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30 Years And Counting!
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Didn't the Right say that "climate change" is a NEW term coined just recently because global warming allegedly ended 12 years ago?
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"11. Environmentalists warned in 2002 the world had a decade to go green
Environmentalist write George Monbiot wrote in the UK Guardian that within “as little as 10 years, the world will be faced with a choice: arable farming either continues to feed the world’s animals or it continues to feed the world’s people. It cannot do both.”
About 930 million people around the world were undernourished in 2002, according to U.N. data. By 2014, that number shrank to 805 million. Sorry, Monbiot.
12. Global warming apocalypse 1980s edition
The U.N. was already claiming in the late 1980s that the world had only a decade to solve global warming or face the consequences.
The San Jose Mercury News reported June 30, 1989 that a “senior environmental official at the United Nations, Noel Brown, says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by the year 2000.”
That prediction didn’t come true 15 years ago, and the U.N. is sounding the same alarm today."
After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’
Environmentalist write George Monbiot wrote in the UK Guardian that within “as little as 10 years, the world will be faced with a choice: arable farming either continues to feed the world’s animals or it continues to feed the world’s people. It cannot do both.”
About 930 million people around the world were undernourished in 2002, according to U.N. data. By 2014, that number shrank to 805 million. Sorry, Monbiot.
12. Global warming apocalypse 1980s edition
The U.N. was already claiming in the late 1980s that the world had only a decade to solve global warming or face the consequences.
The San Jose Mercury News reported June 30, 1989 that a “senior environmental official at the United Nations, Noel Brown, says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by the year 2000.”
That prediction didn’t come true 15 years ago, and the U.N. is sounding the same alarm today."
After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming ‘Apocalypse’
Wyatt earp
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Didn't the Right say that "climate change" is a NEW term coined just recently because global warming allegedly ended 12 years ago?
Who claimed global warming ended 12 years ago?
And you are a dunce, playing stupid...
Old Rocks
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All of the Scientific Societies, all of the National Academys of Science of the various nations, and all the major Universities have policy statements that say that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger. But here we have a butt load of non-scientist ignoramouses that claim to know more than all the scientists.
This year we had billions of dollars in damage from 56" of rain in six days around Houston. Two back to back hurricanes that devastated the Carribean Islands. And one of those hurricanes established all kinds of records for energy and endurance as a Cat 5 with wind speeds of 185 miles an hour. An American Territory with 3 and 1/2 Americans residing there was totally devastated, and little recovery has been made at this time.
This year we had billions of dollars in damage from 56" of rain in six days around Houston. Two back to back hurricanes that devastated the Carribean Islands. And one of those hurricanes established all kinds of records for energy and endurance as a Cat 5 with wind speeds of 185 miles an hour. An American Territory with 3 and 1/2 Americans residing there was totally devastated, and little recovery has been made at this time.
Old Rocks
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Climate Change
Adopted in October 2006; revised April 2010; March 2013; April 2015
Position Statement
Decades of scientific research have shown that climate can change from both natural and anthropogenic causes. The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2011), the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2013) and the U.S. Global Change Research Program (Melillo et al., 2014) that global climate has warmed in response to increasing concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other greenhouse gases. The concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are now higher than they have been for many thousands of years. Human activities (mainly greenhouse-gas emissions) are the dominant cause of the rapid warming since the middle 1900s (IPCC, 2013). If the upward trend in greenhouse-gas concentrations continues, the projected global climate change by the end of the twenty-first century will result in significant impacts on humans and other species. The tangible effects of climate change are already occurring. Addressing the challenges posed by climate change will require a combination of adaptation to the changes that are likely to occur and global reductions of CO2 emissions from anthropogenic sources.
Purpose
This position statement (1) summarizes the scientific basis for the conclusion that human activities are the primary cause of recent global warming; (2) describes the significant effects on humans and ecosystems as greenhouse-gas concentrations and global climate reach projected levels; and (3) provides information for policy decisions guiding mitigation and adaptation strategies designed to address the current and future impacts of anthropogenic warming.
Rationale
Scientific advances have greatly reduced previous uncertainties about recent global warming. Ground-station measurements have shown a warming trend of ~0.85 °C since 1880, a trend consistent with (1) retreat of northern hemisphere snow and Arctic sea ice; (2) greater heat storage in the ocean; (3) retreat of most mountain glaciers; (4) an ongoing rise in global sea level; and (5) proxy reconstructions of temperature change over past centuries from archives that include ice cores, tree rings, lake sediments, boreholes, cave deposits, and corals. Both instrumental records and proxy indices from geologic sources show that global mean surface temperature was higher during the last few decades of the 20th century and the first decade of the 21st than during any comparable period during the preceding four centuries (National Research Council, 2006). Earth’s surface has been successively warmer in each of the last three decades and each of those has been warmer than any decade since 1850. The period from 1983 to 2012 is likely the warmest 30 years in the northern hemisphere during the last 1,400 years (IPCC, 2013). This recent warming of Earth’s surface is now consistently supported by a wide range of measurements and proxies, including land- and satellite-based measurements.
