Country Over Party

[whitehall]

Watergate looks like child's play compared to Clinton and now Biden. The fact is that republicans abandoned Nixon and that's why he resigned. Can you imagine WAPO having an informant in the Clinton W.H. and having two reporters claiming that the unverified information from an unidentified informant was factual? Can you imagine keeping the identity of an important political informant secret until he freaking died? Nixon was a HUAC prosecutor and one of the WAPO reporters was the son of card carrying communists and no doubt was brought up with an abiding hatred for Nixon. The media kept it secret for political reasons. Imagine if the situation was reversed.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Your head is chock full of manufactured bullshit you have consumed from your propagandists. It has been shown time and time again to you that your propagandists have lied to you, and yet you keep going back for more lies from them.

You BEG to be lied to.

"I want to bleev it, so it must be true!'


No one forced Trump to fuck a porn star and then use a cutout to pay her off to keep her story from influencing the 2016 election.

The FBI did not force Trump to claim his 11,000 square foot apartment is 30,000 square feet.

The CIA did not force Trump to lie to the elderly and steal from them at his fake University.

The NSA did not force Trump to hide stolen documents which belonged to the government from the National Archives.

Obama did not make Trump foment a coup.

Biden did not make Trump create illegal fake electors.

The intel agencies didn't force Trump to rape a woman.

Comey did not force Trump to steal money from cancer kids.

Wray did not force Trump to steal money from the Holocaust Museum.

Hillary did not force Trump to steal money from the United Negro College Fund.

My Point: the democrat Fascist went full fascist on Trump

g5000: Orange Man Bad!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

They have to create false equivalence to distract themselves from the fact that their party leadership sucks out loud and seems to come straight out of Deliverance. They want to pretend everything is hunky dory. They are taught GOP leadership nevers missteps or does anything wrong. The 'evil' comes from 'over there'. Can't do much with that.

More like deplorable.

Deliverance? Which Party leader showers with their daughter and has a son snorting coke?

 

[eagle7-31]

One single case of obstruction of justice was enough for the old school Republicans to realize the rule of law was more important than an imperial President. A man who believed "it isn't illegal if the President does it".

And the dems look the other way when its one of their own. Clean up your side of fence and come talk to me.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Deliverance? Which Party leader showers with their daughter and has a son snorting coke?

Dunno. Which one?

 

[g5000]

It now turns out Jack Smith has found the Top Secret document Trump showed to the interviewers to puff himself up.

That's an additional charge in the superceding indictment.

How much longer will Trump's elected lickspittles stand by him?

 

[g5000]

And the dems look the other way when its one of their own. Clean up your side of fence and come talk to me.

I have no party, dipshit. Did you not understand what I was saying about Fallacy of the Excluded Middle, aka False Dichotomy?

And now you have piled on a tu quoque fallacy.

What a useless idiot you are!

 

[g5000]

My Point: the democrat Fascist went full fascist on Trump

No one forced Trump to fuck a porn star and then use a cutout to pay her off to keep her story from influencing the 2016 election.

The FBI did not force Trump to claim his 11,000 square foot apartment is 30,000 square feet.

The CIA did not force Trump to lie to the elderly and steal from them at his fake University.

The NSA did not force Trump to hide stolen documents which belonged to the government from the National Archives.

Obama did not make Trump foment a coup.

Biden did not make Trump create illegal fake electors.

The intel agencies didn't force Trump to rape a woman.

Comey did not force Trump to steal money from cancer kids.

Wray did not force Trump to steal money from the Holocaust Museum.

Hillary did not force Trump to steal money from the United Negro College Fund.


All you tards can do in the face of these realities is whine, "Nuh-uh!"

Sad.

 

[g5000]

Caught on tape:

"Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this."

"See, as president, I could have declassified it. Now I can't, you know, but this is still a secret."

 

[eagle7-31]

I have no party, dipshit. Did you not understand what I was saying about Fallacy of the Excluded Middle, aka False Dichotomy?

And now you have piled on a tu quoque fallacy.

What a useless idiot you are!

I am saying the Democrats are like that. Whatever affiliation you have I could care less.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dunno. Which one?

Who calls their Dad “PedoPete”?

