A Message from Bernie Sanders to the BILLIONAIRES!

[Indeependent]

Most of my friends in their 40s and 50s are worse off than we were before GW.
Too many people being replaced by Business Visas.
Most of my retired friends are doing quite well.

Because us OLD PEOPLE knew to save and invest, and NOT rely on SS, medicare, etc.! ...The problem for you young people is you have one job, when I was in my early 20's starting a family, I worked 3 jobs, and did 3 jobs for over 10 years, how did you plan on getting rich?...LOTTO????

You're sound biting.
I was in Computers and from Reagan and on I was constantly in and out of work until 2004 when my career went stone dead.
I created systems on Wall Street that made millions and would be replaced by 50 Indians soon after the systems were completed.
I never had the chance to save a dime.
A Wall Street position means 80 hours a week and up with my highest salary ever being 100K for 2 years.
No time for a second job or to attend a college to change careers.

My situation is typical for people in their 40s-50s in big cities.

Yes, IT jobs nowadays are "full-time" jobs, literally.
Not like the old school jobs where you punch the card and be done with it...

I was always pushing the envelope.
I always put in features that nobody else thought of and most of my managers were really upset to see me being replaced by non-English speaking incompetent boobs.

Thats what corporate America has become, you are just... what is that word... ah,.. "expandable"......

Expendable.
Plug & Play.
The real money marker for major Entities is Institutional Trading; there's nothing like using every tool at your disposal to fake as good Quarterly earnings as possible.

 

[Indeependent]

Most of my friends in their 40s and 50s are worse off than we were before GW.
Too many people being replaced by Business Visas.
Most of my retired friends are doing quite well.

Because us OLD PEOPLE knew to save and invest, and NOT rely on SS, medicare, etc.! ...The problem for you young people is you have one job, when I was in my early 20's starting a family, I worked 3 jobs, and did 3 jobs for over 10 years, how did you plan on getting rich?...LOTTO????

Did you get rich?

I got COMFORTABLE, able to buy a new car every 2 years, have 3 homes, and enjoy what little life I have left!

That's pretty good, well done.
Hard working always pays out.

But that's not rich.

When talking about "rich", we should separate them too I guess. The problem is with the ones which are buying out politicians to be able to influence the politics to have financial gains out of that. Thats the disturbing part, and need to be dealt with...

YOU show me how to take the MONEY out of politics... Only way I see it, is you need people LIKE TRUMP, that have more than enough money, or find those REALLY RARE people that actually care about American's and refuse to be bought off.... We've made it so that MONEY is the object, it can BUY power, and CORRUPTION... just have to look at the Clinton' Crime Family Foundation!

Well, Trump BETTER win or we're royally...you know.

 

[alpine]

Are you the INDIGENT, or are you a hard working guy that makes a decent living...which he will TAX to buy the underlings votes?

So; he takes from me; and gives back healthcare, better wages, better work hours, better rights, smart government investments...

Where do I sign?
You just made me to vote for Bernie, you sneaky old man.........

Let's see better wages causes the compamnies that hire you, to fire you and work CHEAPER without your lazy ass! Healthcare... and the current cost of Obomacare is at least $2500 MORE than what we paid for BETTER COVERAGE before it was made a government entity.... Have you forgotten Grubers words...apparently YOu have!



What smart gov't investments, what better rights...UNIONS... which the MEMBERS now realize are basically a DemoRAT front groupo with their big donations? Get smart!

Before GW's Off-Shoring frenzy, people had jobs and careers and the Health Insurance to go with it.
I blame both parties for allowing US Entities to leave without paying dearly for it.

Seems to me it was Blow Job Clinton that signed NAFTA!

Clinton/GW/Obama...None helped, all hurt.
And now Senate Bill S744 would replace 1,600,000 Americans a year across 10 professions and Cruz and Rubio support it.

Rule of the thumb: if you let them suck your blood, they will suck you dry.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Well, apparently they understand politics, which is what all matters........

Politics = Pay for shit you want with OTHER PEOPLE's MONEY. Thatcher was correct.

 

[9aces]

Come on people, we have a HISTORY of FAILURE, and when it DOESN'T FAIL, the people are FAR WORSE OFF FROM IT!

Most of my friends in their 40s and 50s are worse off than we were before GW.
Too many people being replaced by Business Visas.
Most of my retired friends are doing quite well.

Because us OLD PEOPLE knew to save and invest, and NOT rely on SS, medicare, etc.! ...The problem for you young people is you have one job, when I was in my early 20's starting a family, I worked 3 jobs, and did 3 jobs for over 10 years, how did you plan on getting rich?...LOTTO????

