A Plea to Atheists: Pedophilia is next on the Slippery Slope . . .

[M.D. Rawlings]

it goes to the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of materialism and the irrationality of moral relativism as opposed to moral absolutism.

Yet another moron who equates lack of belief in deities with moral relativism and materialism. One can be irreligious and yet not a moral relativist or materialist. My ethics are somewhere between deontology and utilitarianism. Your simplistic mistake is that you believe that atheism equals moral relativism. That's simply not true.

Yet another silly ass disregarding the context of the article under discussion. The author is concerned with the relativism or consequentialism of materialism. Hello! If you're going to expand upon the discussion or change the context then give a heads up.

Where did I ever state the obviously stupid non sequitur that the irreligious were necessarily moral relativists or materialists? Straw man much?

In any event, you just failed the truth test, didn't you, liar?

So, since I never made such a claim, moron, who's the moron, moron?

 

[catzmeow]

Where did I ever state the obviously stupid non sequitur that the irreligious were necessarily moral relativists or materialists?

You did, in the section of your post that i quoted. Would you like to revise your opinion after being advised that other options exist?

 

[NGSamson]

nice dodge! ..the word is acceptedefinition of ACCEPTED
: generally approved or used <an accepted convention>
&#8212; ac·cept·ed·ly adverb
First Known Use of ACCEPTED
15th century
not: Definition of EXCEPT
transitive verb
: to take or leave out from a number or a whole : exclude
intransitive verb
: to take exception : object
&#8212; ex·cep·tive \-&#712;sep-t&#601;v\ adjective
See except defined for English-language learners »
Examples of EXCEPT
Children were excepted from the study.
<I must except to your remark that there are no great novelists currently living.>
Origin of EXCEPT
Middle English, from Anglo-French excepter, from Latin exceptare, frequentative of excipere to take out, except, from ex- + capere to take &#8212; more at heave
First Known Use: 14th century
also, i did not ask if homosexuality was covered in the bible .
my statement was: "Jesus never said much if anything about it"...it's a statement of fact.
how could my statement be bigoted?
BTW you completely sidestepped this issue of Christian drinking, is it one of the lifestyles you assume that I'm bigoted against ?

No. I did not. I drink. At times I drink to much. Drinking is not a sin. Drinking to excess is. We are human and we do that at times. Your ignorance of what is and is not covered in the bible is your problem, and you like catsmeaow will google what ever backs up your mode of thought. That is a tactic of the pseudo intellectual. You and the other one should get together and hug so you guys can boost your self esteem.

wrong again ASSumption man...googleing the bible for me would be overkill..I grew up in a "religious"home I've read the Bible, the Koran, the Talmud etc.
I have no ax to grind..but you have proven that many "Christians" like you only read the parts of the bible that you like and disregard the rest..if that's not the very definition of "pseudo intellectual" there isn't one.
BTW congratulations on another fine dodge!

You have read shit, and you are a bad liar. I bet you are buds with rdean as well.

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1.
a person exhibiting intellectual pretensions that have no basis in sound scholarship.
2.
a person who pretends an interest in intellectual matters for reasons of status.

Pseudointellectual | Define Pseudointellectual at Dictionary.com

This fits you, and your ilk to a "T". I bet you also hang out at Starbucks sipping black tea with a copy of one of Friedrich Nietzsche's books on the table that you grabbed off the discount rack so you look smart with your Sarah Palin glasses on. Sorry dude, your self esteem issues are glaring. This definition fits you better then pseudo intellectual does.

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Isn't it time to get more Starbucks money from mommie now ?Or better yet, you can go stroke meaow's ego and have a rep orgy so you guys can fell better about what you wish you were. Ya, Schmendrik.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Where did I ever state the obviously stupid non sequitur that the irreligious were necessarily moral relativists or materialists?

You did, in the section of your post that i quoted. Would you like to revise your opinion after being advised that other options exist?

