A Perspective on Shootings That Liberals Won't Discuss

[koshergrl]

The liberals who wrote the second amendment would have strung the liberals of today up. Gun control is all about totalitarians wanting to disarm a citezenry they despise and want to control...

 

[World Savior]

The liberals who wrote the second amendment would have strung the liberals of today up. Gun control is all about totalitarians wanting to disarm a citezenry they despise and want to control...

Yes, you might think the Taliban lifestyle is the way American people want to live. Too bad for you, most people in the US do not want to live like the ISIS and Taliban. Thus we oppose gun proliferation and want sensible gun control measures put in place. We don't really enjoy watching 26 little children murdered down by Adma Lanza in Newtown Connecticut. Thus we want to see fewer and fewer guns available to general public in America.

By the way, the government does not need to disarm you to impose their version of totalitarianism on you. Only the NRA fanatics think they can take on the government on military level. I've heard this absurd argument that citizens need weapons to fight the government's fascist forces. Trust me, the government won't flinch one bit even if you had 200 guns in your basement. They know how to take you our no matter how many weapons you purchase.

Seriously, you should try a new fantasy than to have a grand vision of taking on the government forces from your upstairs bedroom window.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

"Gun control" has nothing to do with Liberals.

No, of course not. That's why they're always the ones who are calling for it. It's just a red herring.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Wrong, and ignorantly so. Liberals wrote the Second Amendment.

Attempting to compare the liberals of the 18th century to those who call themselves that today is in of itself quite wrong and ignorant.

 

[IsaacNewton]

"Gun control" has nothing to do with Liberals.

No, of course not. That's why they're always the ones who are calling for it. It's just a red herring.

Aren't you ignoring the most important word in gun control. Control. That doesn't equate to confiscation and 80-90 percent of the public agrees stricter background checks and mental stability screenings should be put in place.

 

[koshergrl]

The liberals who wrote the second amendment would have strung the liberals of today up. Gun control is all about totalitarians wanting to disarm a citezenry they despise and want to control...

Yes, you might think the Taliban lifestyle is the way American people want to live. Too bad for you, most people in the US do not want to live like the ISIS and Taliban. Thus we oppose gun proliferation and want sensible gun control measures put in place. We don't really enjoy watching 26 little children murdered down by Adma Lanza in Newtown Connecticut. Thus we want to see fewer and fewer guns available to general public in America.

By the way, the government does not need to disarm you to impose their version of totalitarianism on you. Only the NRA fanatics think they can take on the government on military level. I've heard this absurd argument that citizens need weapons to fight the government's fascist forces. Trust me, the government won't flinch one bit even if you had 200 guns in your basement. They know how to take you our no matter how many weapons you purchase.

Seriously, you should try a new fantasy than to have a grand vision of taking on the government forces from your upstairs bedroom window.

Yawn.

 

[koshergrl]

"Gun control" has nothing to do with Liberals.

No, of course not. That's why they're always the ones who are calling for it. It's just a red herring.

Aren't you ignoring the most important word in gun control. Control. That doesn't equate to confiscation and 80-90 percent of the public agrees stricter background checks and mental stability screenings should be put in place.

No, they don't.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Hitler did not bring any laws to restrict gun owership...

In the March 1938 German Weapons Act manufacture of arms and ammunition continued to require a permit, with the revision that such permits would no longer be issued to Jews or any company part-owned by Jews. Jews were consequently forbidden from the manufacturing or dealing of firearms and ammunition.

http://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4029&context=flr

Pages 675 & 676

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

If you banned cars, then everyone will die.

So when the first evolved humanoid crawled out of the sludge they hopped into a Ford Focus and drove off, huh?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Any pro-gun rant that assumes all liberals want to totally ban guns is misinformed and should be disregarded.

All liberals? No, but many would find that solution perfectly acceptable. Anyone who denies that reality is misinformed and should be disregarded.

 

[koshergrl]

If you banned cars, then everyone will die.

So when the first evolved humanoid crawled out of the sludge they hopped into a Ford Focus and drove off, huh?

Good grief, does he really believe that???

 

[TemplarKormac]

So you are in favor of public ownership of full auto machine guns, tripod full auto .50 caliber, 20mm chain guns, bazookas, tanks, nukes...

Are you in favor of telling the truth? We are talking about self defense, personal protection, not urban warfare or weapons of mass destruction. What will someone with a pocket nuke do? Nuke the entire neighborhood to fend off a burglar? Don't be a moron.

 

[BluesLegend]

Any pro-gun rant that assumes all liberals want to totally ban guns is misinformed and should be disregarded.

