75 years ago today: WWII begins

[Peach]

Can we agree:

-FDR was more ready for U.S. involvement in WWII than the general population?

-The Japanese internment here was a terrible mistake.

Actially, Churchill was more prepared than FDR. The disgrace of the Internment camps must continue to be discussed and not forgotten. Those that respond with "I didn't....why do I have to hear about/pay for..." are not going to learn in any event.

 

[Bush92]

Nazi Germany promoted the Volk or community. Capitalist thought they could control Hitler...but found out they were wrong. Nazi Germany had central planning, promotion of individual as it relates to the state, were as full blown communism promoted the state as it related to the individual. Socialism was the first step to communism. Nazi Germany wanted to destroy Soviet Union because it was the 2nd phase that Germany did not want to go to.

 

[Camp]

September 1st, 1939 two socialist countries invaded Poland. Nazi Germany and Soviet Union. Only conservative nation in the war Great Britain under Churchill.[/QUOTE
.

See the difference.

You are a complete idiot.

Well how come I know a basic fact like when Russia invaded Poland and you don't? I'm not the one who argued all day over a fact I was wrong about. You could have taken a minute and read one of the links about today's anniversary. Instead you came onto a thread about the 75th Anniversary of the invasion of Poland by Germany and pretended like you knew something. You were to lazy to even read a link or google a news report of your own choosing. You just jumped into the thread like you had some kind of knowledge and you actually didn't even get the basic details and facts about what happened that day. Just an annoying hack and troll with no credibility.
Do you even know what you were wrong about yet? Do you know when Russia invaded Poland or are you still insisting on staying stupid and misinformed?

 

[Peach]

Geez, I called him out for being a dumb ass for NOT KNOWING what the 75th Anniversary was. He thinks Poland was invaded by Russia 75 years ago today. The NAZI being socialist is age old classical stupidity. This just shows that Bush92 doesn't comprehend the fundamental basics of even the major details of how the war started.

The USSR and Nazi Germany had a non-aggression pact dumb ass. Learn your history.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

Niether side adhered to the Pact, though Stalin was stunned when Germany invaded.

 

[Peach]

It is so strange that the remembrance of the day that the Nazis started WW2 is chosen by the 'Conservatives' as something to attack the memory of FDR. No President ever does everything right. They are, after all, human beings. However, it was the empire ambitions of the Nazis and Japanese that caused WW2, not anything that FDR did.

And today, we have these same 'Conservatives' having organsms all over themselves about another strongman dictator, Putin. Hard to believe that they consider themselves to be patriots.

Odd how popular a KGB agent like Putin has become with the rabid right. Historu of coutse isn't as 'simple' as the right wing soundbites that substitute for thought. They believe they are individuals, though many use the same tired phrases. Whereas those who want to learn accept Daily Kos, for example, is heavily biased, they bleaters accept talking points as gospel.

 

[Jroc]

It is so strange that the remembrance of the day that the Nazis started WW2 is chosen by the 'Conservatives' as something to attack the memory of FDR. No President ever does everything right. They are, after all, human beings. However, it was the empire ambitions of the Nazis and Japanese that caused WW2, not anything that FDR did.

And today, we have these same 'Conservatives' having organsms all over themselves about another strongman dictator, Putin. Hard to believe that they consider themselves to be patriots.

Odd how popular a KGB agent like Putin has become with the rabid right. Historu of coutse isn't as 'simple' as the right wing soundbites that substitute for thought. They believe they are individuals, though many use the same tired phrases. Whereas those who want to learn accept Daily Kos, for example, is heavily biased, they bleaters accept talking points as gospel.

He has? We conservatives hate Communist thugs just more talking points from you

 

[Bush92]

Geez, I called him out for being a dumb ass for NOT KNOWING what the 75th Anniversary was. He thinks Poland was invaded by Russia 75 years ago today. The NAZI being socialist is age old classical stupidity. This just shows that Bush92 doesn't comprehend the fundamental basics of even the major details of how the war started.

The USSR and Nazi Germany had a non-aggression pact dumb ass. Learn your history.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

Niether side adhered to the Pact, though Stalin was stunned when Germany invaded.

But they carved up Poland.

