A peak inside the progressive mindset

[P@triot]

erm public holidays ARE an excuse not to work and that's a good thing. I agree with your premise but not your argument.

Uh...no they are not chief. Public holidays exist for the specific purpose of recognizing something or someone and celebrating it.

 

[The Great Goose]

erm public holidays ARE an excuse not to work and that's a good thing. I agree with your premise but not your argument.

Uh...no they are not chief. Public holidays exist for the specific purpose of recognizing something or someone and celebrating it.

That's just the excuse.

 

[P@triot]

erm public holidays ARE an excuse not to work and that's a good thing. I agree with your premise but not your argument.

Uh...no they are not chief. Public holidays exist for the specific purpose of recognizing something or someone and celebrating it.

That's just the excuse.

No...that's the reality of the original intent. Sadly, it has morphed into an excuse not to go to work by a bunch of self-centered, lazy progressives.

 

[The Great Goose]

erm public holidays ARE an excuse not to work and that's a good thing. I agree with your premise but not your argument.

Uh...no they are not chief. Public holidays exist for the specific purpose of recognizing something or someone and celebrating it.

That's just the excuse.

No...that's the reality of the original intent. Sadly, it has morphed into an excuse not to go to work by a bunch of self-centered, lazy progressives.

But people always used public holidays for that. Am I going to sit in quiet contemplation of the Queen on the Queens birthday?

Hell no! I'm going to hit the bay on a jetski and run down someones poodle.

 

[owebo]

Yes He does.

sorry, man, Jesus is a myth. It's why even the Gospels can't agree on what year he was born in (Matthew says before 4 BCE, while Luke puts it at 6 CE)

Evidence for your numbers? The total population of the Americas before Columbus arrived was anywhere from 10 million to 50 million individuals. Your assertion makes as much sense as those insisting that sharks still follow the paths the slave ships took because so many were thrown overboard.

Population history of indigenous peoples of the Americas - Wikipedia

Using an estimate of approximately 37 million people in Mexico, Central and South America in 1492 (including 6 million in the Aztec Empire, 5-10 million in the Mayan States, 11 million in what is now Brazil, and 12 million in the Inca Empire), the lowest estimates give a death toll due from disease of 90% by the end of the 17th century (nine million people in 1650).[5] Latin America would match its 15th-century population early in the 19th century; it numbered 17 million in 1800, 30 million in 1850, 61 million in 1900, 105 million in 1930, 218 million in 1960, 361 million in 1980, and 563 million in 2005.[5] In the last three decades of the 16th century, the population of present-day Mexico dropped to about one million people.[5] The Maya population is today estimated at six million, which is about the same as at the end of the 15th century, according to some estimates.[5] In what is now Brazil, the indigenous population declined from a pre-Columbian high of an estimated four million to some 300,000.

While it is difficult to determine exactly how many Natives lived in North America before Columbus,[6] estimates range from a low of 2.1 million[7]to 7 million[8] people to a high of 18 million[9]

BCE....CE


That's a neon sign for fucktard liberal LWNJ......

 

[SYTFE]

 

[P@triot]

erm public holidays ARE an excuse not to work and that's a good thing. I agree with your premise but not your argument.

Uh...no they are not chief. Public holidays exist for the specific purpose of recognizing something or someone and celebrating it.

That's just the excuse.

No...that's the reality of the original intent. Sadly, it has morphed into an excuse not to go to work by a bunch of self-centered, lazy progressives.

But people always used public holidays for that. Am I going to sit in quiet contemplation of the Queen on the Queens birthday?

Hell no! I'm going to hit the bay on a jetski and run down someones poodle.

It's not binary. You don't have to sit quietly to celebrate something or someone. In fact, that's the opposite of celebrating. You can do both. You can build family and fun time around the reason for the holiday.

 

[P@triot]

Anyone else here notice the direct correlation between the most miserable posters on USMB and their disdain for God?

 

[owebo]

Anyone else here notice the direct correlation between the most miserable posters on USMB and their disdain for God?

They are mindless liberal twats, and that's what they are told to do.....

 

[P@triot]

When you watch stuff like this you realize just how weak-minded progressives really are and thus how easy they are to dupe. It's why the Dumbocrats laugh all the way to the bank at their legions of minions.

Around the 42:00 mark the film maker tries to make the case that (and I quote): Doubt=Death. What an astounding misrepresentation of what was actually said. There is a huge difference between "doubt" and "denial". Denial is what people like Joey and SYTFE do. Doubt is what most people do as they grow up and try to wrap their minds around the physical world that they know and God with their limited mental capacity.

 

[SYTFE]

When you watch stuff like this you realize just how weak-minded progressives really are and thus how easy they are to dupe. It's why the Dumbocrats laugh all the way to the bank at their legions of minions.