You know damn well the vast majority of lowlife scum anti-gun anti-constitution gun control freaks are libs. Not all, just almost all.

I am all for cons carrying guns on them. In their households, on their kids, wives, in their bedrooms, in their own private situations like birthday parties, weddings, in their own backyard. Keep the guns everywhere you like.

I bet you probably live in fear of your life every second of your life, which is why you carry deadly weapons on you. Fortunately, most normal people nlcuding liberals, do not live their lives in total fear of losing it every 5 seconds.

What do you do when you go out for a walk in the park? Look over your shoulders every 2 seconds to make sure no criminal is ffollowing you? Do you provide deadly weapons to your kids when they go out to play or visit their friends in the next block away from you? Do you hire security detail to protect your wife and girlfriend when she goes shopping at a local mall?

Thank "god" unlike you, we on the left don't exactly love in panic mode 24-7.

You are an idiot of epic proportions. Unlike you clown I have been mugged in a city park in broad daylight by two black thugs and I have experienced a home invasion. Trust me the police are not going to magically appear and save you imbecile.

 

[koshergrl]

So you are in favor of public ownership of full auto machine guns, tripod full auto .50 caliber, 20mm chain guns, bazookas, tanks, nukes...

Are you in favor of telling the truth? We are talking about self defense, personal protection, not urban warfare or weapons of mass destruction. What will someone with a pocket nuke do? Nuke the entire neighborhood to fend off a burglar? Don't be a moron.

They're terrified of people who have the ability to defend themselves. That should keep us up at night.

 

[World Savior]

Any pro-gun rant that assumes all liberals want to totally ban guns is misinformed and should be disregarded.

You know damn well the vast majority of lowlife scum anti-gun anti-constitution gun control freaks are libs. Not all, just almost all.

I am all for cons carrying guns on them. In their households, on their kids, wives, in their bedrooms, in their own private situations like birthday parties, weddings, in their own backyard. Keep the guns everywhere you like.

I bet you probably live in fear of your life every second of your life, which is why you carry deadly weapons on you. Fortunately, most normal people nlcuding liberals, do not live their lives in total fear of losing it every 5 seconds.

What do you do when you go out for a walk in the park? Look over your shoulders every 2 seconds to make sure no criminal is ffollowing you? Do you provide deadly weapons to your kids when they go out to play or visit their friends in the next block away from you? Do you hire security detail to protect your wife and girlfriend when she goes shopping at a local mall?

Thank "god" unlike you, we on the left don't exactly love in panic mode 24-7.

You are an idiot of epic proportions. Unlike you clown I have been mugged in a city park in broad daylight by two black thugs and I have experienced a home invasion. Trust me the police are not going to magically appear and save you imbecile.

Too bad people like you are the ones I fear the most. You might think of yourself as Clint Eastwood, who can settle every confrontation on the street at a barrel of your gun. You being mugged does not mean the remaining 320 million Americans need to live in fear of weapons on morons like yourself.

You might get into a shootout and hurt your wife, your kids who may be around you at the time you were mugged. A mugging is not worth the life of you or your child. If you pull out a gun, chances are you will be shot dead if the other guy sees you pull it out.

It's morons like yourself you never think about return fire. Your focus always remains on pointing weapons at others. You never think about the other guy having a weapon on him who can do as much harm to you as you want to do to him, regardless of who is right.

I imagine a scenario where a thief might want to rob a McDonalds. You are waiting in the line with your wife and kids. You decide to pull out the gun. The thief's partner is behind you. He unloads a barrage of bullets into you. And your kid sees you leaking blood from your brain, assuming she was not hit in the head herself.

Yes, enjoy your Clint Eastwood and Arnold Schwarzenegger fantasies. In real life, I bet, people like you will be the first ones the paramedics remove from the restaurant lobby, if not your other family members. Instead os staying quiet and letting the thieves take away cash, you will end up losing $5 million cash for your brain surgery and lifelong therapy and medication, assuming you survive the gun battle.

 

[auditor0007]

Fact is that only .00007% of gun owners are even likely to consider going on a shooting spree. When they do, they will choose a gun-free zone nearly every time. Even though the liklihood of being shot by a mass murderer is less than the chance of getting hit by lightning or way less than the chances of being killed in a car accident, the liberals are in a constant state of alarm just because people are allowed to own guns. Most murders are committed with knives. And more people die due to medical malpractice than any other, but liberals focus on the one thing that tyrants hate- armed citizens. Sorry, but if it was about safety, they would be up in arms about other things and not the right of citizens to own guns. Tyrants only fear people who are able to fight back against tyranny. And it's no coincidence that the left focuses on the 2nd amendment over other things that are far more likely to harm or kill people. They claim it's a safety issue, but I call bullshit considering the things they ignore.