 

[Jroc]

Geez, I called him out for being a dumb ass for NOT KNOWING what the 75th Anniversary was. He thinks Poland was invaded by Russia 75 years ago today. The NAZI being socialist is age old classical stupidity. This just shows that Bush92 doesn't comprehend the fundamental basics of even the major details of how the war started.

The USSR and Nazi Germany had a non-aggression pact dumb ass. Learn your history.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

Niether side adhered to the Pact, though Stalin was stunned when Germany invaded.

But they carved up Poland.

Details... Details

 

[Bush92]

September 1st, 1939 two socialist countries invaded Poland. Nazi Germany and Soviet Union. Only conservative nation in the war Great Britain under Churchill.[/QUOTE
.

See the difference.

You are a complete idiot.

Well how come I know a basic fact like when Russia invaded Poland and you don't? I'm not the one who argued all day over a fact I was wrong about. You could have taken a minute and read one of the links about today's anniversary. Instead you came onto a thread about the 75th Anniversary of the invasion of Poland by Germany and pretended like you knew something. You were to lazy to even read a link or google a news report of your own choosing. You just jumped into the thread like you had some kind of knowledge and you actually didn't even get the basic details and facts about what happened that day. Just an annoying hack and troll with no credibility.
Do you even know what you were wrong about yet? Do you know when Russia invaded Poland or are you still insisting on staying stupid and misinformed?

Germany and Russia were part of the same plan. You also misquoted me earlier today and even posted my own words, that supported what I had just told you. You are an absolute fucking idiot. You attempted to say Russia never invaded Poland. So it began a few days later. Still part of same plan. Nazi Germany AND Russia started WW II.

 

[Bush92]

Geez, I called him out for being a dumb ass for NOT KNOWING what the 75th Anniversary was. He thinks Poland was invaded by Russia 75 years ago today. The NAZI being socialist is age old classical stupidity. This just shows that Bush92 doesn't comprehend the fundamental basics of even the major details of how the war started.

The USSR and Nazi Germany had a non-aggression pact dumb ass. Learn your history.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

Niether side adhered to the Pact, though Stalin was stunned when Germany invaded.

But they carved up Poland.

Details... Details

OMFG!
17 September 1939 the Soviet invasion of Poland
Are you people brain dead, or Russians who have been taught a biased version of history. Nazi Germany and Rusdia carved up Poland. Ask the Poles how they feel about Russians? They hate the bastards. During Cold War there was a joke inPolsh Army : " If USA invaded from west and USSR from east, who would you shoot first?"
Answer: "The Americans...duty before pleasure."

 

[Jroc]

Geez, I called him out for being a dumb ass for NOT KNOWING what the 75th Anniversary was. He thinks Poland was invaded by Russia 75 years ago today. The NAZI being socialist is age old classical stupidity. This just shows that Bush92 doesn't comprehend the fundamental basics of even the major details of how the war started.

The USSR and Nazi Germany had a non-aggression pact dumb ass. Learn your history.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

Niether side adhered to the Pact, though Stalin was stunned when Germany invaded.

But they carved up Poland.

Yes they did...

 

[Unkotare]

Can we agree:

-FDR was more ready for U.S. involvement in WWII than the general population?

-The Japanese internment here was a terrible mistake.

Let's say a president, of either party, threw nearly 100,000 innocent American citizens into concentration camps next week - perhaps you among them - would you call it "a terrible mistake" or would you call it something else?

 

[Unkotare]

But we also saw many heroes who did the right thing amid utter hopelessness.

Indeed.

Memorial for Colo. Gov. Ralph Carr dedicated NIKKEI VIEW The Asian American Blog - GIL ASAKAWA S JAPANESE AMERICAN PERSPECTIVE ON POP CULTURE MEDIA POLITICS



"A rising star in the Republican Party during the 1930s, Carr was mentioned as a future presidential candidate when he famously became the only Western governor in the months following the bombing of Pearl Harbor to oppose first the harassment, and then the internment of Japanese Americans."

 

[Wildman]

Thankfully America had a President that had foreseen the coming war and had begun to prepare the nation for war despite the constant road blocks and attempts to delay and stop him by isolationist and libertarians. FDR brilliantly began research and development of weapons and weapon systems under the noses of of the partisan politics of the day so that when war came the nation was able to swing into production of the weapons that would win the war and save millions of American lives.

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apparently you know very little of FDR's history.

libercripple done his best to get us into that war.