You're sound biting.
I was in Computers and from Reagan and on I was constantly in and out of work until 2004 when my career went stone dead.
I created systems on Wall Street that made millions and would be replaced by 50 Indians soon after the systems were completed.
I never had the chance to save a dime.
A Wall Street position means 80 hours a week and up with my highest salary ever being 100K for 2 years.
No time for a second job or to attend a college to change careers.

My situation is typical for people in their 40s-50s in big cities.

Yes, IT jobs nowadays are "full-time" jobs, literally.
Not like the old school jobs where you punch the card and be done with it...

I was always pushing the envelope.
I always put in features that nobody else thought of and most of my managers were really upset to see me being replaced by non-English speaking incompetent boobs.

You know how rare that is?

Yeah, you do. So do I.

 

[alpine]

Well, apparently they understand politics, which is what all matters........

Politics = Pay for shit you want with OTHER PEOPLE's MONEY. Thatcher was correct.

Well, if "other people" "stole" money from you in the first place, that would be a fair deal imo.

 

[Vigilante]

There is and never has been an american dream. That's all bunk. The only ones living the dream are the uber wealthy. The rest of us are in survival mode. That's reality.

LAZY BASTARD!
Come on, work 4 jobs, go to school, stop using electricity and gas, get a bicycle.
People actually don't realize there are jobs that take 100 hours a week from your life.

Change jobs, work SMART!

Easy to say, not so easy to do.
I had several Career Counselors with PhDs advising me to stay in Programming because all the lying MBAs on Wall Street were saying they wanted IT people who spoke English.
Of course the CEOs interviewed by the Financial Publications were saying Americans weren't "Competitive".
Most Career Counselors today can't get $10.00/hour as their advice is worthless.
You are older and missed the Invasion.
I know you can't see that, but you did.

Hell, I have a 19 year old grandson, that is in the used car business, makes $2-$3 grand a week, another nephew that is an electrician that works OFF THE BOOKS, knows his trade and makes roughly the same, beside being a UNION shop member! Forget the IT shit, go into something that is CALLED for...A/C, plumbing, construction.... got a hobby?...Make it into a business. You get your mind stuck in a closed box, try to think outside of that box!

 

[Indeependent]

Most of my friends in their 40s and 50s are worse off than we were before GW.
Too many people being replaced by Business Visas.
Most of my retired friends are doing quite well.

Because us OLD PEOPLE knew to save and invest, and NOT rely on SS, medicare, etc.! ...The problem for you young people is you have one job, when I was in my early 20's starting a family, I worked 3 jobs, and did 3 jobs for over 10 years, how did you plan on getting rich?...LOTTO????

You're sound biting.
I was in Computers and from Reagan and on I was constantly in and out of work until 2004 when my career went stone dead.
I created systems on Wall Street that made millions and would be replaced by 50 Indians soon after the systems were completed.
I never had the chance to save a dime.
A Wall Street position means 80 hours a week and up with my highest salary ever being 100K for 2 years.
No time for a second job or to attend a college to change careers.

My situation is typical for people in their 40s-50s in big cities.

Yes, IT jobs nowadays are "full-time" jobs, literally.
Not like the old school jobs where you punch the card and be done with it...

I was always pushing the envelope.
I always put in features that nobody else thought of and most of my managers were really upset to see me being replaced by non-English speaking incompetent boobs.

You know how rare that is?

Yeah, you do. So do I.

Below average Accountants have Associations aka Unions and are not so easy to replace.
Companies will dump anybody they can if they can.

 

[Vigilante]

Are you the INDIGENT, or are you a hard working guy that makes a decent living...which he will TAX to buy the underlings votes?

So; he takes from me; and gives back healthcare, better wages, better work hours, better rights, smart government investments...

Where do I sign?
You just made me to vote for Bernie, you sneaky old man.........

Let's see better wages causes the compamnies that hire you, to fire you and work CHEAPER without your lazy ass! Healthcare... and the current cost of Obomacare is at least $2500 MORE than what we paid for BETTER COVERAGE before it was made a government entity.... Have you forgotten Grubers words...apparently YOu have!



What smart gov't investments, what better rights...UNIONS... which the MEMBERS now realize are basically a DemoRAT front groupo with their big donations? Get smart!

Before GW's Off-Shoring frenzy, people had jobs and careers and the Health Insurance to go with it.
I blame both parties for allowing US Entities to leave without paying dearly for it.

Seems to me it was Blow Job Clinton that signed NAFTA!

Clinton/GW/Obama...None helped, all hurt.
And now Senate Bill S744 would replace 1,600,000 Americans a year across 10 professions and Cruz and Rubio support it.

Son...become a politician and FIX the problems you see! IF you have the BALLS and the brains to do something about it, instead of typing away on the Net!

