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The First Amendment should not be fucked with, yet the doe-eyed, O-bot groupies try to trash it just because this President can't respect the First Amendment.
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If Obama is allowed to get away with limiting religious liberty, what else is in his sights, and this governments'?
Very possibly. employer-based health insurance is already an albatross on the neck of American business. Europe and Japan have universal health care, and are a lot more competitive.
I do think that Obama is trying to preserve the current system for as long as possible because culturally, we like to think of ourselves as "rugged individualists". But even the Insurance Industry has admitted that the system as it is can't go on.
Well, what you think is unimportant.
It's obvious Obama is going to add mandate after unfunded mandate on insurance until it becomes impossible for employers to keep proving it.
Then of course voters will clamor for something and there Obama will be ready to roll out his one payer system he has always wanted.
That's the real plan, and it is all too obvious.
It's not what I think, it's what the reality is. We have the worst system in the world, hands down, but peopel are making money off of it.
Sorry, making employers provide common sense coverage is not an undue mandate. The Church isn't pleading poverty on this one. Providing birth control will be cheaper than paying for pregnancies. Their objection is a religious one.
Oh, if only the Catholic Church was so concerned when their priests were molesting children.
You just admitted a First Amendment Violation, Dick Head.Their objection is a religious one.
Well, what you think is unimportant.
It's obvious Obama is going to add mandate after unfunded mandate on insurance until it becomes impossible for employers to keep proving it.
Then of course voters will clamor for something and there Obama will be ready to roll out his one payer system he has always wanted.
That's the real plan, and it is all too obvious.
It's not what I think, it's what the reality is. We have the worst system in the world, hands down, but peopel are making money off of it.
Sorry, making employers provide common sense coverage is not an undue mandate. The Church isn't pleading poverty on this one. Providing birth control will be cheaper than paying for pregnancies. Their objection is a religious one.
Oh, if only the Catholic Church was so concerned when their priests were molesting children.
Exactly!!
And in this country we are guaranteed the right to religious freedom. The Government is supposed to protect those guaranteed rights.
Nice strawman attempt.
Um, as the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land, it sure as hell does.It's not what I think, it's what the reality is. We have the worst system in the world, hands down, but peopel are making money off of it.
Sorry, making employers provide common sense coverage is not an undue mandate. The Church isn't pleading poverty on this one. Providing birth control will be cheaper than paying for pregnancies. Their objection is a religious one.
Oh, if only the Catholic Church was so concerned when their priests were molesting children.
Exactly!!
And in this country we are guaranteed the right to religious freedom. The Government is supposed to protect those guaranteed rights.
Nice strawman attempt.
The right to religious freedom does not extend to violating business and labor laws. It never has.
Um, as the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land, it sure as hell does.Exactly!!
And in this country we are guaranteed the right to religious freedom. The Government is supposed to protect those guaranteed rights.
Nice strawman attempt.
The right to religious freedom does not extend to violating business and labor laws. It never has.
does the establishmnet of no religion ring a bell?
The founders did not want us to give ONE religion favors over another.
How is religious freedom favoring one religion?
Your stupidity is showing.....again.
Because she's a liberal and at the heart of liberalism is the belief that NO religion should be allowed.
EEOC and the Constitution, especially the latter because it is the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND.um, as the constitution is the supreme law of the land, it sure as hell does.the right to religious freedom does not extend to violating business and labor laws. It never has.
can you name the laws that church owned businesses are currently allowed to violate without consequence or penalty?
Are you a religion?So let me get the cpomplain some of you have striaght.
You believe that one's religion gives one the right to supercede national policy?
Okay.. my religion informs me that I can descriminate in hiring anybody who is a believer of any religion whatever..
Is that okay with you guys?
Because remember now, it's like MY PRECIOUS RELIGON so the entire society else has to bow down to whatever harebrained ideas I have, right?
Nitwits.
C. Exceptions
1. Religious Organizations
Under Title VII, religious organizations are permitted to give employment preference to members of their own religion.[42] The exception applies only to those institutions whose purpose and character are primarily religious.[43] That determination is to be based on [a]ll significant religious and secular characteristics.[44] Although no one factor is dispositive, significant factors to consider that would indicate whether an entity is religious include:
Do its articles of incorporation state a religious purpose?
Are its day-to-day operations religious (e.g., are the services the entity performs, the product it produces, or the educational curriculum it provides directed toward propagation of the religion)?
Is it not-for-profit?
Is it affiliated with or supported by a church or other religious organization? [45]
This exception is not limited to religious activities of the organization.[46] However, it only allows religious organizations to prefer to employ individuals who share their religion.[47] The exception does not allow religious organizations otherwise to discriminate in employment on protected bases other than religion, such as race, color, national origin, sex, age, or disability.[48] Thus, a religious organization is not permitted to engage in racially discriminatory hiring by asserting that a tenet of its religious beliefs is not associating with people of other races. Similarly, a religious organization is not permitted to deny fringe benefits to married women but not to married men by asserting a religiously based view that only men can be the head of a household.
So let me get the cpomplain some of you have striaght.
You believe that one's religion gives one the right to supercede national policy?
Okay.. my religion informs me that I can descriminate in hiring anybody who is a believer of any religion whatever..
Is that okay with you guys?
Because remember now, it's like MY PRECIOUS RELIGON so the entire society else has to bow down to whatever harebrained ideas I have, right?
Nitwits.
Those who thought this was just about abortion and that the Right would not think of touching contraceptives is getting quite the eye-opening experience.
Good. Better now we see the true agenda of the Right than later when it might be too late.
Money has ZERO to do with it. It has everything to do with thier religious practices...but we know your stance on religion, don't we?Very possibly. employer-based health insurance is already an albatross on the neck of American business. Europe and Japan have universal health care, and are a lot more competitive.
I do think that Obama is trying to preserve the current system for as long as possible because culturally, we like to think of ourselves as "rugged individualists". But even the Insurance Industry has admitted that the system as it is can't go on.
Well, what you think is unimportant.
It's obvious Obama is going to add mandate after unfunded mandate on insurance until it becomes impossible for employers to keep proving it.
Then of course voters will clamor for something and there Obama will be ready to roll out his one payer system he has always wanted.
That's the real plan, and it is all too obvious.
It's not what I think, it's what the reality is. We have the worst system in the world, hands down, but peopel are making money off of it.
Sorry, making employers provide common sense coverage is not an undue mandate. The Church isn't pleading poverty on this one. Providing birth control will be cheaper than paying for pregnancies. Their objection is a religious one.
Oh, if only the Catholic Church was so concerned when their priests were molesting children.
It's not what I think, it's what the reality is. We have the worst system in the world, hands down, but peopel are making money off of it.
Sorry, making employers provide common sense coverage is not an undue mandate. The Church isn't pleading poverty on this one. Providing birth control will be cheaper than paying for pregnancies. Their objection is a religious one.
Oh, if only the Catholic Church was so concerned when their priests were molesting children.
Exactly!!
And in this country we are guaranteed the right to religious freedom. The Government is supposed to protect those guaranteed rights.
Nice strawman attempt.
Simple enough solution.
Universal Health Care. Get employers out of the picture altogether.
The notion I could be denied medical treatment because my employer is a religious fanatic is kind of frightening.