5 Of The Most Violent Cities In The World Are Right Here In America

[longknife]

What an honor! (sarcasm)

They are:

#13 St. Louis

#21 Baltimore

#32 San Juan

#41 New Orleans

#42 Detroit

How they got there is outlined @ 5 Of The Most Violent Cities In The World Are Right Here In America

The complete list is there too and 41 are in Mexico and Latin America. TGhe other four are in South Africa. Go figure. Where are the European ones with Muslim enclaves?

 

[depotoo]

Why isn’t Chicago on that list, I wonder.

 

[Hossfly]

Why isn’t Chicago on that list, I wonder.

Because the communities have been well organized. Thanks, Obama

 

[Penelope]

Why because Trump says so. He has that wrong as well.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

I am surprised that New York City isn't on the list, especially if cops are no longer allowed on any school properties there.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[TheOldSchool]

Where are the European ones with Muslim enclaves?

In your head next to the voices

 

[Penelope]

I am surprised that New York City isn't on the list, especially if cops are no longer allowed on any school properties there.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Nor California, what is wrong with those darn Democrat states.

 

[harmonica]

Why isn’t Chicago on that list, I wonder.

Chi murder rate much lower than very pro-gun St Louis
STl rated number 1 sometimes on US dangerous cities list
St. Louis tops list of, ’25 Most Dangerous Cities in America’
I've been posting this on many threads
but some people don't like these statistics
and Chi's population density is about twice that of STL

 

[Rustic]

What an honor! (sarcasm)

They are:

#13 St. Louis

#21 Baltimore

#32 San Juan

#41 New Orleans

#42 Detroit

How they got there is outlined @ 5 Of The Most Violent Cities In The World Are Right Here In America

The complete list is there too and 41 are in Mexico and Latin America. TGhe other four are in South Africa. Go figure. Where are the European ones with Muslim enclaves?

Typical, progressives, Muslims and cartel leaders....
Peas in a pod

 

[eflatminor]

Odd that the top 12 most violent cities all have de facto bans on civilian firearm ownership. Very strange!

It's almost as if bad guys are not willing to follow the rules, leaving good guys vulnerable to the rules only they follow.

Naw! They just need another law or two, that'll do the trick.

 

[Moonglow]

Odd that the top 12 most violent cities all have de facto bans on civilian firearm ownership. Very strange!

It's almost as if bad guys are not willing to follow the rules, leaving good guys vulnerable to the rules only they follow.

Naw! They just need another law or two, that'll do the trick.

St Louis doesn't..

 

[Rustic]

Odd that the top 12 most violent cities all have de facto bans on civilian firearm ownership. Very strange!

It's almost as if bad guys are not willing to follow the rules, leaving good guys vulnerable to the rules only they follow.

Naw! They just need another law or two, that'll do the trick.

Yeah, because criminals will obey laws thought up by Progressives...

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Sorry, but you do all realize that this list is stupid right?
Do I even need to say why?

 

[2aguy]

What an honor! (sarcasm)

They are:

#13 St. Louis

#21 Baltimore

#32 San Juan

#41 New Orleans

#42 Detroit

How they got there is outlined @ 5 Of The Most Violent Cities In The World Are Right Here In America

The complete list is there too and 41 are in Mexico and Latin America. TGhe other four are in South Africa. Go figure. Where are the European ones with Muslim enclaves?

Do you know which political party has controlled those American cities for decades?

 

[2aguy]

I am surprised that New York City isn't on the list, especially if cops are no longer allowed on any school properties there.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Nor California, what is wrong with those darn Democrat states.

Each one of those American cities has been controlled by democrats for decades, some even longer, genius.

 

[2aguy]

Why isn’t Chicago on that list, I wonder.

Chi murder rate much lower than very pro-gun St Louis
STl rated number 1 sometimes on US dangerous cities list
St. Louis tops list of, ’25 Most Dangerous Cities in America’
I've been posting this on many threads
but some people don't like these statistics
and Chi's population density is about twice that of STL

And you know that St. Louis has a problem because they have a revolving door policy for gun offenders...you have been shown that information, you ignore that information....

Law abiding gun owners are not driving the crime rate in St. Louis.....democrats who let violent criminals out of jail are driving the crime rate, dittos the other cities as well..

Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why

Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.

At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.

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Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
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When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.

And Baltimore,

 

[harmonica]

...again --lot's of people are surprised Chicago also isn't on the list
...I also thought LA was bad until my coworker said she heard otherwise--we couldn't believe it, so we researched
2017:
STL population 320,000 murders 199
Chi population 2,700,00 murders 650
LA pop. 3,900,000 murders 271
NYC pop. 8,500,00 murders 290--compare this to STL
and before 2017, Chicago's murders were a lot lower
Crosses count 199 St. Louis murders in 2017

Chicago homicides down sharply in 2017, still over 650 slain
2017 was record-low for homicides in New York City

also, the other state's murder rates are lower than Missouri
Murder Rates Nationally and By State | Death Penalty Information Center
STL 8.8 .... Il 8.2.....CA 4.9...NY 3.2

 

[2aguy]

Why isn’t Chicago on that list, I wonder.

Chi murder rate much lower than very pro-gun St Louis
STl rated number 1 sometimes on US dangerous cities list
St. Louis tops list of, ’25 Most Dangerous Cities in America’
I've been posting this on many threads
but some people don't like these statistics
and Chi's population density is about twice that of STL

And you know the truth, and ignore it......