Around the 42:00 mark the film maker tries to make the case that (and I quote): Doubt=Death. What an astounding misrepresentation of what was actually said. There is a huge difference between "doubt" and "denial". Denial is what people like Joey and SYTFE do. Doubt is what most people do as they grow up and try to wrap their minds around the physical world that they know and God with their limited mental capacity.

Why don't you watch the entire movie, then come back with your arguments that you're plagiarizing from your "debunking" sources?

BTW, I am agnostic, not an atheist, for the record. I just don't believe in false, man-made Gods.

 

[hjmick]

Columbus discovered America...


That's funny.

 

[hadit]

Columbus Day is supposed to recognize that Columbus discovered America. Uh, there were already people here. People who died by the hundreds of millions after the Europeans came over. That's nothing to celebrate.

Evidence for your numbers? The total population of the Americas before Columbus arrived was anywhere from 10 million to 50 million individuals. Your assertion makes as much sense as those insisting that sharks still follow the paths the slave ships took because so many were thrown overboard.

Oh, and it's well established that Europeans landed on the Americas long before Columbus got here.

Wait. Wait. Wait. You want evidence? From little Joseph there? You must be new here, uh?

First, Joey is always completely devoid of evidence. When he gets caught lying, he'll do what he did in this thread and suddenly change the narrative from America to North America (as if Christopher Columbus had anything to do with Mexico ).

Second, he's really desperate for attention. He doesn't get any in the physical world so he looks for it in the virtual world.

It's fun to watch.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah....we know. You believe in a lot of myths. Like communism works, global warming is "real", and Jesus never existed. Typical uneducated progressive.

Global Warming can be scientifically proven and has.
Jesus... No real evidence of his existence at all, Poodle. I mean besides the fantastical parts of the story like walking on water and people coming back from the dead, we have no contemporary sources recording there was a Jesus.

Yeah nitwit. Exactly. The east (much like you and your fellow progressives today) believed that the world was flat. Christopher Columbus did "discover" America since no one outside of the Native Americans knew it existed. Additionally he should be recognized for having the courage to take the voyage nobody else dared to take.

Guy, people didn't believe the world was flat when Columbus was around. In fact, the fact the world was Round was known to ancient Greeks and Romans. In fact, the Greeks even accurately calculated the size of the Earth.

Who Discovered The Earth is Round?

The real problem with Columbus' voyage is that most people concluded since the Earth was the size it was, he couldn't get to China and India without running out of supplies before he got there.

But you keep going with that home-schooling, Cleetus

Then you and your fellow nitwit progressives have no need for a "fall holiday" and can get your lazy asses in to work.

I wouldn't know, I work in the private sector, we don't get Indigenous People's Day off.

But I'm totally good with calling it that, just to piss off whiny white people like you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I thought the thread title yesterday and thought the thread was about progressivism reaching some sort of peak.

Are there NO literate RWnuts?

 

[JoeB131]

Bwahahaha! I literally never get tired of this guy embarrassing himself. There has been volumes of evidence. From the Shroud of Turin to the famous "bone box" (which incidentally was found to be an accurate geochemical match), to people who have seen Jesus and interacted with him through near death experiences, to the Bible and everything in between, the evidence is pretty overwhelming.

Okay, let's look at those.

We can start with the Shroud of Turin.

Investigative Briefs: Turin “Shroud” Still a Fake - Center for Inquiry

In 2005, Turin Shroud proponent Ray Rogers claimed that earlier carbon-14 tests of the shroud linen—showing it to date from between 1260 and 1390 and to thus be a fake—were invalid because, he hypothesized, the samples must have been taken from a “medieval patch.” Rogers and I had an exchange of arguments in the Skeptical Inquirer. But a new paper by three Italian chemists, in the same journal in which Rogers published, shows who was right.

The carbon-dating was conducted “blind”—along with control samples from ancient cloths of known date—by three labs, at Oxford, Zurich, and the University of Arizona. The dates were in close agreement. The time span, 1260–1390, is consistent with the shroud’s lack of history before about 1357 when, according to a later bishop’s report, an artist confessed to having “cunningly painted” it with the front and back images of an apparently crucified man. The world-famous microanalyst, Walter McCrone, detected red ocher pigment composing the “body” area and red ocher and vermilion tempera paint making up the “blood.” (See my Inquest on the Shroud of Turin, 1998 and The Science of Miracles, 2013.)

Okay, so much for the Shroud of Turin.

Let's move on to the James Ossuary - Now, we can point out that there were probably lots of guys named James who had a brother named Jesus. (Even tho the Bible never said Jesus had a brother named James, and some Christians claim he never had any brothers because mom was a virgin...no, really)

However, Science again is not your friend, Poodle.

