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You mean like how feminist women adore "feminist" men?Yes. You adore women...just so long as they remember their place, and do as they're told, right?So, you want to permanently mutilate women's bodies for daring to not do as you command them? And, the anti-choice crowd wonders why the rest of us perceive them as hating women….
It's not about mutilation. It's about responsibility and the consequences of choices. I adore women. I have no use for Feminists. Unfortunately we have far more of the latter than the former in this country.
I don't give a fucking damn what you want. This is a public forum so, STFU.I don't write only to the single person.
Then please do not respond to my posts on any particular topic in the future, as they represent only MY views, opinions, morals and values; not necessarily those of anyone else.
We don't. Science says a fetus isn't a person yet, and they are often spontaneously aborted, and you sometimes have to induce abortion to save the health or life of the woman. That is the science, which you refuse to accept.Why do liberals claim to respect science while totally ignoring it when it comes to abortion?
I don't give a fucking damn what you want. This is a public forum so, STFU.
That is nothing more than the opinions of some scientists. There is no actual reason why a fetus can't be a person, especially when you can go to jail for killing a fetus.We don't. Science says a fetus isn't a person yet, and they are often spontaneously aborted, and you sometimes have to induce abortion to save the health or life of the woman. That is the science, which you refuse to accept.Why do liberals claim to respect science while totally ignoring it when it comes to abortion?
Nonsense. Science says a near full term unborn baby is a living human being. Pro-aborts strenuously try to deny that.We don't. Science says a fetus isn't a person yet, and they are often spontaneously aborted, and you sometimes have to induce abortion to save the health or life of the woman. That is the science, which you refuse to accept.Why do liberals claim to respect science while totally ignoring it when it comes to abortion?
Name one?Nonsense. Science says a near full term unborn baby is a living human being. Pro-aborts strenuously try to deny that.We don't. Science says a fetus isn't a person yet, and they are often spontaneously aborted, and you sometimes have to induce abortion to save the health or life of the woman. That is the science, which you refuse to accept.Why do liberals claim to respect science while totally ignoring it when it comes to abortion?
It could be a person, if we legally call it that, but it ain't a person as far as science is concerned. It's a fetus, that's why it has the funny nameThat is nothing more than the opinions of some scientists. There is no actual reason why a fetus can't be a person, especially when you can go to jail for killing a fetus.We don't. Science says a fetus isn't a person yet, and they are often spontaneously aborted, and you sometimes have to induce abortion to save the health or life of the woman. That is the science, which you refuse to accept.Why do liberals claim to respect science while totally ignoring it when it comes to abortion?
And I would have no problem with your position if it were only "near full term" abortions that you wanted to limit. But, it isn't, is it?Nonsense. Science says a near full term unborn baby is a living human being. Pro-aborts strenuously try to deny that.We don't. Science says a fetus isn't a person yet, and they are often spontaneously aborted, and you sometimes have to induce abortion to save the health or life of the woman. That is the science, which you refuse to accept.Why do liberals claim to respect science while totally ignoring it when it comes to abortion?
Anyone who is irresponsible enough to get pregnant when they can't afford it or can't handle being a parent is an absolute detriment to society.So, you want to permanently mutilate women's bodies for daring to not do as you command them? And, the anti-choice crowd wonders why the rest of us perceive them as hating women…Very simple...... the penalty for an abortion should be sterilization. We can discuss the specific type, but I'm in favor of complete removal of the ovaries.
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A child born at 8 months gestation is identical to his/her twin that is yet unborn. Yet pro-aborts would have you believe that something magical, ie, not biological, happens to make one a living human and the other, well, something else.Name one?Nonsense. Science says a near full term unborn baby is a living human being. Pro-aborts strenuously try to deny that.We don't. Science says a fetus isn't a person yet, and they are often spontaneously aborted, and you sometimes have to induce abortion to save the health or life of the woman. That is the science, which you refuse to accept.Why do liberals claim to respect science while totally ignoring it when it comes to abortion?
And it's a near full-term fetus. It has the name fetus for a reason. A nearly completed motorcycle is not an almost full-term car, it's a motorcycle.
