A new Fiction about Bush

[sealybobo]

I think Bush is better than McCain as well.

Since most Americans now agree that you Bush lovers are mental retards, this might work in your favor. Because if YOU don't like McCain, then he can't be all that bad.

 

[sealybobo]

do you have something against the daily show?

Yes he does. It is too honest.

 

[jillian]

Here we go, read this and tell me where a single claim has been substantiated? This guy writes fiction and sells it as fact and you Bush haters buy it up and believe it.

Meanwhile you still claim Clinton did not commit Perjury. What a fucking joke.

Book says White House ordered forgery - Yahoo! News

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... because Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists always feel the need to trash their own reputations by making up stuff....

lol.. but no prejudgment on your part, right?

 

[Reality]

Well since all your liberal buddies on this board scream loud and hard we all are idiots and stupid, I guess you believe that of all liberals to, RIGHT?

Hi pot, this is kettle. I think you will have a long, prosperous relationship.

 

[sealybobo]

Hi pot, this is kettle. I think you will have a long, prosperous relationship.

 

[Reality]

Yup, that election was the Dems, all they had to do was find a warm body that wouldn't screw it up. And as usual the choose a loser. Kerry was one of the worst possible people they could run. People were tired of Bush. But given the option of 4 more years of Bush or Kerry? Well we all know what happened now don't we.

Yes we do. The American people endorsed the war in Iraq by 1.5 pts of 1/2 the country. Kerry was a bad candidate for a very simple reason: Swift Boat Veterans Addicted to American Kids Dying in Pointless Wars. Hopefully the DNC will do the same thing in a few months so we can see the right's amnesia as they scream about the it being unacceptable. Of course the left wing media conspiracy will burry it for the republican candidate.

 

[Reality]

Ya cuase we all know Saddam didn't have any, right?

Just the 500 metric tons or so that was recently shipped out to other locations.

Iraq survey group says it didn't happen but you keep saying it so you don't feel as guilty about the American soldiers you supported sending off to die in the war of national liberation not in the national interest of THIS country.

 

[Reality]

American Thinker: The 550 Tons of Yellowcake

That's just the top one on Google you can fine Many more yourself.

Yea!!! I mean we could rely on Randall Hoven, whoever the fuck he is, or Kay and Duelfer.

 

[Reality]

this is just such typical stuff
I can't understand how so many have been led to believe all this stuff about Bush
I feel like I'm living in a different country than these leftys

Where you live is on the same planet that Machiavelli did.

 

[Reality]

Guess that explains where you get your news from ....

Sealy is probably lost for the majority of the Daily Show. You actually have to have a clue what is going on to get most of the humor.

 

[jillian]

American Thinker: The 550 Tons of Yellowcake

That's just the top one on Google you can fine Many more yourself.

That's already been shown to be a bunch of manure.... that was the same stuff that was already documented and stored BEFORE we invaded.

You really need to work on that blind trust .....

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... because Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists always feel the need to trash their own reputations by making up stuff....

lol.. but no prejudgment on your part, right?

Not one shred of evidence or it would be CITED. But do go ahead and believe those Liberal talking points.Last I checked Journalists are in fact well known for lying and misrepresenting facts and figures. But hey you live in your delusional world.

Tell ya what dear, BUY the book and quote me the PROOF part of any of his claims.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yes we do. The American people endorsed the war in Iraq by 1.5 pts of 1/2 the country. Kerry was a bad candidate for a very simple reason: Swift Boat Veterans Addicted to American Kids Dying in Pointless Wars. Hopefully the DNC will do the same thing in a few months so we can see the right's amnesia as they scream about the it being unacceptable. Of course the left wing media conspiracy will burry it for the republican candidate.

LOL, you are aware that NO network EVER published or cited ANYTHING the swiftboat people had to say? Even refusing to run ads they would pay for? The only mention they ever got was negative on the news with all the nay saying about them with out once providing what they had to say on air.

But if it helps you sleep at night thinking your ignorant party doesn't keep picking losers you go right ahead and live that fantasy.

 

[Care4all]

LOL, you are aware that NO network EVER published or cited ANYTHING the swiftboat people had to say? Even refusing to run ads they would pay for? The only mention they ever got was negative on the news with all the nay saying about them with out once providing what they had to say on air.

But if it helps you sleep at night thinking your ignorant party doesn't keep picking losers you go right ahead and live that fantasy.

I am not certain what planet you were living on at the time , but the swift boat vet ads were shown over and over again on ALL of the 24/7 news media channels(for free)....and for weeks the swift vets got media coverage....?

Care

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I am not certain what planet you were living on at the time , but the swift boat vet ads were shown over and over again on ALL of the 24/7 news media channels(for free)....and for weeks the swift vets got media coverage....?

Care

Wrong, go find us an example of a NEWS cast ACTUALLY telling us what the vets said or believed. They got coverage all right, BUT only when the News said they were liars, frauds and cheats. Never anything about their claims at all.

Shouldn't be hard to find all this evidence of news casts since you claim it was all over the air 24 hours a day.

