3rd major political party needed

[bill718]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT


60% of Americans are not satisfied with either political party, in fact most would support a major 3rd political party. But what would a 3rd party look like? Any thoughts?


Perceived Need for Third Major Party Remains High in U.S.

Most Americans want a third party. The agreement stops there

How much longer can the two-party system hold?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

There are approximately 35 political parties in the United States.

If most people wanted a third party with the clout of the dominant two, there would be one.

The fact is few people vote for third party candidates.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There are approximately 35 political parties in the United States.

If most people wanted a third party with the clout of the dominant two, there would be one.

The fact is few people vote for third party candidates.

They have been brainwashed by the big two into believing that a 3rd party candidate is a vote for "the other person".

 

[sparky]

Third Parties in American Politics

Third parties lack the financial resources to mount effective campaigns. Today, the cost of running for office is staggering. The two major parties consolidate their dominance of the political system by staging high-profile primaries and national conventions subsidized by taxpayer money. They exclude third-party candidates from most debates, especially those for national office. Although he held around 5 percent support in the polls, for example, Ralph Nader could not participate in the 2000 presidential debates. Indeed, he was not even allowed to sit in the audience, despite possessing a ticket!

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

There are approximately 35 political parties in the United States.

If most people wanted a third party with the clout of the dominant two, there would be one.

The fact is few people vote for third party candidates.

They have been brainwashed by the big two into believing that a 3rd party candidate is a vote for "the other person".

In most cases, it is. That's a fact. Hence the "lesser of two evils" vote pattern.

Now, if a party were to arise that actually approached the constitutional model of government in a more authentic and effective manner than the two dominant parties, we'd be talking.

There's also that little fact that education is the key to good government, because government is filled with would-be P.T. Barnums looking for that next sucker. Compared to even fifty years ago, American citizens are civic morons. That was accomplished with intent.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There are approximately 35 political parties in the United States.

If most people wanted a third party with the clout of the dominant two, there would be one.

The fact is few people vote for third party candidates.

They have been brainwashed by the big two into believing that a 3rd party candidate is a vote for "the other person".

In most cases, it is. That's a fact. Hence the "lesser of two evils" vote pattern.

Now, if a party were to arise that actually approached the constitutional model of government in a more authentic and effective manner than the two dominant parties, we'd be talking.

There's also that little fact that education is the key to good government, because it is filled with would-be P.T. Barnums looking for that next sucker. Compared to even fifty years ago, American citizens are civic morons. That was accomplished with intent.

The biggest problem with the lesser of two evils is that they are still evil

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT


60% of Americans are not satisfied with either political party, in fact most would support a major 3rd political party. But what would a 3rd party look like? Any thoughts?


Perceived Need for Third Major Party Remains High in U.S.

Most Americans want a third party. The agreement stops there

How much longer can the two-party system hold?

Get money out of politics, problem solved....

but that will never happen and that is why you still believe we only have 2 parties...

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

There are approximately 35 political parties in the United States.

If most people wanted a third party with the clout of the dominant two, there would be one.

The fact is few people vote for third party candidates.

They have been brainwashed by the big two into believing that a 3rd party candidate is a vote for "the other person".

In most cases, it is. That's a fact. Hence the "lesser of two evils" vote pattern.

Now, if a party were to arise that actually approached the constitutional model of government in a more authentic and effective manner than the two dominant parties, we'd be talking.

There's also that little fact that education is the key to good government, because it is filled with would-be P.T. Barnums looking for that next sucker. Compared to even fifty years ago, American citizens are civic morons. That was accomplished with intent.

The biggest problem with the lesser of two evils is that they are still evil

Perhaps, but your 3rd remains impotent.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There are approximately 35 political parties in the United States.

If most people wanted a third party with the clout of the dominant two, there would be one.

The fact is few people vote for third party candidates.

They have been brainwashed by the big two into believing that a 3rd party candidate is a vote for "the other person".

In most cases, it is. That's a fact. Hence the "lesser of two evils" vote pattern.

Now, if a party were to arise that actually approached the constitutional model of government in a more authentic and effective manner than the two dominant parties, we'd be talking.

There's also that little fact that education is the key to good government, because it is filled with would-be P.T. Barnums looking for that next sucker. Compared to even fifty years ago, American citizens are civic morons. That was accomplished with intent.

The biggest problem with the lesser of two evils is that they are still evil

Perhaps, but your 3rd remains impotent.

The big two have been very efficient in their brainwashing.

 

[sparky]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT


60% of Americans are not satisfied with either political party, in fact most would support a major 3rd political party. But what would a 3rd party look like? Any thoughts?


Perceived Need for Third Major Party Remains High in U.S.

Most Americans want a third party. The agreement stops there

How much longer can the two-party system hold?

Get money out of politics, problem solved....

but that will never happen and that is why you still believe we only have 2 parties...

we only have the $$$ party , 2 parties is being their illusion

~S~

 

[Oddball]

A second major political party is needed.

