3rd major political party needed

3rd Parties are a good idea but Its more of a mirage on the horizon than a cure-all. Our Constitution is mute on the rules Congress passes to run it's own bodies and as a result, that silence has lead to the complete shit-show we have up in Washington. A 3rd party is going to be just as unscrupulous with the same rule book in it's hands; is it not?

Changing the rules will be the only thing that changes the situation. Nothing else.

Now; how do you change the rules? It's not easy. The only remedy I see is very hard to pull off. First it will take an idealistic nominee who sews up their Party's nomination before the convention. The latter is pretty easy. Bush and McCain had their nominations sewn up on Super Tuesday. The former is very difficult because they will be doing something not in their party's best interest.

The second portion would be that you would have to have a figure in the other major party that combines all 3 of the following qualities:

1. Either be a Senator on the come in the party or be in the high leadership of the House.
2. Have an eye on the White House in the future
3. Most importantly, be willing to play along with the scenario that follows.

The next step is to have the nominee who has won their party's nomination NOT name their running mate until after the national convention. Once they get the nomination (no rule forces them to have a VP or "full ticket" at the convention) they pick the person who satisfies all 3 of the qualities above. Now this is predicated on the time between winning the delegates In the Spring and the National Convention in the Summer....the two people have had meetings where they have divided up the playing field so to speak. The top of the ticket offers their running mate at least 2 plum pieces of autonomy in return for their help in lining up the opposition party's support for their initiatives.

Just for Example, if you had a Republican on top of the ticket, they want the following: Social Security reform that raises the retirement age and caps payouts for well-to-do Seniors. To get that past the Congress, the Presidential Candidate offers the Democratic Party running mate the following; support for raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour for example. Or campaign finance reform. Or (depending on the make-up of Congress), Republican support for restoring the cloture threshold to 75 or whatever.

The playing field can be divided up any number of ways but the point is that for any real change to occur, you'd need an idealistic bi-partisan ticket where the President really wants to do something momentous, the VP would have the clout to credibly dangle patronage to members of his own party for support on the President's initiatives, a Congress who has a bit more of a wide-angle lens and of course, they would have to win in the Electoral College.
 
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60% of Americans are not satisfied with either political party, in fact most would support a major 3rd political party. But what would a 3rd party look like? Any thoughts?


Perceived Need for Third Major Party Remains High in U.S.

Most Americans want a third party. The agreement stops there

How much longer can the two-party system hold?

The only way it's going to happen is if at the very least House elections are done by Proportional Representation. With the current system it's impossible for a third party to break down either of the main two parties because they'll literally have to take votes from one of these two parties, and people will get nervous this will help the people they like the least.
 
There are approximately 35 political parties in the United States.

If most people wanted a third party with the clout of the dominant two, there would be one.

The fact is few people vote for third party candidates.

They have been brainwashed by the big two into believing that a 3rd party candidate is a vote for "the other person".

In America, voting third party is basically a wasted vote. I remember in 2016 wishing there was a realistic alternative to Trump and Clinton but there wasn’t. What will it take to implement a third party that poses real competition to the Dems and Republicans?

Constitutional Tyranny Starts With "Weewee on the People"

You're begging the question by believing we need a different monopoly over political power, which is all "our" representative system represents. Electing is not voting; it is giving up your right to vote on specific issues to a pre-owned flunkie or heir of the private sector.
 
THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT


60% of Americans are not satisfied with either political party, in fact most would support a major 3rd political party. But what would a 3rd party look like? Any thoughts?


Perceived Need for Third Major Party Remains High in U.S.

Most Americans want a third party. The agreement stops there

How much longer can the two-party system hold?

If another major party was needed, it would exist. It's not like they're formally established by the government or something. The very fact that people haven't rallied to any of the many, many small parties out there in large enough numbers to make it a viable third party is a pretty good indication that they don't really feel the need to.
 
There are approximately 35 political parties in the United States.

If most people wanted a third party with the clout of the dominant two, there would be one.

The fact is few people vote for third party candidates.

They have been brainwashed by the big two into believing that a 3rd party candidate is a vote for "the other person".

Well, again, they obviously don't want it very badly. What they want is for OTHER people to do the work and take the risks to build up a party so they can just herd up behind it exactly the way they do the two major parties now.

People get the government they deserve.
 
We have 2 big government parties.

We need a small government party.

Support and become active in the LIBERTARIAN PARTY, the only hope the US has to remain SOLVENT.
 
THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT


60% of Americans are not satisfied with either political party, in fact most would support a major 3rd political party. But what would a 3rd party look like? Any thoughts?