 

[sealybobo]

Wrong, go find us an example of a NEWS cast ACTUALLY telling us what the vets said or believed. They got coverage all right, BUT only when the News said they were liars, frauds and cheats. Never anything about their claims at all.

Shouldn't be hard to find all this evidence of news casts since you claim it was all over the air 24 hours a day.

You go find an example of a news cast that called out the swift boat liars.

WRONG!

And they were liars. Each of them has links to the GOP, so they had alterior motives.

Just like scientists that deny humans are causing global warming. The scientists with no agenda all say humans are causing it. The handful that deny are all partisan hacks. Or are the thousands that say we are causing global warming all partisan?

 

[Care4all]

Wrong, go find us an example of a NEWS cast ACTUALLY telling us what the vets said or believed. They got coverage all right, BUT only when the News said they were liars, frauds and cheats. Never anything about their claims at all.

Shouldn't be hard to find all this evidence of news casts since you claim it was all over the air 24 hours a day.

oh for goodness sakes ret sgt....you were on another planet, OBVIOUSLY! lol

Eric Boehlert's "Lapdogs" On The Swift Boat Hoax: "The Press, Spooked About Being Tagged As Too Liberal, Played Dumb On An Unprecedented Scale"...
Huffington Post | May 3, 2006 11:28 PM

In his new book, "Lapdogs: How the Press Rolled Over For Bush," Eric Boehlert dissects the Beltway media's culpability during the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth smear campaign from the 2004 campaign and concludes the episode "likely delivered Bush the cushion he needed to win in November" and "represented an embarrassing new benchmark for campaign season reporting." "Lapdogs" holds the press accountable for the central role it played in enabling a smear campaign that consumed the crucial campaign month of August 2004 -- "a media monsoon that washed away Kerry's momentum coming out of the Democratic convention."

How, for instance, the Washington Post published 13 page-one Swift Boat stories in 12 days, most of which failed to address the key fact that the Swift boat allegations -- that Kerry lied about his Vietnam War record -- were riddled with errors and compounded by the veterans' fanciful, ever-changing stories. Despite the lack of evidence to substantiate their claims, which were floated 35 years after the fact and bankrolled by partisan Republicans, the press refused, in real time, to call out the Swift Boat allegations as a dirty trick.

"Lapdogs," in bookstores next week, charges that the press, spooked by allegations of liberal bias, has been "afraid of the facts and the consequences of reporting them" during the Bush years.


From Boehlert's "Lapdogs: How the Press Rolled Over For Bush":

For several crucial weeks during the campaign, journalists turned away from the pile-up of Swift Boat falsehoods and contradictions, rarely daring to call the Swift Boat attack out for what it really was--a farce. An elaborate, well-choreographed, well-funded farce that not only dragged down the Kerry campaign, but played the press for fools. At every turn, military records proved the Swift Boat veterans to be untruthful. But Beltway reporters and pundits for the most part remained hesitant, too timid to speak up, as they propped up the veterans as serious men. Their conduct during the manufactured Swift Boat scandal, which likely delivered Bush the cushion he needed to win in November, represented an embarrassing new benchmark for campaign season reporting. Rather than uncovering the obvious gaps in the veterans' wobbly allegations and holding the accusers accountable, the press, spooked about being tagged as too liberal, played dumb on an unprecedented scale, much to the White House's delight.

By the time the Swift Boat story had played out, CNN, chasing after ratings leader Fox News, found time to mention the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth--hereafter, Swifties--in nearly 300 separate news segments, while more than one hundred New York Times articles and columns made mention of the Swifties. And during one overheated 12-day span in late August, the Washington Post mentioned the Swifties in page-one stories on Aug. 19, 20, 21 (two separate articles), 22, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, and 31. It was a media monsoon that washed away Kerry's momentum coming out of the Democratic convention.

Embraced by the Republican's far right media noise machine, led by Fox News, the Drudge Report, Rush Limbaugh, and the New York Post, the mainstream media refused to stand up to those forces. Instead, the press played along, letting the right wing set the media agenda, and pretending the media's primary duty was to accurately record the Swifty allegations, call the Kerry camp for comment, and then proclaim the story too tangled to figure out. USA Today, for instance, threw up its hands, declaring, "A clear picture of what John Kerry did or did not do in Vietnam 35 years ago may never emerge, given the fog of war, the passage of time and the intense partisan sentiments of the players." A headline on Aug. 27 for Hotline, the daily D.C. media tip sheet announced, " VIETNAM: JUST LIKE THE WAR ITSELF, THIS STORY'S NOW A QUAGMIRE."

In Time, the magazine offered up a one-page scorecard, "Kerry in Combat: Setting the Record Straight." In each account of Kerry's medals, the magazine accurately reported how the Swift Boat charges failed to hold up under any sort of factual scrutiny. Yet Time dutifully restrained itself from coming to the obvious conclusion: The Swift Boat charges were a campaign hoax. After pouring over the facts, ABC News concluded, "35 years later, we may never know the exact truth."