 

[Oddball]

Get money out of politics, problem solved....

but that will never happen and that is why you still believe we only have 2 parties...

The money will never be out of politics, especially so if the politicians ever get to be the ones who get to control all of the money spent on politics.

 

[Lesh]

Well it's clear that the Republican Party has degenerated into the Party of Trump.

Do real Republicans start their own party?

 

[william the wie]

Well there is a big push for a socialist party among the Ds that should make a great 3rd party.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

There are approximately 35 political parties in the United States.

If most people wanted a third party with the clout of the dominant two, there would be one.

The fact is few people vote for third party candidates.

They have been brainwashed by the big two into believing that a 3rd party candidate is a vote for "the other person".

In most cases, it is. That's a fact. Hence the "lesser of two evils" vote pattern.

Now, if a party were to arise that actually approached the constitutional model of government in a more authentic and effective manner than the two dominant parties, we'd be talking.

There's also that little fact that education is the key to good government, because it is filled with would-be P.T. Barnums looking for that next sucker. Compared to even fifty years ago, American citizens are civic morons. That was accomplished with intent.

The biggest problem with the lesser of two evils is that they are still evil

Perhaps, but your 3rd remains impotent.

The big two have been very efficient in their brainwashing.

Knowledge of the Constitution is an effective defense against any brainwashing.

 

[OldLady]

There are approximately 35 political parties in the United States.

If most people wanted a third party with the clout of the dominant two, there would be one.

The fact is few people vote for third party candidates.

They have been brainwashed by the big two into believing that a 3rd party candidate is a vote for "the other person".

Maine votes for Independents from time to time--we have one in the Senate right now, and I remember a governor not that long ago. But usually either a Repub or a Dem wins anyway. Now with Ranked Choice Voting, it will be interesting to see if that makes any difference. People would feel freer, I think, to give their #1 vote to their third party candidate, knowing that it is not an "all or nothing" proposition.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There are approximately 35 political parties in the United States.

If most people wanted a third party with the clout of the dominant two, there would be one.

The fact is few people vote for third party candidates.

They have been brainwashed by the big two into believing that a 3rd party candidate is a vote for "the other person".

Maine votes for Independents from time to time--we have one in the Senate right now, and I remember a governor not that long ago. But usually either a Repub or a Dem wins anyway. Now with Ranked Choice Voting, it will be interesting to see if that makes any difference. People would feel freer, I think, to give their #1 vote to their third party candidate, knowing that it is not an "all or nothing" proposition.

Ranked Choice Voting might be the only thing that will save this country. So the two parties and their minions will fight against it to their dying breath.

 

[aaronleland]

Get money out of politics, problem solved....

but that will never happen and that is why you still believe we only have 2 parties...

The money will never be out of politics, especially so if the politicians ever get to be the ones who get to control all of the money spent on politics.

We need government, but it will always be by it's very nature (human nature) corrupt. It's like when people bitch that Congress voted themselves a pay raise. Of course! We'd all vote ourselves a pay raise. Why would a politician with wealthy donors vote against those donors donating?

 

[OldLady]

There are approximately 35 political parties in the United States.

If most people wanted a third party with the clout of the dominant two, there would be one.

The fact is few people vote for third party candidates.

They have been brainwashed by the big two into believing that a 3rd party candidate is a vote for "the other person".

Maine votes for Independents from time to time--we have one in the Senate right now, and I remember a governor not that long ago. But usually either a Repub or a Dem wins anyway. Now with Ranked Choice Voting, it will be interesting to see if that makes any difference. People would feel freer, I think, to give their #1 vote to their third party candidate, knowing that it is not an "all or nothing" proposition.

Ranked Choice Voting might be the only thing that will save this country. So the two parties and their minions will fight against it to their dying breath.

Funny you should say that, since the Republican who just lost because of it has filed a lawsuit saying it is unconstitutional. The case will be heard December 5. His chances of winning are not very good, according to most.
But you are probably right that the Dems had their oars in the water before this--the state legislature kicked and screamed and dragged its heels on this, and managed to keep the state elections out of it; I doubt if only Republicans were involved. We can only use it for federal elections and primaries until we make a change of one word in our state constitution.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT


60% of Americans are not satisfied with either political party, in fact most would support a major 3rd political party. But what would a 3rd party look like? Any thoughts?


Perceived Need for Third Major Party Remains High in U.S.

Most Americans want a third party. The agreement stops there

How much longer can the two-party system hold?

If Americans are not satisfied with the current state of American politics, they need to stop whining about it and get involved in politics at the very local level.

They need to stop obsessing over parties and focus instead on the issues, on facts, and on solutions that actually work – not letters after the name of political candidates.

Problems with the American political process can’t be fixed from the top down, just as a third party isn’t a solution to those problems.