James Ossuary - Wikipedia

On June 18, 2003 the Israeli Antiquities Authority (IAA) published a report concluding that the inscription is a modern forgery based on their analysis of the patina. Specifically, it claimed that the inscription was added in modern times and made to look old by addition of a chalk solution.

Okay... so let's move on to your other contention.

to people who have seen Jesus and interacted with him through near death experiences

The problem with this contention is that the only people who see Jesus during an NDE are Christians. Muslims who have NDE's encounter Allah.

Near-Death Experiences and Islam

Buddhists who have Near Death experiences encounter Buddha

Tibetan Buddhist Lingza Chokyi's Near-Death Experience

Hindus who have NDE's encounter Krishna

Life after Death: Near-Death Experiences of Hindus

Now, if Jesus was the one and true God, wouldn't all those other folks have encountered Jesus, too?

Use a little logic here, Poodle. Most scientists realize NDE's are a chemical imbalance in the brain due to oxygen starvation, not cosmic experiences.

The science behind near-death experiences: Why the brain makes us think we're dying

to the Bible and everything in between, the evidence is pretty overwhelming.

except the Bible really isn't a reliable source. Let's forget all the fantastic stories or the scientific fallacies (Like Satan taking Jesus to a mountaintop where he could see the whole world, which is again- impossible.)

Let's look at the contradictions within the bible itself.

Luke says Jesus was born in the governorship of Quirinis (AD 6). Matthew says he was born in the time of Herod the Great (died 4 BC). Both Gospels give contradictory genealogies of Jesus, tracing his lineage back to David through Joseph (who again, wasn't his father.)

So your Overwhelming evidence includes.

Two proven frauds
Fantasies had by people due to oxygen starvation
A book of myths that contradicts itself.

Evidence should be made of sterner stuff.

 

[JoeB131]

I have news for you.

Jesus existed then, exists now and will exist for an Eternity.

NOpe. Jesus never existed. sorry to break this to you.

 

[Moonglow]

When one really listens to what is being said here, it is stupefying. Let's start with the idiotic mayor who calls it (and I quote) "well-merited time off". What?!? Columbus Day was designed to recognize Christopher Columbus. Good Friday was designed to reflect on the sacrifices made by Jesus Christ.

Jesus never existed.

Columbus Day is supposed to recognize that Columbus discovered America. Uh, there were already people here. People who died by the hundreds of millions after the Europeans came over. That's nothing to celebrate.

he didn't? who is the guy on the cross then? or don't crosses exist?

An idol, you know, like American Idol, made to make Father time mad..

 

[NightFox]

Jesus existed then, exists now and will exist for an Eternity.

Cool, you think one of you nice Christian folks could ask him if he might be willing to do that water into wine trick over at my place, I need to restock the wine rack for the holidays.

Thanks in advance.

"I don't care what they may say
I don't care what they may do
I don't care what they may say
Jesus is just alright, oh yeah
Jesus is just alright" -- The Doobie Brothers, Jesus is Just Alright

 

[P@triot]

A peak inside the mindset of the progressive elite - who laugh like hell at the idiocy of the progressive minions who believe their propaganda...

As they prepare for their exodus from the White House, the Obamas are about to join another rarified club – that of the ruling liberal elite class owning multiple ultra-expensive homes in highly exclusive communities that none in America can afford save the one-percenters. The very same one-percenters whom they rant and rail against as being the greedy, ego-centric millionaires who simply have too much.

Following the likes of Bill and Hillary Clinton who (despite Hillary’s claim earlier this year that they left White House “dead broke”) somehow managed to educate their daughter at Stanford, Oxford, NYU and Columbia; acquire a $1.7 million estate in Chappaqua and a $2.85 million mansion in Georgetown

Bernie Sanders who shortly after ending his 2016 presidential bid bought his third home –a $600,000 lakefront vacation house

Earlier this year it was revealed that upon his leaving the presidency the Obamas will not be returning to Chicago they will instead be moving into a $6 million, 8,200-square foot, 9-bedroom 12-bathroom mansion in Kalorama, one of the District’s most posh, desirable and exclusive neighborhoods in the heart of one of America’s wealthiest zip codes

With daughter Malia off to college that leaves just Barack, Michelle and Sasha until the younger daughter graduates high school in 2018. Nothing says “I care about climate change, energy consumption and our CO2 footprint” more than keeping an 8,200-square foot house heated and air conditioned year round …for just three people. The hypocrisy and “do as I say not as I do” hubris of all these wealthy climate change proponents is sickening. By the way, the Obama’s new home is just two doors down from Clinton campaign manager, John Podesta, who recently lost the most significant campaign of his life.

Something STRANGE happens when Democrats leave office