But was the story really that hard for journalists to decipher? As Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting suggested in 2004, what if the situation had been reversed and the shoddy Vietnam-ear attacks targeted Bush's war service? What if all the available documents showed that George Bush had fully completed his obligation in the Air National Guard with flying colors? What if virtually every member of his unit said he had been there the whole time, and had done a great job? And then suppose a group of fiercely partisan Democrats who never actually served in Bush's Guard unit came forward to claim for the first time--and 35 years after the fact--that Guard documents and the first-hand accounts were wrong, and that Bush really hadn't been present for his Guard service. Would the MSM really have had a hard time figuring out who was telling the truth, and would the MSM really have showered the accusers with weeks worth of free media coverage?

But playing dumb about the Swifties had become epidemic among journalists who must have known better. At one point, NBC's Tim Russert asked a guest, "If the substance of many of the charges [from] "Unfit for Command," aren't holding up...why is it resonating so much?" Like so many other journalists, Russert refused to acknowledge the media's integral role in turning the Swifty story into a news phenomenon. Why was it "resonating so much" Russert wondered out loud. Maybe because in the month of August, 2004, NBC network news alone covered the Swift Boat story on Aug. 8, 15, 19, 20, 22, 23, 25, 26, and 29. CBS covered the story Aug. 8, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, and 30, while ABC devoted airtime to it on Aug. 6, 8, 9, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25, and 26. Some of the networks, using different morning and evening news programs, returned to the topic several times in one day. For instance on Aug 23, CBS reported on the Swifty controversy four different times, which, of course, represented four more times than the CBS News division reported on questions surrounding Bush's Guard service during the entire 2000 campaign.

story continues here with even MORE EXAMPLES of additional news medias covering the story....welllllll NOT COVERING IT as far as showing the TRUTH, because they were pussies....but they gave more than ample coverage on the swift vets....not on the actual truth.

Eric Boehlert's "Lapdogs" On The Swift Boat Hoax: "The Press, Spooked About Being Tagged As Too Liberal, Played Dumb On An Unprecedented Scale"...


gees louise ret sgt!!!!! you were HAD....

 

[RetiredGySgt]

oh for goodness sakes ret sgt....you were on another planet, OBVIOUSLY! lol


story continues here with even MORE EXAMPLES of additional news medias covering the story....welllllll NOT COVERING IT as far as showing the TRUTH, because they were pussies....but they gave more than ample coverage on the swift vets....not on the actual truth.

Eric Boehlert's "Lapdogs" On The Swift Boat Hoax: "The Press, Spooked About Being Tagged As Too Liberal, Played Dumb On An Unprecedented Scale"...


gees louise ret sgt!!!!!

And again , Mentioning them with no time for their claims is what happened. When one does a program and attacks a group and refuses to actually discuss their claims on air, that is not coverage at all. Once again you have all these nice dates, NOW go find a tape and provide it so I can be proven wrong.

 

[Care4all]

And again , Mentioning them with no time for their claims is what happened. When one does a program and attacks a group and refuses to actually discuss their claims on air, that is not coverage at all. Once again you have all these nice dates, NOW go find a tape and provide it so I can be proven wrong.

you can easily do that yourself, the premise of this article IS THAT they covered the swift boat vets without ever covering the actual false claims....

cnn had 300 segments on it without ever covering the truth or both sides of the story....

the washington post-double digit in articles

the times

ABC, CBS, NBC....ALL MAJOR NETWORKS

MSNBC....double digit articles

not to mention FOX covering it day and nights....

YOU SAID the swift vets did not get played in our media, and ret sgt, you were wrong.....on 2 counts in my opinion....1) it was SATURATED in the media, and 2) you believed the lies imo, because there was no coverage of the truth, the real truth regarding the swift boat vets actual lies.

Care

 

[sealybobo]

you can easily do that yourself, the premise of this article IS THAT they covered the swift boat vets without ever covering the actual false claims....

cnn had 300 segments on it without ever covering the truth or both sides of the story....

the washington post-double digit in articles

the times

ABC, CBS, NBC....ALL MAJOR NETWORKS

MSNBC....double digit articles

not to mention FOX covering it day and nights....

YOU SAID the swift vets did not get played in our media, and ret sgt, you were wrong.....on 2 counts in my opinion....1) it was SATURATED in the media, and 2) you believed the lies imo, because there was no coverage of the truth, the real truth regarding the swift boat vets actual lies.

Care

How much attention did they give this story:

"On August 6 [2001], President George Bush received this highly classified memo, 'Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US.' In it, this paragraph: 'FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.' "
Bush's response after being briefed on the memo, "All right. You've covered your ass, now."
CIA analysts flew to Crawford to personally brief the President -- to intrude on his vacation with face-to-face alerts.
The analytical arm of CIA was in a kind of panic mode at this point. Other intelligence services, including those from the Arab world, were sounding an alarm. The arrows were all in the red. They didn't know the place or time of an attack, but something was coming.
Yet from 8-6-01 to 9-11-01, the President never mentioned it in his White House meetings. Interesting.