Bull!

The statement that irreligious persons are necessarily moral relativists or materialists&#8212;an obviously stupid non sequitur&#8212;is not anywhere near the planet of the observation that the author's point in the article pertains "to the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of materialism and the irrationality of moral relativism as opposed to moral absolutism."

Further, my observation goes to the author's point, not necessarily mine. How could the thought apply to me in any event? But of course the author is not asserting any such absurdly stupid non sequitur either!

Why do you dig the hole even deeper rather than simply acknowledge your error? I can barely see the top of your head now.

 

[Avatar9]

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[NGSamson]

Objective Morality vs. Christianity - YouTube

Can't Have It Both Ways - YouTube

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[Avatar9]

Judeo-Christianity does not teach that genocide is okay.

So it teaches god is evil for ordering it during the conquest of Canaan?

One of whom he loved

And what, exactly, is a straight or gay lifestyle? Because I know people, gay and straight, who live very different lifestyles. Is the gay lifestyle sitting in the library with a book and a sweater around your shoulders, listening to classical music? Is the straight lifestyle football, nascar, beer, and sleeping with as many chicks as you can?

Thanks for pointing that out. Homosexuality is not a "lifestyle". It's a way of being.

Daws, yes it is.

And what, exactly, is a straight or gay lifestyle? Because I know people, gay and straight, who live very different lifestyles. Is the gay lifestyle sitting in the library with a book and a sweater around your shoulders, listening to classical music? Is the straight lifestyle football, nascar, beer, and sleeping with as many chicks as you can?

Gay lifestyle:
-dress like you care about your appearance
-use lube and condoms
-be fabulous
-know how to color coordinate
-be together with your partner for 25 years, despite not being legally allowed to marry
-hygiene

Straight Lifestyle:
-NASCAR!!!!!!1
-BEER!!!!
-BOOBIES!!!
-Sex with as many women as possible, with on condom , because you, sir, are a MAN, not some fag
-PORN!
-Weekly baths...sometimes bi-weekly
-Never shave. You're not some metrosexual faggot- you look like a bum because you're a MAN

 

[NGSamson]

Judeo-Christianity does not teach that genocide is okay.

So it teaches god is evil for ordering it during the conquest of Canaan?

Thanks for pointing that out. Homosexuality is not a "lifestyle". It's a way of being.

Daws, yes it is.

And what, exactly, is a straight or gay lifestyle? Because I know people, gay and straight, who live very different lifestyles. Is the gay lifestyle sitting in the library with a book and a sweater around your shoulders, listening to classical music? Is the straight lifestyle football, nascar, beer, and sleeping with as many chicks as you can?

Gay lifestyle:
-dress like you care about your appearance
-use lube and condoms
-be fabulous
-know how to color coordinate
-be together with your partner for 25 years, despite not being legally allowed to marry
-hygiene

Straight Lifestyle:
-NASCAR!!!!!!1
-BEER!!!!
-BOOBIES!!!
-Sex with as many women as possible, with on condom , because you, sir, are a MAN, not some fag
-PORN!
-Weekly baths...sometimes bi-weekly
-Never shave. You're not some metrosexual faggot- you look like a bum because you're a MAN

When he is greeted by his gay friends the refer to them selves and each other as sister. All of this times ten-

Gay lifestyle:
-dress like you care about your appearance
-use lube and condoms
-be fabulous
-know how to color coordinate
-be together with your partner for 25 years, despite not being legally allowed to marry
-hygiene

And he is proud of it. His ability to coordinate color is amazing, and when you are designing and executing the finish carpentry on a yacht it is critical. And all that aside the guy is a genuinely decent fellow and good person at heart.

 

[NGSamson]

Judeo-Christianity does not teach that genocide is okay.

So it teaches god is evil for ordering it during the conquest of Canaan?

Thanks for pointing that out. Homosexuality is not a "lifestyle". It's a way of being.