By the same token, pro-aborts don't REALLY want to just preserve abortion for rape and incest victims, do they? Yet, that is what we hear ad nauseum when we talk about wanting to protect minor girls, for example, from making hasty, permanent decisions driven by fear. At this point, I know our society will never accept a ban on abortion. That doesn't make me any less determined to find common ground and save as many lives as I can.And I would have no problem with your position if it were only "near full term" abortions that you wanted to limit. But, it isn't, is it?Nonsense. Science says a near full term unborn baby is a living human being. Pro-aborts strenuously try to deny that.We don't. Science says a fetus isn't a person yet, and they are often spontaneously aborted, and you sometimes have to induce abortion to save the health or life of the woman. That is the science, which you refuse to accept.Why do liberals claim to respect science while totally ignoring it when it comes to abortion?
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By the same token, pro-aborts don't REALLY want to just preserve abortion for rape and incest victims, do they? Yet, that is what we hear ad nauseum when we talk about wanting to protect minor girls, for example, from making hasty, permanent decisions driven by fear. At this point, I know our society will never accept a ban on abortion. That doesn't make me any less determined to find common ground and save as many lives as I can.And I would have no problem with your position if it were only "near full term" abortions that you wanted to limit. But, it isn't, is it?Nonsense. Science says a near full term unborn baby is a living human being. Pro-aborts strenuously try to deny that.We don't. Science says a fetus isn't a person yet, and they are often spontaneously aborted, and you sometimes have to induce abortion to save the health or life of the woman. That is the science, which you refuse to accept.Why do liberals claim to respect science while totally ignoring it when it comes to abortion?
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No, it is not. For one thing it's about half the size, and has a much higher risk of death.A child born at 8 months gestation is identical to his/her twin that is yet unborn.
If someone were to stick a pair of scissors into the born baby's head and suck the brain out through a hose, he would be prosecuted as a murderer, yes? If, however, someone were to pull the unborn twin (at the exact same stage of development) almost out of the womb and do the EXACT same thing, there would be no prosecution, yes? The difference in status is legal, not biological.No, it is not. For one thing it's about half the size, and has a much higher risk of death.A child born at 8 months gestation is identical to his/her twin that is yet unborn.
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That has nothing to do with why and how liberals are anti-science when it comes to abortion.By the same token, pro-aborts don't REALLY want to just preserve abortion for rape and incest victims, do they? Yet, that is what we hear ad nauseum when we talk about wanting to protect minor girls, for example, from making hasty, permanent decisions driven by fear. At this point, I know our society will never accept a ban on abortion. That doesn't make me any less determined to find common ground and save as many lives as I can.And I would have no problem with your position if it were only "near full term" abortions that you wanted to limit. But, it isn't, is it?Nonsense. Science says a near full term unborn baby is a living human being. Pro-aborts strenuously try to deny that.We don't. Science says a fetus isn't a person yet, and they are often spontaneously aborted, and you sometimes have to induce abortion to save the health or life of the woman. That is the science, which you refuse to accept.Why do liberals claim to respect science while totally ignoring it when it comes to abortion?
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Not from me you don't. The "rape, incest, and health of the mother" bullshit are the anti-choice exceptions they always add to make taking the choice away from women more palatable. So, long as a fetus is non-viable, it is not a person, and is therefore the property of a pregnant woman.
However, you have again removed this argument to the abstract. Let's keep it grounded, shall we? Based on your position, what should be the punishment of the woman who chooses to have an abortion?
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You ride the short bus, don't you?Anyone who is irresponsible enough to get pregnant when they can't afford it or can't handle being a parent is an absolute detriment to society.So, you want to permanently mutilate women's bodies for daring to not do as you command them? And, the anti-choice crowd wonders why the rest of us perceive them as hating women…Very simple...... the penalty for an abortion should be sterilization. We can discuss the specific type, but I'm in favor of complete removal of the ovaries.
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So judgmental, and so ignorant ^^^.
Can you really be this stupid?It could be a person, if we legally call it that, but it ain't a person as far as science is concerned. It's a fetus, that's why it has the funny nameThat is nothing more than the opinions of some scientists. There is no actual reason why a fetus can't be a person, especially when you can go to jail for killing a fetus.We don't. Science says a fetus isn't a person yet, and they are often spontaneously aborted, and you sometimes have to induce abortion to save the health or life of the woman. That is the science, which you refuse to accept.Why do liberals claim to respect science while totally ignoring it when it comes to abortion?