538 Analysis: Why the Democrats have shifted Left

Mac1958

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It's not exactly a secret that the Democratic Party has clearly moved to the Left over the last generation or two. The only people who appear to disagree with that are the Progressive (Regressive) Left - because, I assume, they merely see the party as coming more in line with their beliefs. As the party becomes less liberal and more leftist authoritarian, they become more comfortable and satisfied.

Unfortunately, many of us who lean Left are watching the party become something with which we can no longer identify, leaving us without a party. And the alternative "major" party has done its own changing, and is currently something that is becoming more and more ugly and vulgar. Personally, I don't think the increasing division is a coincidence as much as it is a reaction.

Interesting cultural & statistical analysis on this by 538: Why The Democrats Have Shifted Left Over The Last 30 Years

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This means that the recent uptick in the share of voters holding liberal beliefs is driven not just by the departure of conservative voters, but also by Democrats themselves becoming more liberal. It is, of course, hard to identify just one reason the Democratic Party has shifted leftward in recent years, but in my conversations with experts, they all pointed to party elites (both politicians and influential liberal voices online). Now, some research has found that cues from the parties and party elites are even shaping voters’ personal beliefs, particularly on issues of race and immigration.

But why have so many Democrats moved to the left on these issues? On the one hand, the fact that race and immigration played such a central role in the 2016 election was certainly a contributing factor. A 2018 study by Peter Enns at Cornell University found that rather than voters choosing a candidate who matched their views on controversies like the Black Lives Matter movement, they actually changed their own views to match those of their preferred candidates. And there is evidence that Trump is continuing to drive some of this — although, perhaps not in the way one might expect. There isn’t evidence, for instance, that his rhetoric has contributed to an uptick in racist and sexist attitudes among white voters; instead, as FiveThirtyEight contributor Matt Grossmann has written, “the evidence shows that liberal-leaning voters moved away from [Trump’s] views faster than conservatives moved toward them.”

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The centrist, big business democrats are the most cowardly jellyfish that ever pretended to fight for the common man. They buckled under pressure and made deep comprises at every turn. Only the progressives seem to have any courage or conviction. If the center is so great for America why did they seem to hardly ever accomplish anything for the working person?
 
The centrist, big business democrats are the most cowardly jellyfish that ever pretended to fight for the common man. They buckled under pressure and made deep comprises at every turn. Only the progressives seem to have any courage or conviction. If the center is so great for America why did they seem to hardly ever accomplish anything for the working person?
You do realize that the Trumpsters say exactly the same kind of thing?

What is your opinion of President Obama going public with his concerns about the trajectory of the party? Don't you think him saying that in public is important?
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The centrist, big business democrats are the most cowardly jellyfish that ever pretended to fight for the common man. They buckled under pressure and made deep comprises at every turn. Only the progressives seem to have any courage or conviction. If the center is so great for America why did they seem to hardly ever accomplish anything for the working person?
You do realize that the Trumpsters say exactly the same kind of thing?

What is your opinion of President Obama going public with his concerns about the trajectory of the party? Don't you think him saying that in public is important?
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The party has it's problems to be sure but if we are ever to claw back some power from the billionaires the progressives are clearly the ones to lead that fight.
 
The centrist, big business democrats are the most cowardly jellyfish that ever pretended to fight for the common man. They buckled under pressure and made deep comprises at every turn. Only the progressives seem to have any courage or conviction. If the center is so great for America why did they seem to hardly ever accomplish anything for the working person?
You do realize that the Trumpsters say exactly the same kind of thing?

What is your opinion of President Obama going public with his concerns about the trajectory of the party? Don't you think him saying that in public is important?
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The party has it's problems to be sure but if we are ever to claw back some power from the billionaires the progressives are clearly the ones to lead that fight.
Well, that's what we're getting from both ends. What I don't understand is why both ends think they're going to "beat" the other.
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The centrist, big business democrats are the most cowardly jellyfish that ever pretended to fight for the common man. They buckled under pressure and made deep comprises at every turn. Only the progressives seem to have any courage or conviction. If the center is so great for America why did they seem to hardly ever accomplish anything for the working person?
You do realize that the Trumpsters say exactly the same kind of thing?

What is your opinion of President Obama going public with his concerns about the trajectory of the party? Don't you think him saying that in public is important?
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The party has it's problems to be sure but if we are ever to claw back some power from the billionaires the progressives are clearly the ones to lead that fight.
Well, that's what we're getting from both ends. What I don't understand is why both ends think they're going to "beat" the other.
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Right wing anger is directed downward towards regular people while left-wing anger is directed at the powerful where it belongs. This distinction makes all the difference if for some reason you want to live in a free country.
 
The centrist, big business democrats are the most cowardly jellyfish that ever pretended to fight for the common man. They buckled under pressure and made deep comprises at every turn. Only the progressives seem to have any courage or conviction. If the center is so great for America why did they seem to hardly ever accomplish anything for the working person?
You do realize that the Trumpsters say exactly the same kind of thing?

What is your opinion of President Obama going public with his concerns about the trajectory of the party? Don't you think him saying that in public is important?
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The party has it's problems to be sure but if we are ever to claw back some power from the billionaires the progressives are clearly the ones to lead that fight.
Well, that's what we're getting from both ends. What I don't understand is why both ends think they're going to "beat" the other.
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Right wing anger is directed downward towards regular people while left-wing anger is directed at the powerful where it belongs. This distinction makes all the difference if for some reason you want to live in a free country.
No, the Trumpsters are doing the same thing, their version of populism.

Donald Trump, the Perfect Populist
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Left and right is a misapprehension.
You are either totalitarian or you are not.
When was the democrat party actually "liberal?"
The 1800s?
 
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You are either totalitarian or you are not.
Do you see any irony there?
Why would i
Because the notion that people are ONLY one or the other is totalitarian in itself.

Societies exist along a continuum, it's not one or the other.
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To have a "continuum" implies something must be centralized and dictates. Which is what totalitarianism is.
Quite the opposite. Exactly the opposite.

There is no totalitarianism in this country. We are not North Korea. That's just hyperbole.
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Our constitution was a liberal, anti authoritarian document.
It centralized power, but in only the most basic ways.
To make sure states dont take away basic human and civil rights, to ensure individual liberty and national defense.
For a "centrist" to believe in forms of bureaucracy dictating to people what they can and cant do when it doesn't bother anyone else is totalitarian.
 
You are either totalitarian or you are not.
Do you see any irony there?
Why would i
Because the notion that people are ONLY one or the other is totalitarian in itself.

Societies exist along a continuum, it's not one or the other.
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To have a "continuum" implies something must be centralized and dictates. Which is what totalitarianism is.
Quite the opposite. Exactly the opposite.

There is no totalitarianism in this country. We are not North Korea. That's just hyperbole.
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Thats a centrist grinding on a fence post for the sake of civility.
 
Both sides have abandoned the center

Much of it is because of powerful media sources that attack anyone who dares to seek compromise
 
Do you see any irony there?
Why would i
Because the notion that people are ONLY one or the other is totalitarian in itself.

Societies exist along a continuum, it's not one or the other.
.
To have a "continuum" implies something must be centralized and dictates. Which is what totalitarianism is.
Quite the opposite. Exactly the opposite.

There is no totalitarianism in this country. We are not North Korea. That's just hyperbole.
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Thats a centrist grinding on a fence post for the sake of civility.
I think that most people realize that life is not binary, one or the other, all or nothing.
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"There is no totalitarianism in this country"
:rofl:
Sorry but that shits funny
 

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