 

[Indeependent]

There is and never has been an american dream. That's all bunk. The only ones living the dream are the uber wealthy. The rest of us are in survival mode. That's reality.

LAZY BASTARD!
Come on, work 4 jobs, go to school, stop using electricity and gas, get a bicycle.
People actually don't realize there are jobs that take 100 hours a week from your life.

Change jobs, work SMART!

Easy to say, not so easy to do.
I had several Career Counselors with PhDs advising me to stay in Programming because all the lying MBAs on Wall Street were saying they wanted IT people who spoke English.
Of course the CEOs interviewed by the Financial Publications were saying Americans weren't "Competitive".
Most Career Counselors today can't get $10.00/hour as their advice is worthless.
You are older and missed the Invasion.
I know you can't see that, but you did.

Hell, I have a 19 year old grandson, that is in the used car business, makes $2-$3 grand a week, another nephew that is an electrician that works OFF THE BOOKS, knows his trade and makes roughly the same, beside being a UNION shop member! Forget the IT shit, go into something that is CALLED for...A/C, plumbing, construction.... got a hobby?...Make it into a business. You get your mind stuck in a closed box, try to think outside of that box!

I know people like that; 1 in a 100.
I'm too old for most manual labor; I don't want to die a cripple.
I have a hobby...I post on USMB.
It also depends on where you live.
In Nassau County plumbers make more than electricians because toilets MUST flush.

 

[Gracie]

So...those that worked their asses off...made money to make more money from their hard work are.....bad people?

 

[Indeependent]

So; he takes from me; and gives back healthcare, better wages, better work hours, better rights, smart government investments...

Where do I sign?
You just made me to vote for Bernie, you sneaky old man.........

Let's see better wages causes the compamnies that hire you, to fire you and work CHEAPER without your lazy ass! Healthcare... and the current cost of Obomacare is at least $2500 MORE than what we paid for BETTER COVERAGE before it was made a government entity.... Have you forgotten Grubers words...apparently YOu have!



What smart gov't investments, what better rights...UNIONS... which the MEMBERS now realize are basically a DemoRAT front groupo with their big donations? Get smart!

Before GW's Off-Shoring frenzy, people had jobs and careers and the Health Insurance to go with it.
I blame both parties for allowing US Entities to leave without paying dearly for it.

Seems to me it was Blow Job Clinton that signed NAFTA!

Clinton/GW/Obama...None helped, all hurt.
And now Senate Bill S744 would replace 1,600,000 Americans a year across 10 professions and Cruz and Rubio support it.

Son...become a politician and FIX the problems you see! IF you have the BALLS and the brains to do something about it, instead of typing away on the Net!

You have NO idea how dirty politics is here.
OMG! They'll label me a pedophile and spread rumors I committed incest.
That happened to a guy who ran for the Library Board.
Can you imagine that! Sick!
There's no depth to what an incumbent will do to retain power.

 

[Vigilante]

Well, apparently they understand politics, which is what all matters........

Politics = Pay for shit you want with OTHER PEOPLE's MONEY. Thatcher was correct.

Well, if "other people" "stole" money from you in the first place, that would be a fair deal imo.

Only way they can steal it is to TAX ME MORE! ...Or I have the OPTION of making less.... preplanned tactics always come in handy!

 

[9aces]

Because us OLD PEOPLE knew to save and invest, and NOT rely on SS, medicare, etc.! ...The problem for you young people is you have one job, when I was in my early 20's starting a family, I worked 3 jobs, and did 3 jobs for over 10 years, how did you plan on getting rich?...LOTTO????

You're sound biting.
I was in Computers and from Reagan and on I was constantly in and out of work until 2004 when my career went stone dead.
I created systems on Wall Street that made millions and would be replaced by 50 Indians soon after the systems were completed.
I never had the chance to save a dime.
A Wall Street position means 80 hours a week and up with my highest salary ever being 100K for 2 years.
No time for a second job or to attend a college to change careers.

My situation is typical for people in their 40s-50s in big cities.

Yes, IT jobs nowadays are "full-time" jobs, literally.
Not like the old school jobs where you punch the card and be done with it...

I was always pushing the envelope.
I always put in features that nobody else thought of and most of my managers were really upset to see me being replaced by non-English speaking incompetent boobs.

You know how rare that is?

Yeah, you do. So do I.

Below average Accountants have Associations aka Unions and are not so easy to replace.
Companies will dump anybody they can if they can.

Dump the rare...they always pay in the end.

 

[Indeependent]

Well, apparently they understand politics, which is what all matters........

Politics = Pay for shit you want with OTHER PEOPLE's MONEY. Thatcher was correct.