Baltimore has a small population compared to New York or Houston.......and Baltimore has extreme gun control.....all of the gun laws you guys want.......but New York was cleaned up by Rudy Giuliani and his policies are still in effect......and Baltimore has a higher gun murder rate than Houston...where you have gun stores on every corner, they can carry guns easily, and they are on the border with Mexico, a Narco drug state.......

You don't know what you are talking about.....you have no clue......

Murder rate 2017
Baltimore......343
Population of cities 2016:


N.Y................8.5 million
Houston........2.3 million
Baltimore......620,961


Murder rate 2016:


N.Y................335
Houston .......301
Baltimore......318

And for even more truth.......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[2aguy]

again --lot's of people are surprised Chicago also isn't on the list
I also thought LA was bad until my coworker said she heard otherwise--we couldn't believe it, so we researched
2017:
STL population 320,000 murders 199
Chi population 2,700,00 murders 650
LA pop. 3,900,000 murders 271
NYC pop. 8,500,00 murders 290--compare this to STL
and before 2017, Chicagos murders were a lot lower
Crosses count 199 St. Louis murders in 2017
Chicago has fewer murders in 2017, but 650 killed - CNN
Chicago homicides down sharply in 2017, still over 650 slain
2017 was record-low for homicides in New York City

also, the other state's murder rates are lower than Missouri
Murder Rates Nationally and By State | Death Penalty Information Center
STL 8.8 CA 4.9

Yes...democrat crime policies are driving the murder rate in St. Louis...and Chicago....both places have a revolving door policy for violent gun offenders.....

Law abiding gun owners are not driving the gun murder rates.....democrats letting criminals with multiple felonies out of jail, gun felonies, who then go on to murder people, are the problem....

We have a criminal problem, we have democrat party problem......we don't have a gun problem.

St. Louis

Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why

Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.

At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.

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Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
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When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.

Chicago....

Alleged killer of Chicago police commander was on the streets due to unusually light sentence for major parole violations

Chicago Police commander Paul Bauer was savagely executed, “shot six times in the head, neck, torso, back and wrist.” No fewer than “three civilian witnesses identified Shomari Legghette in a police lineup as the man who struggled with Bauer at the top of a stairwell outside the Thompson Center in the Loop moments before his death” less than a month ago.

Now it turns out that Legghette should have been in prison on any rational basis, but wasn’t because Chicago’s justice system is “a joke” in the eyes of criminals -- in the words of Chicago’s police superintendent.

Greg Re of the Chicago Sun-Times describes how it is that Legghette was free to do what he wished in the streets of Chicago:

The suspect who allegedly gunned down Chicago police Commander Paul Bauer near City Hall earlier this month received an unusually light sentence for major parole violations in 2007, court records show.
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The documents, reviewed by the Chicago Sun-Times, reveal that Bauer's accused killer, Shomari Legghette, dodged up to 30 years in prison when he was booked for the violations that year.

At the time of his 2007 sentencing, Legghette was on parole following an armed robbery conviction that landed him a 16-year sentence, and prison time from 1998 to 2005.

Records show that police found Legghette in the South Side in 2007 with $1,800 in cash, body armor, a chrome revolver, and a baggie of heroin, the Sun-Times reported.

Evidently, this was not regarded as THAT serious:

But instead of pursuing felony charges for those parole violations, records show, prosecutors opted to send Legghette to prison for only a few weeks after he pled guilty to a lesser charge of possessing a weapon with a defaced serial number.


Chicago...

Chicago Officials (Finally) Recognize Criminals Cause Crime

Chicago officials have also begun to admit that the recent spike in homicides is a crime problem – not a gun problem. Just this week, Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson acknowledged that “as long as we fail to hold violent repeat offenders responsible for their actions, we’re going to hear the same stories of murders and shootings in certain parts of our city.”

Johnson blamed Chicago’s broken justice system.

“It’s frustrating for [Chicago police] to arrest a guy on Friday for an illegal gun and then the next Thursday they see him right back out on the street with another illegal gun.” A police spokesman echoed Johnson’s frustration: “with nearly half of those we arrest for murder being repeated gun offenders, we need help to ensure these individuals stay off our streets after repeated arrests for guns.”

Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez made a similar acknowledgment last week: “Criminals know and understand our system” and “tell prosecutors that Illinois gun laws are ‘a joke.’”

She noted that the worst offenders “are spending fewer and fewer days behind bars for their violent and repeat felony gun offenses,” and that “an unexplained revolving door” is “spitting these convicted criminals out of prison after they have served only a fraction of their court-imposed sentences for violent gun offenses.”

 

[harmonica]

...again --lot's of people are surprised Chicago also isn't on the list
...I also thought LA was bad until my coworker said she heard otherwise--we couldn't believe it, so we researched
2017:
STL population 320,000 murders 199
Chi population 2,700,00 murders 650
LA pop. 3,900,000 murders 271
NYC pop. 8,500,00 murders 290--compare this to STL
and before 2017, Chicago's murders were a lot lower
Crosses count 199 St. Louis murders in 2017

Chicago homicides down sharply in 2017, still over 650 slain
2017 was record-low for homicides in New York City

also, the other state's murder rates are lower than Missouri
Murder Rates Nationally and By State | Death Penalty Information Center
STL 8.8 .... Il 8.2.....CA 4.9...NY 3.2

NY, CA, Chi gun controlled
STL, MO very pro gun