If the left had gotten their way with gun control, those mass shootings would still have occurred. It would just mean a few more laws broken. I know many on the left actually would ban guns if they could. Some are honest about that, though I believe that is the endgame with most. Crazies and criminals never have trouble getting their hands on weapons. The theater shooter could have just as easily pipe bombed the theater or set it on fire and hurt even more people. If a mass murderer was going around tossing bombs, would the media get as upset as they do with guns? You'd think that people doing something illegal would be the biggest complaint and not the means they happen to choose. Murdering, in any fashion, should be the focus, but liberals only focus on shootings, particularly by white males. We don't see the same coverage when it's a Muslim shooting people at a base or a gang member with lots of kills under their belt.

The law abiding citizens, especially NRA members, are constantly told they are responsible whenever a mass shooting happens.

Funny that the auto companies don't get blamed for all the accidents and drunk drivers.

Cell phone companies don't get blamed for all the accidents caused by a driver texting. Hell, in that case, the government made sure they handed out more phones. Are they trying to kill people? I hope they know they will be responsible when a driver with an Obamaphone is texting and crosses the center line and kills someone.

Stores don't get called names for selling knives, rope, lighter fluid and other things often used in murders.

Only the NRA gets blamed for shootings, as if they have anything to do with the criminals and insane people who misuse their weapons. Luckily, it has been very few. Despite it being a rare occurrence, the left and the media act as if it's an epidemic. They ignore the real epidemics, which is gangs, and human or drug trafficking. How many people have died of drug overdoses and how many young girls have disappeared because of human trafficking? The left's answer is to legalize drugs. They likely want prostitution legalized. Not much is being done about the human traffickers because they are 10 steps ahead of law enforcement. Those problems occur every day and yet the media isn't sounding the alarms on that. They are too busy bashing the average gun owner because they disapprove of one of our rights.



"It is a sad truth that there are likely more mentally ill individuals in our nation who will one day get their hands on guns, legally or illegally, and take the lives of some innocent souls.

But some perspective is needed.

Let’s take that figure for the number of people killed in the last 30 years during a mass shooting of 560 and add another nine to it. That makes 569.

Now compare that number to 10,076. According to MADD, that’s the number of people killed during drunk driving crashes in 2013 alone. In fact, every day in America, another 28 people die in drunk driving crashes. Every. Single. Day.

Using the liberal logic of banning guns because of tragic (and thankfully, comparatively rare) mass shootings undertaken by crazy white folks (and some not so white), should we not then ban cars?

Cars clearly cause many more fatalities in terms of numbers each day than whack nuts with a gun.

Heck, we should ban bathtubs too. Because 341 people die from drowning and submersion while in or falling into bathtubs. And floors. We need to ban floors too, because 565 people die each year from slipping, tripping or falling.

I don’t mean to be flippant, or to trivialize this terrible tragedy. But as the stories fly around in the next few days regarding this event, you can be darn tootin’ liberals will begin pushing their agendas."

http://allenbwest.com/2015/06/heres-what-the-mainstream-media-wont-tell-you-about-mass-shootings/

The majority of mass gun shootings happen at schools or people's place of employment, or former employment. The reason people go to these places to shoot and kill people is because they are pissed off at someone. They don't choose those places because they are gun free zones. They choose them because their targets are at those places.

 

[World Savior]

Fact is that only .00007% of gun owners are even likely to consider going on a shooting spree. When they do, they will choose a gun-free zone nearly every time. Even though the liklihood of being shot by a mass murderer is less than the chance of getting hit by lightning or way less than the chances of being killed in a car accident, the liberals are in a constant state of alarm just because people are allowed to own guns. Most murders are committed with knives. And more people die due to medical malpractice than any other, but liberals focus on the one thing that tyrants hate- armed citizens. Sorry, but if it was about safety, they would be up in arms about other things and not the right of citizens to own guns. Tyrants only fear people who are able to fight back against tyranny. And it's no coincidence that the left focuses on the 2nd amendment over other things that are far more likely to harm or kill people. They claim it's a safety issue, but I call bullshit considering the things they ignore.

If the left had gotten their way with gun control, those mass shootings would still have occurred. It would just mean a few more laws broken. I know many on the left actually would ban guns if they could. Some are honest about that, though I believe that is the endgame with most. Crazies and criminals never have trouble getting their hands on weapons. The theater shooter could have just as easily pipe bombed the theater or set it on fire and hurt even more people. If a mass murderer was going around tossing bombs, would the media get as upset as they do with guns? You'd think that people doing something illegal would be the biggest complaint and not the means they happen to choose. Murdering, in any fashion, should be the focus, but liberals only focus on shootings, particularly by white males. We don't see the same coverage when it's a Muslim shooting people at a base or a gang member with lots of kills under their belt.

