' a very Nixonian mistake'

[SniperFire]

'Nixon’s guilt was in trying to pervert the course of justice by persuading the FBI to drop its investigation of the crime.

Mistake number one, then, was to involve the White House in covering up the errors of a separate, autonomous political department. Mistake number two was that when Congress discovered that evidence about the scandal might be recorded on the White House bugging system, Nixon invoked executive privilege to protect the tapes. In both cases, it was the cover up that destroyed Tricky Dick – not the original crime.

And, forty years later almost to the day, here we have Obama making the same mistake. '

The Fast and Furious scandal is turning into President Obama's Watergate – Telegraph Blogs



Works for me. Whatever it takes to remove this asshole from office.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Liberals are doing damage control right now. obama is done.

 

[WillowTree]

It's not over til the fat lady sings.

 

[SniperFire]

 

[Moonglow]

what break in occurred to make Obama look like Nixon?

 

[SniperFire]

'President Obama’s attempt to invoke executive privilege to forestall contempt-of-Congress proceedings against Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. failed. Instead, the claim elevates the dispute between the administration and Capitol Hill to a new and troubling level. The operative question now is, what did the president know and when did he know it?'

EDITORIAL: Holder's contempt and Obama's privilege - Washington Times

 

[blastoff]

There is only one reason the documents aren't being given to the committee and anyone with but a few functioning brain cells knows what it is. Which I guess explains why the lefties in here are so clueless.

 

[Moonglow]

we''d stilllike to know who outed Plame, we would still like to know why all the judges were fired, you know all that stuff that Bush invoked executive privilidge for.

 

[The Rabbi]

we''d stilllike to know who outed Plame, we would still like to know why all the judges were fired, you know all that stuff that Bush invoked executive privilidge for.

Richard Armitage outed Plame, who was not a covert agent anyway. There were no convictions on the matter. btw.
There were no judges fired. Presidents do not have that power.
There were attorneys general fired. They serve at the pleasure of the Presdeint of the United States.
Bush invoked EP to protect issues from the Reno justice department from coming under unnecessary scrutiny.

Now that you've finished deflceting, do you see how Obama invoking EP is similar to Nixon doing it?

 

[Sokar]

we''d stilllike to know who outed Plame, we would still like to know why all the judges were fired, you know all that stuff that Bush invoked executive privilidge for.

Nobody gives a fuck what you still want to know.

That's not the topic here.

 

[Moonglow]

no, many presidents have used ep. No big deal

 

[Moonglow]

we''d stilllike to know who outed Plame, we would still like to know why all the judges were fired, you know all that stuff that Bush invoked executive privilidge for.

Nobody gives a fuck what you still want to know.

That's not the topic here.

u must

 

[Dick Tuck]

'Nixon’s guilt was in trying to pervert the course of justice by persuading the FBI to drop its investigation of the crime.

Mistake number one, then, was to involve the White House in covering up the errors of a separate, autonomous political department. Mistake number two was that when Congress discovered that evidence about the scandal might be recorded on the White House bugging system, Nixon invoked executive privilege to protect the tapes. In both cases, it was the cover up that destroyed Tricky Dick – not the original crime.

And, forty years later almost to the day, here we have Obama making the same mistake. '

The Fast and Furious scandal is turning into President Obama's Watergate – Telegraph Blogs



Works for me. Whatever it takes to remove this asshole from office.

Not even close. First off, no evidence exists that the top level of the administration is covering anything up. What we do know is there's an on-going investigation by the Inspector General, which was started by Holder as some of the facts came to his attention. Congress wants to interfere with an ongoing investigation and documents relating to what options the DOJ and WH might consider. Over 7,000 documents were already given to Issa's committee. He's now demanding that memos regarding discussion and advisement be handed over. Sorry man, but that doesn't cut it.

If you want a closer example of a Watergate like scheme, I suggest looking at how Bush covered up the mass firing of US attorneys. Do you really believe that Bush would not be personally involved with a decision like that?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

'Nixon’s guilt was in trying to pervert the course of justice by persuading the FBI to drop its investigation of the crime.

Mistake number one, then, was to involve the White House in covering up the errors of a separate, autonomous political department. Mistake number two was that when Congress discovered that evidence about the scandal might be recorded on the White House bugging system, Nixon invoked executive privilege to protect the tapes. In both cases, it was the cover up that destroyed Tricky Dick – not the original crime.

And, forty years later almost to the day, here we have Obama making the same mistake. '

The Fast and Furious scandal is turning into President Obama's Watergate – Telegraph Blogs



Works for me. Whatever it takes to remove this asshole from office.

Not even close. First off, no evidence exists that the top level of the administration is covering anything up. What we do know is there's an on-going investigation by the Inspector General, which was started by Holder as some of the facts came to his attention. Congress wants to interfere with an ongoing investigation and documents relating to what options the DOJ and WH might consider. Over 7,000 documents were already given to Issa's committee. He's now demanding that memos regarding discussion and advisement be handed over. Sorry man, but that doesn't cut it.

If you want a closer example of a Watergate like scheme, I suggest looking at how Bush covered up the mass firing of US attorneys. Do you really believe that Bush would not be personally involved with a decision like that?

It's all moot since obama used executive privilege he used it because he knew about fast and the furious.

