergrl]

transvaginal ultrasound is less invasive then the abortion they are trying to get

Doesn't matter. They aren't asking for the ultrasound and the government has no right to force it on them. You people all bitched about the government forcing Catholic charities to pay for contraception, and rightly so, but then you turn around and have no problem with them forcing an ultrasound up a woman's cooch. See the hypocrisy here?

Nope,kinda hard to be a hypocrite and save lives at the same time.

The real tragically hypocritical angle,is that so many deny what they once were and what would and will be. Its always a human,be it boy or girl,never anything else,but are more than willing to kill their offspring for a long list of lame excuses ,but mostly just convenience.

Actually, it's more about forcing the abortion industry to be more accountable for what they do. They already are appallingly under-regulated. This is about making THEM provide the sort of care they claim they are all about...forcing THEM to be honest with their clients, forcing THEM to share information and provide women with options.

If "invasive" procedures are to be restricted, then we shouldn't allow abortions in the first place. Again, this isn't about the abortion industry and pro-abortionists protecting women. It's about exploiting them, refusing to provide them with the information they need to make informed decisions, and withholding knowledge from them, and stats from those who would monitor THEM. They don't want the world to know exactly how many late term babies they're cutting up and hiding.

 

[geauxtohell]

Doesn't matter. They aren't asking for the ultrasound and the government has no right to force it on them. You people all bitched about the government forcing Catholic charities to pay for contraception, and rightly so, but then you turn around and have no problem with them forcing an ultrasound up a woman's cooch. See the hypocrisy here?

Nope,kinda hard to be a hypocrite and save lives at the same time.

The real tragically hypocritical angle,is that so many deny what they once were and what would and will be. Its always a human,be it boy or girl,never anything else,but are more than willing to kill their offspring for a long list of lame excuses ,but mostly just convenience.

Actually, it's more about forcing the abortion industry to be more accountable for what they do. They already are appallingly under-regulated. This is about making THEM provide the sort of care they claim they are all about...forcing THEM to be honest with their clients, forcing THEM to share information and provide women with options.

If "invasive" procedures are to be restricted, then we shouldn't allow abortions in the first place. Again, this isn't about the abortion industry and pro-abortionists protecting women. It's about exploiting them, refusing to provide them with the information they need to make informed decisions, and withholding knowledge from them, and stats from those who would monitor THEM. They don't want the world to know exactly how many late term babies they're cutting up and hiding.

There is no need to do a transvaginal ultrasound past 14 weeks or so. This has nothing to with late term abortion.

Fail.

 

[koshergrl]

There is no need to perform the majority of abortions.

The point is, pro-abortionists don't give a shit about invasive procedures. They don't want women to see their babies, because they might make an informed choice and choose not to kill it.

Horrors. Choice. The one thing the progressives despise.

 

[geauxtohell]

There is no need to perform the majority of abortions.

The point is, pro-abortionists don't give a shit about invasive procedures. They don't want women to see their babies, because they might make an informed choice and choose not to kill it.

Horrors. Choice. The one thing the progressives despise.

I don't want to force women to look at their fetus. We also don't oppose procedures. I oppose procedures that aren't medically necessary.

Forcing women to see their fetus as an attempt to coerce is not medically necessary.