Daws, yes it is.

And what, exactly, is a straight or gay lifestyle? Because I know people, gay and straight, who live very different lifestyles. Is the gay lifestyle sitting in the library with a book and a sweater around your shoulders, listening to classical music? Is the straight lifestyle football, nascar, beer, and sleeping with as many chicks as you can?

Gay lifestyle:
-dress like you care about your appearance
-use lube and condoms
-be fabulous
-know how to color coordinate
-be together with your partner for 25 years, despite not being legally allowed to marry
-hygiene

Straight Lifestyle:
-NASCAR!!!!!!1
-BEER!!!!
-BOOBIES!!!
-Sex with as many women as possible, with on condom , because you, sir, are a MAN, not some fag
-PORN!
-Weekly baths...sometimes bi-weekly
-Never shave. You're not some metrosexual faggot- you look like a bum because you're a MAN

Oh so you admit you are wrong then ?

A Plea to Atheists:... 09-01-2011 05:36 PM Avatar9 Willfull ignorance, obtyuseness, and childishness

I will get you one back tomorrow. You dont lose to gracefully do you ? And negged for quoting the weak minded.

 

[Avatar9]

All of this times ten-

Gay lifestyle:
-dress like you care about your appearance
-use lube and condoms
-be fabulous
-know how to color coordinate
-be together with your partner for 25 years, despite not being legally allowed to marry
-hygiene

And he is proud of it. His ability to coordinate color is amazing, and when you are designing and executing the finish carpentry on a yacht it is critical. And all that aside the guy is a genuinely decent fellow and good person at heart.

You claim the bible says the gay lifestye is not acceptable. You claim the above is the gay lifestyle. Please show me where the bible says you may not have style, shower regularly, or be faithful to your partner whether the secular authorities recognize your union or not.

 

[Lokiate]

So it seems religion is the only thing that stops pedophilia

A .45 ACP works so much better.

 

[NGSamson]

All of this times ten-

Gay lifestyle:
-dress like you care about your appearance
-use lube and condoms
-be fabulous
-know how to color coordinate
-be together with your partner for 25 years, despite not being legally allowed to marry
-hygiene

And he is proud of it. His ability to coordinate color is amazing, and when you are designing and executing the finish carpentry on a yacht it is critical. And all that aside the guy is a genuinely decent fellow and good person at heart.

You claim the bible says the gay lifestye is not acceptable. You claim the above is the gay lifestyle. Please show me where the bible says you may not have style, shower regularly, or be faithful to your partner whether the secular authorities recognize your union or not.

You are a looser. You cant win on facts, and you dont have the brain power to stick to the OP so you and others drag the thread down to bashing Christians. You also try and get those who are Christians to play your game and make a statement so you can cut, and past it so it supports your point of view, then when they dont play you neg rep the. And just like the other who do the same thing, you hide your rep because you use it when you are beaten and have nothing else to say. Run along now.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Judeo-Christianity does not teach that genocide is okay.

So it teaches god is evil for ordering it during the conquest of Canaan?

Of course not, how silly. It entails the judgment of a depraved society by a righteous God putting an end to said depravity. In a number of other instances, God forgave and spared the depraved when they repented, including the depraved of non-Hebraic societies.

You're really, REALLY reachin,' bro.

to put it another way "you're talking alot but not saying anything" David Burne /the talking heads

Not with a bang, but a whimper.

 

[daws101]

no. I did not. I drink. At times i drink to much. Drinking is not a sin. Drinking to excess is. We are human and we do that at times. Your ignorance of what is and is not covered in the bible is your problem, and you like catsmeaow will google what ever backs up your mode of thought. That is a tactic of the pseudo intellectual. You and the other one should get together and hug so you guys can boost your self esteem.

wrong again assumption man...googleing the bible for me would be overkill..i grew up in a "religious"home i've read the bible, the koran, the talmud etc.
I have no ax to grind..but you have proven that many "christians" like you only read the parts of the bible that you like and disregard the rest..if that's not the very definition of "pseudo intellectual" there isn't one.
Btw congratulations on another fine dodge!

you have read shit, and you are a bad liar. I bet you are buds with rdean as well.