 

[Unkotare]

To attempt to comfort yourself by claiming the Internment camps are the fault of FDR alone is innocent to a fault. .

Whose signature is on EO #9066? This is a very simple question.

 

[Camp]

September 1st, 1939 two socialist countries invaded Poland. Nazi Germany and Soviet Union. Only conservative nation in the war Great Britain under Churchill.[/QUOTE
.

See the difference.

You are a complete idiot.

Well how come I know a basic fact like when Russia invaded Poland and you don't? I'm not the one who argued all day over a fact I was wrong about. You could have taken a minute and read one of the links about today's anniversary. Instead you came onto a thread about the 75th Anniversary of the invasion of Poland by Germany and pretended like you knew something. You were to lazy to even read a link or google a news report of your own choosing. You just jumped into the thread like you had some kind of knowledge and you actually didn't even get the basic details and facts about what happened that day. Just an annoying hack and troll with no credibility.
Do you even know what you were wrong about yet? Do you know when Russia invaded Poland or are you still insisting on staying stupid and misinformed?

Germany and Russia were part of the same plan. You also misquoted me earlier today and even posted my own words, that supported what I had just told you. You are an absolute fucking idiot. You attempted to say Russia never invaded Poland. So it began a few days later. Still part of same plan. Nazi Germany AND Russia started WW II.

I never misquoted you. I never said or hinted that Russia did not invade Poland. Even now you say "a few days later" as if over two weeks, 16 days is only an insignificant "few days later". It's important because of what happened with Russia on the 15th of September, the reason why Russia held off. It's important because it shows other things that are out of your range of knowledge. A persons overall credibility and knowledge can be fairly judged when the person fails to recognize basic and fundamental facts. You want to brush it off like it's not a big deal that you got the facts of how combat in WWII began in 1939.

 

[Unkotare]

the US saw a few Muslims killed for no other reason than that they WERE Muslims; those that wanted to profit off the tragedy DID. There is no other explanation for the invasion of Iraq, unheard of in US history..

"There is no other explanation" that fits your agenda? Do you include all those democrats like Kerry and both Clintons who recognized the danger, not of the religion of Islam, but of terrorism in an unstable part of the world? How does the reason only "that they WERE Muslims" fit into your narrative against President Bush's direct and specific declarations to the nation and the world that we were NOT at war with the Islamic faith? How do you account for President Bush's impassioned pleas that Muslim Americans NOT be targeted simply for their faith?

Your partisanship has become a load too great for you to bear.

 

[Peach]

To attempt to comfort yourself by claiming the Internment camps are the fault of FDR alone is innocent to a fault. .

Whose signature is on EO #9066? This is a very simple question.

That is a question? An EO is signed by the President, who is Barrack Obama. No point is made by this odd question as you already wrote the answer; EOs are signed by the President at the time REGARDLESS of origin. Ever hear of them before?

 

[Camp]

Thankfully America had a President that had foreseen the coming war and had begun to prepare the nation for war despite the constant road blocks and attempts to delay and stop him by isolationist and libertarians. FDR brilliantly began research and development of weapons and weapon systems under the noses of of the partisan politics of the day so that when war came the nation was able to swing into production of the weapons that would win the war and save millions of American lives.

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apparently you know very little of FDR's history.

libercripple done his best to get us into that war.

That's the best you can do? Make fun of the guy for having polio. Sounds like you must be a person with an awesome lack of intellect. Do you say uh and duh a lot when you speak?

 

[Peach]

the US saw a few Muslims killed for no other reason than that they WERE Muslims; those that wanted to profit off the tragedy DID. There is no other explanation for the invasion of Iraq, unheard of in US history..

"There is no other explanation" that fits your agenda? Do you include all those democrats like Kerry and both Clintons who recognized the danger, not of the religion of Islam, but of terrorism in an unstable part of the world? How does the reason only "that they WERE Muslims" fit into your narrative against President Bush's direct and specific declarations to the nation and the world that we were NOT at war with the Islamic faith? How do you account for President Bush's impassioned pleas that Muslim Americans NOT be targeted simply for their faith?

Your partisanship has become a load too great for you to bear.

I have no agenda, and there was no danger. Lies fabricated were accepted as truth as few Americans could have imagined ANY US President LYING the country into war, and throwing away thousands of US lives just to play soldier and in Cheney's case receive millions in UNEARNED gains.