GSA Position Statement - Climate Change
American Geological Society. Pretty straightforward declaration.
Adopted in October 2006; revised April 2010; March 2013; April 2015
Position Statement
Decades of scientific research have shown that climate can change from both natural and anthropogenic causes. The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2011), the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2013) and the U.S. Global Change Research Program (Melillo et al., 2014) that global climate has warmed in response to increasing concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other greenhouse gases. The concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are now higher than they have been for many thousands of years. Human activities (mainly greenhouse-gas emissions) are the dominant cause of the rapid warming since the middle 1900s (IPCC, 2013). If the upward trend in greenhouse-gas concentrations continues, the projected global climate change by the end of the twenty-first century will result in significant impacts on humans and other species. The tangible effects of climate change are already occurring. Addressing the challenges posed by climate change will require a combination of adaptation to the changes that are likely to occur and global reductions of CO2 emissions from anthropogenic sources.
Purpose
This position statement (1) summarizes the scientific basis for the conclusion that human activities are the primary cause of recent global warming; (2) describes the significant effects on humans and ecosystems as greenhouse-gas concentrations and global climate reach projected levels; and (3) provides information for policy decisions guiding mitigation and adaptation strategies designed to address the current and future impacts of anthropogenic warming.
Rationale
Scientific advances have greatly reduced previous uncertainties about recent global warming. Ground-station measurements have shown a warming trend of ~0.85 °C since 1880, a trend consistent with (1) retreat of northern hemisphere snow and Arctic sea ice; (2) greater heat storage in the ocean; (3) retreat of most mountain glaciers; (4) an ongoing rise in global sea level; and (5) proxy reconstructions of temperature change over past centuries from archives that include ice cores, tree rings, lake sediments, boreholes, cave deposits, and corals. Both instrumental records and proxy indices from geologic sources show that global mean surface temperature was higher during the last few decades of the 20th century and the first decade of the 21st than during any comparable period during the preceding four centuries (National Research Council, 2006). Earth’s surface has been successively warmer in each of the last three decades and each of those has been warmer than any decade since 1850. The period from 1983 to 2012 is likely the warmest 30 years in the northern hemisphere during the last 1,400 years (IPCC, 2013). This recent warming of Earth’s surface is now consistently supported by a wide range of measurements and proxies, including land- and satellite-based measurements.
GSA Position Statement - Climate Change
American Geological Society. Pretty straightforward declaration.
Old Rocks
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Human Impacts on Climate
The Earth's climate is now clearly out of balance and is warming. Many components of the climate system--including the temperatures of the atmosphere, land and ocean, the extent of sea ice and mountain glaciers, the sea level, the distribution of precipitation, and the length of seasons--are now changing at rates and in patterns that are not natural and are best explained by the increased atmospheric abundances of greenhouse gases and aerosols generated by human activity during the 20th century. Global average surface temperatures increased on average by about 0.6°C over the period 1956--2006.
As of 2006, eleven of the previous twelve years were warmer than any others since 1850. The observed rapid retreat of Arctic sea ice is expected to continue and lead to the disappearance of summertime ice within this century. Evidence from most oceans and all continents except Antarctica shows warming attributable to human activities. Recent changes in many physical and biological systems are linked with this regional climate change. A sustained research effort, involving many AGU members and summarized in the 2007 assessments of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, continues to improve our scientific understanding of the climate.
During recent millennia of relatively stable climate, civilization became established and populations have grown rapidly. In the next 50 years, even the lower limit of impending climate change--an additional global mean warming of 1°C above the last decade--is far beyond the range of climate variability experienced during the past thousand years and poses global problems in planning for and adapting to it. Warming greater than 2°C above 19th century levels is projected to be disruptive, reducing global agricultural productivity, causing widespread loss of biodiversity, and--if sustained over centuries--melting much of the Greenland ice sheet with ensuing rise in sea level of several meters. If this 2°C warming is to be avoided, then our net annual emissions of CO2must be reduced by more than 50 percent within this century. With such projections, there are many sources of scientific uncertainty, but none are known that could make the impact of climate change inconsequential. Given the uncertainty in climate projections, there can be surprises that may cause more dramatic disruptions than anticipated from the most probable model projections.