Perceived Need for Third Major Party Remains High in U.S.

Most Americans want a third party. The agreement stops there

How much longer can the two-party system hold?
Get money out of politics, problem solved....

but that will never happen and that is why you still believe we only have 2 parties...

All you have to do to get money out of politics is to stop making the outcome of elections so financially lucrative by way of the government interfering in everything.

Are you ready to give up Big Brother government?
 
All you have to do to get money out of politics is


Get real.

When Newt was Speaker, the US cut spending. That is what we need, patriotic leaders with courage to do what is right for America. Today, that is not the GOP or the Dems.
 
I want just one poor guy to be President. Give him 4-8 years. See how it works. He could be the genius who turns this country around.

One has to wonder how "genius" and "poor" work together. I mean, if the guy can't even manage to run his own life effectively, how's he supposed to run the government effectively?
 
THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT


60% of Americans are not satisfied with either political party, in fact most would support a major 3rd political party. But what would a 3rd party look like? Any thoughts?


Perceived Need for Third Major Party Remains High in U.S.

Most Americans want a third party. The agreement stops there

How much longer can the two-party system hold?
Vote Libertarian or STFU!!!

Why in God's name would anyone sensible vote Libertarian? They can't get their heads out of their asses and act like a serious, mature party. If they figure out that there are other issues in the world slightly more important than complete legalization of marijuana, and stop having hairy naked guys at their national convention, we'll talk.
 
THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT


60% of Americans are not satisfied with either political party, in fact most would support a major 3rd political party. But what would a 3rd party look like? Any thoughts?


Perceived Need for Third Major Party Remains High in U.S.

Most Americans want a third party. The agreement stops there

How much longer can the two-party system hold?
It will take some powerful people with a LOT of money to launch a new major party.

I've been saying for some time now that our country is ripe for a new major party.

The commies have taken over the Democratic party, and the nazis have taken over the Republican party. Both are becoming more and more polarized every day, urged on by their respective propaganda organs.
 
And who is responsible for sending back to Congress those who ‘screw up…’

Correct: the voters – not the two major parties; and nothing will change with the creation of a third party as long as voters remain ignorant, apathetic, and uninvolved.
You're still left with the "lesser of two evils" choice, so they can continue to sit on their motherfucking asses and fail to produce because they know the alternative is not better.

Everyone should vote Libertarian until this shit dies.
 
THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT


60% of Americans are not satisfied with either political party, in fact most would support a major 3rd political party. But what would a 3rd party look like? Any thoughts?


Perceived Need for Third Major Party Remains High in U.S.

Most Americans want a third party. The agreement stops there

How much longer can the two-party system hold?
a third party would mean winning with less than 50% of the vote on all elections. is that acceptable?
 
What the U.S. needs is a 'No' vote...indicating rejecting of all candidates.

The way U.S. politics works, if in the entire country one candidate gets 2 votes and the other candidate gets 1 vote, the first candidate claims a 66% to 33% majority and huge mandate.

Giving people a 'No' vote would really show how people felt.
 
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1. We believe in a level playing field. People and businesses earning identical incomes should be paying identical taxes. The government should not be interfering in our lives or the marketplace, deciding what behaviors or enterprises should be rewarded and which should be punished. No more exemptions, deductions, and credits. In exchange, all Americans will see a much lower tax rate and a balanced budget.

2. We are living decades longer than our ancestors of 1935, when Social Security was enacted. Since we are living longer, we should be working longer. Common sense is a core value in the G5000 Party! The Social Security and Medicare eligibility ages should be immediately raised to 70, and indexed to 9 percent of the population going forward.

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More to come...
 
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"Well if I don't get my child tax credit, I'm going to stop fucking my wife!" (*sniff*)
 
THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT


60% of Americans are not satisfied with either political party, in fact most would support a major 3rd political party. But what would a 3rd party look like? Any thoughts?


Perceived Need for Third Major Party Remains High in U.S.

Most Americans want a third party. The agreement stops there

How much longer can the two-party system hold?
It will take some powerful people with a LOT of money to launch a new major party.

I've been saying for some time now that our country is ripe for a new major party.

The commies have taken over the Democratic party, and the nazis have taken over the Republican party. Both are becoming more and more polarized every day, urged on by their respective propaganda organs.
lol

‘Nazis’ and ‘commies’ – nonsense.

But the perception that the Democratic Party and Republican Party have lost touch with the majority of the American people is solely the fault of the American people – the consequence of their apathy and lack of involvement.

If only hyper-partisans are participating in either party, both parties will be hyper-partisan.
 

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