The law abiding citizens, especially NRA members, are constantly told they are responsible whenever a mass shooting happens.

Funny that the auto companies don't get blamed for all the accidents and drunk drivers.

Cell phone companies don't get blamed for all the accidents caused by a driver texting. Hell, in that case, the government made sure they handed out more phones. Are they trying to kill people? I hope they know they will be responsible when a driver with an Obamaphone is texting and crosses the center line and kills someone.

Stores don't get called names for selling knives, rope, lighter fluid and other things often used in murders.

Only the NRA gets blamed for shootings, as if they have anything to do with the criminals and insane people who misuse their weapons. Luckily, it has been very few. Despite it being a rare occurrence, the left and the media act as if it's an epidemic. They ignore the real epidemics, which is gangs, and human or drug trafficking. How many people have died of drug overdoses and how many young girls have disappeared because of human trafficking? The left's answer is to legalize drugs. They likely want prostitution legalized. Not much is being done about the human traffickers because they are 10 steps ahead of law enforcement. Those problems occur every day and yet the media isn't sounding the alarms on that. They are too busy bashing the average gun owner because they disapprove of one of our rights.



"It is a sad truth that there are likely more mentally ill individuals in our nation who will one day get their hands on guns, legally or illegally, and take the lives of some innocent souls.

But some perspective is needed.

Let’s take that figure for the number of people killed in the last 30 years during a mass shooting of 560 and add another nine to it. That makes 569.

Now compare that number to 10,076. According to MADD, that’s the number of people killed during drunk driving crashes in 2013 alone. In fact, every day in America, another 28 people die in drunk driving crashes. Every. Single. Day.

Using the liberal logic of banning guns because of tragic (and thankfully, comparatively rare) mass shootings undertaken by crazy white folks (and some not so white), should we not then ban cars?

Cars clearly cause many more fatalities in terms of numbers each day than whack nuts with a gun.

Heck, we should ban bathtubs too. Because 341 people die from drowning and submersion while in or falling into bathtubs. And floors. We need to ban floors too, because 565 people die each year from slipping, tripping or falling.

I don’t mean to be flippant, or to trivialize this terrible tragedy. But as the stories fly around in the next few days regarding this event, you can be darn tootin’ liberals will begin pushing their agendas."

http://allenbwest.com/2015/06/heres-what-the-mainstream-media-wont-tell-you-about-mass-shootings/

The majority of mass gun shootings happen at schools or people's place of employment, or former employment. The reason people go to these places to shoot and kill people is because they are pissed off at someone. They don't choose those places because they are gun free zones. They choose them because their targets are at those places.

Schools are an easy target to kill people. In fact, any place is an easy target to kill. Shopping malls, restaurants, cafes, post office....the list is endless. Most killings are done by people who know each other. In rare circumstances you do get shooters like Dylan Roof in Charleston or some other idiot. But this is an exception, not the norm.

Cons don't understand the deadly nature of a weapon they so love. I mean seriously, anyone who wants to keep weapons on them, in their bedrooms, cars, basements or any place else, should understand how deadly a weapon can be in the hands of untrained person.

It's tragic when I hear of little kids playing with guns who end up shooting their siblings or themselves in the head, in the face or wherever. Only RW gun nut cons think this is funny somehow.

 

[OKTexas]

You liberals all missed the point, as usual. You want more laws that will do nothing. Mass shootings are very rare with less than 600 people killed over a 30 year period.

West did not write the article. It was from another source that he linked to and I don't give a shit what you think of any source. If it makes sense, I'll go with it.

Grow up. I should have known I'd get a clown pic from the clown poster who can't put an intelligent sentence together or actually engage in a discussion.

If laws don't do anything, why do we have any.

For the same reason you have a lock on your door, it keeps honest people honest, criminals just don't care.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Too bad people like you are the ones I fear the most.

What? Planning a burglary?

 

[OKTexas]

"Gun control" has nothing to do with Liberals. See if you can aim juuuuust slightly higher than Allen Fucking West for a clue.

Sheeeesh.

The article was not written by West, not that it matters. He's still better than half the lunatics in the liberal media. Why don't you learn how to read. Sheeeesh.

I think liberals are all about gun control, or maybe banning guns is more accurate. It's always the liberals crying about the 2nd amendment.

Wrong, and ignorantly so. Liberals wrote the Second Amendment.

But not commie progressives, you have co opted the liberal label, 18th century liberals had a brain, and then there's you folks.