 

[g5000]

I am saying the Democrats are like that. Whatever affiliation you have I could care less.

What the Democrats are like has nothing to do with Trump's proven criminality.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Who calls their Dad “PedoPete”?

Why don't you stop wasting my time?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What the Democrats are like has nothing to do with Trump's proven criminality.

Meh. A little Fascism never hurt anyone

 

[g5000]

After the document indictment was released, here is what Trump said on Faux News about the secret document he showed to the lackeys:

“There was no document. That was a massive amount of papers and everything else talking about Iran and other things. And it may have been held up or may not, but that was not a document. I didn’t have a document per se. There was nothing to declassify. These were newspaper stories, magazine stories and articles.”

The superseding indictment shows Trump has lied once again to his willfully credulous and stupid tard herd.

 

[Mac1958]

They have to create false equivalence to distract themselves from the fact that their party leadership sucks out loud and seems to come straight out of Deliverance. They want to pretend everything is hunky dory. They are taught GOP leadership nevers missteps or does anything wrong. The 'evil' comes from 'over there'. Can't do much with that.

Exactly. And that goes back to the question I always have: Do they REALLY believe this stuff, or are they just playing games, lying?

Seriously, I would much prefer that they were lying. But I'm very concerned that they're so deluded that they really do believe it.

The Manson girls really did believe what they believed. At least at a conscious level.

 

[Mac1958]

The superseding indictment shows Trump has lied once again to his willfully credulous and stupid tard herd.

There has been simply so much material evidence over the last seven years that he is a liar and a con man that it's clear that normal rules simply don't apply to him.

What the fuck is this? How does this happen? What hole is he filling in their lives? Is this desperation? Why are they so willing to ignore and defend this stuff?

I keep trying to understand this, and I understand it a bit more than I did, but some of this is just a psychological black box. Inexplicable.

 

[SweetSue92]

During the Watergate scandal and subsequent Senate investigation, the Republican Party stood steadfastly with Nixon, which was the right and honorable thing to do.

The Senate hearings were broadcast live and were must-see TV. It was as popular a show as the OJ trial would be later.

During the investigation it was revealed Nixon had stupidly recorded his conversations in the Oval Office. The Senate then subpoenaed those tapes.

Of course, Nixon fought tooth and nail to prevent the tapes from being aired and took it to the Supreme Court, and they overruled him.
Before turning the tapes over, Nixon edited them. There was an infamous "18 minute gap" on one of them.

Nevertheless, there was a recording of Nixon and his Chief of Staff, H.R. Haldeman, discussing a strategy to obstruct the FBI's probe into the Watergate break-in. It was a clearcut case of obstruction of justice.

That particular recording is what caused the Republicans to put the country above party and they signaled to Nixon they would now support an impeachment and conviction, forcing him from office.

Rather than subject himself to this indignity, Nixon resigned.

Today, the Trump cult in the House and Senate are confronted with the same choice. Party or country? Politics or the rule of law?

I sadly predict they will choose to remain hostage to Trump rather than faithful to the rule of law.

Your folks played a 30 year war--maybe more--of "party over country" and NOW you want to change tactics?

Much too late for that.

Your game.

Your rules.

You will hate it.

 

[SweetSue92]

Exactly. And that goes back to the question I always have: Do they REALLY believe this stuff, or are they just playing games, lying?

Seriously, I would much prefer that they were lying. But I'm very concerned that they're so deluded that they really do believe it.

The Manson girls really did believe what they believed. At least at a conscious level.

Has the high you get from typing all this stuff been a case of diminishing returns, like for strung out emaciated heroin addicts?

It must be like that--like each time you return for the endorphin rush of typing this nonsense it just doesn't hit like it did in 2015/2016. But man, Mac/Gigi, you keep on injecting that self-righteousness straight into your collapsing veins....

 

[Mac1958]

Has the high you get from typing all this stuff been a case of diminishing returns, like for strung out emaciated heroin addicts?

It must be like that--like each time you return for the endorphin rush of typing this nonsense it just doesn't hit like it did in 2015/2016. But man, Mac/Gigi, you keep on injecting that self-righteousness straight into your collapsing veins....

More personal attacks, bleh...