Well, if "other people" "stole" money from you in the first place, that would be a fair deal imo.

Only way they can steal it is to TAX ME MORE! ...Or I have the OPTION of making less.... preplanned tactics always come in handy!

Will Sanders raise your taxes significantly?

 

[Vigilante]

Let's see better wages causes the compamnies that hire you, to fire you and work CHEAPER without your lazy ass! Healthcare... and the current cost of Obomacare is at least $2500 MORE than what we paid for BETTER COVERAGE before it was made a government entity.... Have you forgotten Grubers words...apparently YOu have!



What smart gov't investments, what better rights...UNIONS... which the MEMBERS now realize are basically a DemoRAT front groupo with their big donations? Get smart!

Before GW's Off-Shoring frenzy, people had jobs and careers and the Health Insurance to go with it.
I blame both parties for allowing US Entities to leave without paying dearly for it.

Seems to me it was Blow Job Clinton that signed NAFTA!

Clinton/GW/Obama...None helped, all hurt.
And now Senate Bill S744 would replace 1,600,000 Americans a year across 10 professions and Cruz and Rubio support it.

Son...become a politician and FIX the problems you see! IF you have the BALLS and the brains to do something about it, instead of typing away on the Net!

You have NO idea how dirty politics is here.
OMG! They'll label me a pedophile and spread rumors I committed incest.
That happened to a guy who ran for the Library Board.
Can you imagine that! Sick!
There's no depth to what an incumbent will do to retain power.

So you are in Nassau County, so am I part of the time! I know all about dirty politics in Hempstead!

 

[Indeependent]

Before GW's Off-Shoring frenzy, people had jobs and careers and the Health Insurance to go with it.
I blame both parties for allowing US Entities to leave without paying dearly for it.

Seems to me it was Blow Job Clinton that signed NAFTA!

Clinton/GW/Obama...None helped, all hurt.
And now Senate Bill S744 would replace 1,600,000 Americans a year across 10 professions and Cruz and Rubio support it.

Son...become a politician and FIX the problems you see! IF you have the BALLS and the brains to do something about it, instead of typing away on the Net!

You have NO idea how dirty politics is here.
OMG! They'll label me a pedophile and spread rumors I committed incest.
That happened to a guy who ran for the Library Board.
Can you imagine that! Sick!
There's no depth to what an incumbent will do to retain power.

So you are in Nassau County, so am I part of the time! I know all about dirty politics in Hempstead!

Probably the MOST corrupt County in America.
At least I hope so; I would shudder to think there's worse corruption.

 

[Vigilante]

Well, apparently they understand politics, which is what all matters........

Politics = Pay for shit you want with OTHER PEOPLE's MONEY. Thatcher was correct.

Well, if "other people" "stole" money from you in the first place, that would be a fair deal imo.

Only way they can steal it is to TAX ME MORE! ...Or I have the OPTION of making less.... preplanned tactics always come in handy!

Will Sanders raise your taxes significantly?

If I stayed with my current income, yes, if I ADJUST it, probably just a % or 2!

 

[9aces]

Seems to me it was Blow Job Clinton that signed NAFTA!

Clinton/GW/Obama...None helped, all hurt.
And now Senate Bill S744 would replace 1,600,000 Americans a year across 10 professions and Cruz and Rubio support it.

Son...become a politician and FIX the problems you see! IF you have the BALLS and the brains to do something about it, instead of typing away on the Net!

You have NO idea how dirty politics is here.
OMG! They'll label me a pedophile and spread rumors I committed incest.
That happened to a guy who ran for the Library Board.
Can you imagine that! Sick!
There's no depth to what an incumbent will do to retain power.

So you are in Nassau County, so am I part of the time! I know all about dirty politics in Hempstead!

Probably the MOST corrupt County in America.
At least I hope so; I would shudder to think there's worse corruption.

Go to Africa sometime. This is nothing by comparison.

 

[Indeependent]

Clinton/GW/Obama...None helped, all hurt.
And now Senate Bill S744 would replace 1,600,000 Americans a year across 10 professions and Cruz and Rubio support it.

Son...become a politician and FIX the problems you see! IF you have the BALLS and the brains to do something about it, instead of typing away on the Net!

You have NO idea how dirty politics is here.
OMG! They'll label me a pedophile and spread rumors I committed incest.
That happened to a guy who ran for the Library Board.
Can you imagine that! Sick!
There's no depth to what an incumbent will do to retain power.

So you are in Nassau County, so am I part of the time! I know all about dirty politics in Hempstead!

Probably the MOST corrupt County in America.
At least I hope so; I would shudder to think there's worse corruption.

Go to Africa sometime. This is nothing by comparison.

I appreciate the advice but I'll skip for now.