American Geophysical Union Revises Position On Climate Change
The American Geophysical Society's statement on global warming. Unequivocal statement. The AGU has more climate scientists among it's members than any other Scientific Society in the world. But you ignoramouses think that you know more than these scientists. And most of your yammering is based on the rants of an obese junky on the AM radio, or the spews of a fake British Lord. LOL
The Earth's climate is now clearly out of balance and is warming. Many components of the climate system--including the temperatures of the atmosphere, land and ocean, the extent of sea ice and mountain glaciers, the sea level, the distribution of precipitation, and the length of seasons--are now changing at rates and in patterns that are not natural and are best explained by the increased atmospheric abundances of greenhouse gases and aerosols generated by human activity during the 20th century. Global average surface temperatures increased on average by about 0.6°C over the period 1956--2006.
As of 2006, eleven of the previous twelve years were warmer than any others since 1850. The observed rapid retreat of Arctic sea ice is expected to continue and lead to the disappearance of summertime ice within this century. Evidence from most oceans and all continents except Antarctica shows warming attributable to human activities. Recent changes in many physical and biological systems are linked with this regional climate change. A sustained research effort, involving many AGU members and summarized in the 2007 assessments of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, continues to improve our scientific understanding of the climate.
During recent millennia of relatively stable climate, civilization became established and populations have grown rapidly. In the next 50 years, even the lower limit of impending climate change--an additional global mean warming of 1°C above the last decade--is far beyond the range of climate variability experienced during the past thousand years and poses global problems in planning for and adapting to it. Warming greater than 2°C above 19th century levels is projected to be disruptive, reducing global agricultural productivity, causing widespread loss of biodiversity, and--if sustained over centuries--melting much of the Greenland ice sheet with ensuing rise in sea level of several meters. If this 2°C warming is to be avoided, then our net annual emissions of CO2must be reduced by more than 50 percent within this century. With such projections, there are many sources of scientific uncertainty, but none are known that could make the impact of climate change inconsequential. Given the uncertainty in climate projections, there can be surprises that may cause more dramatic disruptions than anticipated from the most probable model projections.
American Geophysical Union Revises Position On Climate Change
The American Geophysical Society's statement on global warming. Unequivocal statement. The AGU has more climate scientists among it's members than any other Scientific Society in the world. But you ignoramouses think that you know more than these scientists. And most of your yammering is based on the rants of an obese junky on the AM radio, or the spews of a fake British Lord. LOL
Old Rocks
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Unlike you, these people are very intelligent and well educated in the very disciplines relevant to the subject.^ Great cut and paste. You got anything besides what someone else says?
Old Rocks
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Didn't the Right say that "climate change" is a NEW term coined just recently because global warming allegedly ended 12 years ago?
Who claimed global warming ended 12 years ago?
And you are a dunce, playing stupid...
The term “ global warming hiatus” is a bit of a misnomer. It refers to a period of slower surface warming in the wake of the 1997-98 super El Niño compared to the previous decades. However, make no mistake, the globe’s average temperature has still risen over that period (including record heat in 2014) and temperatures now are the hottest they’ve been since recordkeeping began in the 1880s. So let’s call it what it really is: a slowdown, not a disappearance of global warming.
A revised analysis shows a slight recent uptick in the global average temperature. Credit: NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information
The new findings show that even the concept of the slowdown could be overstated.
“There is no slowdown in global warming,” Russell Vose, the head of the climate science division at the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI), said. “Or stated differently, the trend over the past decade and half is in line with the trend since 1950.
No Pause in Global Warming
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_October_2017_v6-1.jpg
Does the period from 1998 to 2015 look cooler or the same as the period from 1983 to 1998? And how about the last three years? Or even the last four months? See that spike? We are entering a weak La Nina, that is a real anomaly. It should not be there by all of our previous experiance.
Wyatt earp
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Didn't the Right say that "climate change" is a NEW term coined just recently because global warming allegedly ended 12 years ago?
Who claimed global warming ended 12 years ago?
And you are a dunce, playing stupid...
The term “ global warming hiatus” is a bit of a misnomer. It refers to a period of slower surface warming in the wake of the 1997-98 super El Niño compared to the previous decades. However, make no mistake, the globe’s average temperature has still risen over that period (including record heat in 2014) and temperatures now are the hottest they’ve been since recordkeeping began in the 1880s. So let’s call it what it really is: a slowdown, not a disappearance of global warming.