Pseu·do·in·tel·lec·tu·al
&#8194; &#8194;[soo-doh-in-tl-ek-choo-uhl] show ipa
noun
1.
A person exhibiting intellectual pretensions that have no basis in sound scholarship.
2.
A person who pretends an interest in intellectual matters for reasons of status.

pseudointellectual | define pseudointellectual at dictionary.com

this fits you, and your ilk to a "t". I bet you also hang out at starbucks sipping black tea with a copy of one of friedrich nietzsche's books on the table that you grabbed off the discount rack so you look smart with your sarah palin glasses on. Sorry dude, your self esteem issues are glaring. This definition fits you better then pseudo intellectual does.

Definition for internet troll:
In internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, , or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response.

Isn't it time to get more starbucks money from mommie now ?or better yet, you can go stroke meaow's ego and have a rep orgy so you guys can fell better about what you wish you were. Ya, schmendrik.

lamo....and still wrong!

 

[daws101]

all of this times ten-

gay lifestyle:
-dress like you care about your appearance
-use lube and condoms
-be fabulous
-know how to color coordinate
-be together with your partner for 25 years, despite not being legally allowed to marry
-hygiene

and he is proud of it. His ability to coordinate color is amazing, and when you are designing and executing the finish carpentry on a yacht it is critical. And all that aside the guy is a genuinely decent fellow and good person at heart.

you claim the bible says the gay lifestye is not acceptable. You claim the above is the gay lifestyle. Please show me where the bible says you may not have style, shower regularly, or be faithful to your partner whether the secular authorities recognize your union or not.

you are a looser. You cant win on facts, and you dont have the brain power to stick to the op so you and others drag the thread down to bashing christians. You also try and get those who are christians to play your game and make a statement so you can cut, and past it so it supports your point of view, then when they dont play you neg rep the. And just like the other who do the same thing, you hide your rep because you use it when you are beaten and have nothing else to say. Run along now.

there's that world famous christian humbleness and love!

 

[daws101]

Judeo-Christianity does not teach that genocide is okay.

So it teaches god is evil for ordering it during the conquest of Canaan?

Of course not, how silly. It entails the judgment of a depraved society by a righteous God putting an end to said depravity. In a number of other instances, God forgave and spared the depraved when they repented, including the depraved of non-Hebraic societies.

You're really, REALLY reachin,' bro.

to put it another way "you're talking alot but not saying anything" David Burne /the talking heads

Not with a bang, but a whimper.

you're talking alot but not saying anything" David Burne /the talking heads

 

[Avatar9]

You are a looser

So the problem here is that you're illiterate...

Judeo-Christianity does not teach that genocide is okay.

So it teaches god is evil for ordering it during the conquest of Canaan?

Of course not, how silly.

So genocide is okay?

It entails the judgment of a depraved society by a righteous God putting an end to said depravity.

Through genocide and the slaughter of children... and that was okay?

 

[catzmeow]

You are a looser.

Lawlz.

 

[catzmeow]

the author's point in the article pertains "to the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of materialism and the irrationality of moral relativism as opposed to moral absolutism."

You directed this author's point about materialism and moral relativism indiscriminately at atheists (see your title), as did he. This makes you a moron and a buffoon.

 

[hippie2049]

"consequentialism" in a nutshell: If you like the consequences it's ethical, if you don't like the consequences it's unethical. Thus, if you enjoy child pornography and having sex with children it's ethical, if you dislike child pornography and having sex with children it's unethical.

Averick willfully ignores the consequences of pedophilia on the object of the pedophiles actions.


Where in any holy text, in any religion do they denounce pedophilia as immoral?