 

[Dick Tuck]

I guess you can't really expect much from a UK blog to understand Watergate. The issue in Watergate was whether executive privilege could be used to cover-up a crime by a sitting president, after sworn testimony showed a preponderance of evidence that there was. Even there, Nixon's tapes were not turned over to congress. Rather a Federal Judge decided what transcripts from those tapes were relevant to the impeachment case being made. The judge put in all those "explitive deleteds" if you recall.

Now if you can show a similar example of something like the Bork Cox Sacking here, I'd be interested.

 

[SniperFire]

'Nixon’s guilt was in trying to pervert the course of justice by persuading the FBI to drop its investigation of the crime.

Mistake number one, then, was to involve the White House in covering up the errors of a separate, autonomous political department. Mistake number two was that when Congress discovered that evidence about the scandal might be recorded on the White House bugging system, Nixon invoked executive privilege to protect the tapes. In both cases, it was the cover up that destroyed Tricky Dick – not the original crime.

And, forty years later almost to the day, here we have Obama making the same mistake. '

The Fast and Furious scandal is turning into President Obama's Watergate – Telegraph Blogs



Works for me. Whatever it takes to remove this asshole from office.

Not even close. First off, no evidence exists that the top level of the administration is covering anything up.

Damn. You are a sheep.

 

[Dick Tuck]

'Nixon’s guilt was in trying to pervert the course of justice by persuading the FBI to drop its investigation of the crime.

Mistake number one, then, was to involve the White House in covering up the errors of a separate, autonomous political department. Mistake number two was that when Congress discovered that evidence about the scandal might be recorded on the White House bugging system, Nixon invoked executive privilege to protect the tapes. In both cases, it was the cover up that destroyed Tricky Dick – not the original crime.

And, forty years later almost to the day, here we have Obama making the same mistake. '

The Fast and Furious scandal is turning into President Obama's Watergate – Telegraph Blogs



Works for me. Whatever it takes to remove this asshole from office.

Not even close. First off, no evidence exists that the top level of the administration is covering anything up. What we do know is there's an on-going investigation by the Inspector General, which was started by Holder as some of the facts came to his attention. Congress wants to interfere with an ongoing investigation and documents relating to what options the DOJ and WH might consider. Over 7,000 documents were already given to Issa's committee. He's now demanding that memos regarding discussion and advisement be handed over. Sorry man, but that doesn't cut it.

If you want a closer example of a Watergate like scheme, I suggest looking at how Bush covered up the mass firing of US attorneys. Do you really believe that Bush would not be personally involved with a decision like that?

It's all moot since obama used executive privilege he used it because he knew about fast and the furious.

He used it because there's an ongoing investigation and the documents being demanded include advise he was given by personal staff. Just like the executive privilege Bush invoked after the attorney firing. There isn't a hint of evidence that the use of executive privilege in this case is being used to cover-up a crime, by a sitting president.

It's stupid to try to equate this to Watergate. It doesn't even meet the standard of Blowjob gate.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I guess you can't really expect much from a UK blog to understand Watergate. The issue in Watergate was whether executive privilege could be used to cover-up a crime by a sitting president, after sworn testimony showed a preponderance of evidence that there was. Even there, Nixon's tapes were not turned over to congress. Rather a Federal Judge decided what transcripts from those tapes were relevant to the impeachment case being made. The judge put in all those "explitive deleteds" if you recall.

Now if you can show a similar example of something like the Bork Cox Sacking here, I'd be interested.

The courts have consistently held that executive privilege is not absolute and can be “overcome by an adequate showing of need.” This is a flexible standard and does not lend itself to clear predictions about whether a particular assertion of executive privilege will be upheld, but the courts have provided some guidelines to govern claims of executive privilege. The Supreme Court held in United States v. Nixon, for example, that a claim of executive privilege will normally be defeated when the privileged information is needed to provide evidence in a criminal trial—although the strong presumption against revealing information that would jeopardize national security would control even in this instance.
Executive Privilege 101

In other words
http://www.usmessageboard.com/5484891-post1.html

 

[Dick Tuck]

'Nixon’s guilt was in trying to pervert the course of justice by persuading the FBI to drop its investigation of the crime.

Mistake number one, then, was to involve the White House in covering up the errors of a separate, autonomous political department. Mistake number two was that when Congress discovered that evidence about the scandal might be recorded on the White House bugging system, Nixon invoked executive privilege to protect the tapes. In both cases, it was the cover up that destroyed Tricky Dick – not the original crime.

And, forty years later almost to the day, here we have Obama making the same mistake. '

The Fast and Furious scandal is turning into President Obama's Watergate – Telegraph Blogs



Works for me. Whatever it takes to remove this asshole from office.

Not even close. First off, no evidence exists that the top level of the administration is covering anything up.

Damn. You are a sheep.

You're the one who's trying to blow smoke up our ass, using an illogical OP, from a UK right wing blog. So how can there be a cover-up, when there's a IG investigation, requested by Holder, in progress?

 

[MuadDib]

we''d stilllike to know who outed Plame, we would still like to know why all the judges were fired, you know all that stuff that Bush invoked executive privilidge for.

Nobody gives a fuck what you still want to know.

That's not the topic here.

It's always B_sh's fault!