A revised analysis shows a slight recent uptick in the global average temperature. Credit: NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information
The new findings show that even the concept of the slowdown could be overstated.
“There is no slowdown in global warming,” Russell Vose, the head of the climate science division at the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI), said. “Or stated differently, the trend over the past decade and half is in line with the trend since 1950.
No Pause in Global Warming
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_October_2017_v6-1.jpg
Does the period from 1998 to 2015 look cooler or the same as the period from 1983 to 1998? And how about the last three years? Or even the last four months? See that spike? We are entering a weak La Nina, that is a real anomaly. It should not be there by all of our previous experiance.
Can you comprehend the earth is 4.5 billion years old ?
Can you comprehend it?
A 100 years , 10 years is crap, junk science
Wyatt earp
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Human Impacts on Climate
The Earth's climate is now clearly out of balance and is warming. Many components of the climate system--including the temperatures of the atmosphere, land and ocean, the extent of sea ice and mountain glaciers, the sea level, the distribution of precipitation, and the length of seasons--are now changing at rates and in patterns that are not natural and are best explained by the increased atmospheric abundances of greenhouse gases and aerosols generated by human activity during the 20th century. Global average surface temperatures increased on average by about 0.6°C over the period 1956--2006.
As of 2006, eleven of the previous twelve years were warmer than any others since 1850. The observed rapid retreat of Arctic sea ice is expected to continue and lead to the disappearance of summertime ice within this century. Evidence from most oceans and all continents except Antarctica shows warming attributable to human activities. Recent changes in many physical and biological systems are linked with this regional climate change. A sustained research effort, involving many AGU members and summarized in the 2007 assessments of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, continues to improve our scientific understanding of the climate.
During recent millennia of relatively stable climate, civilization became established and populations have grown rapidly. In the next 50 years, even the lower limit of impending climate change--an additional global mean warming of 1°C above the last decade--is far beyond the range of climate variability experienced during the past thousand years and poses global problems in planning for and adapting to it. Warming greater than 2°C above 19th century levels is projected to be disruptive, reducing global agricultural productivity, causing widespread loss of biodiversity, and--if sustained over centuries--melting much of the Greenland ice sheet with ensuing rise in sea level of several meters. If this 2°C warming is to be avoided, then our net annual emissions of CO2must be reduced by more than 50 percent within this century. With such projections, there are many sources of scientific uncertainty, but none are known that could make the impact of climate change inconsequential. Given the uncertainty in climate projections, there can be surprises that may cause more dramatic disruptions than anticipated from the most probable model projections.
American Geophysical Union Revises Position On Climate Change
The American Geophysical Society's statement on global warming. Unequivocal statement. The AGU has more climate scientists among it's members than any other Scientific Society in the world. But you ignoramouses think that you know more than these scientists. And most of your yammering is based on the rants of an obese junky on the AM radio, or the spews of a fake British Lord. LOL
We are leaving the last ice age you stupid fuck
Yup!
Nope. Scientists have been correctly predicting warming for over 40 years now. Only denier liars pretend otherwise. Even in the 1970s, most scientists were predicting warming.
In contrast, almost all deniers have been and are still predicting an ice age. Denialism is an Ice Age Cult. That promised ice age never arrives, but that inconvenient fact doesn't bother them. The denier cult says the HolyIceAge will arrive RealSoonNow, so all deniers have faith.
A group of 1,700 scientists and experts signed a letter 25 years ago warning of massive ecological and societal collapse if nothing was done to curb overpopulation, pollution and, ultimately, the capitalist society in which we live today.
No, they didn't rant about politics. Only you do that, because you're a political cult acolyte, along with all the other deniers.
New York Magazine writer David Wallace-Wells
My God, you mean _the_ David Wallace-Wells?
Couldn't find any actual scientists, eh kook? You had to grab a journalist that nobody has heard of, because all the science says you're just making crap up.
Anyways, shouldn't you be on your knees praying to your IceAgeGod along with all the other denier cultists?
jon_berzerk
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I'm sure the world IS headed towards a global catastrophe. They just have their timing off by a few Billion years.
I'm sure the world IS headed towards a global catastrophe.
yes we are already seeing it
where leftism has gotten a foot hold
cuba
venezuela
to name a couple
Judith curry, the rest are paid off hacks
In Bizzarro Universe, where everything is the opposite of our reality, that's true. However, in this universe, Curry is a paid shill, while the climate scientists are honest.
She also gets every fact wrong. However, to denier cultists, Curry getting every single thing wrong gives her more credibility, because their cult worships failure. If someone doesn't fail completely, deniers cast them out of the cult.
Wyatt earp
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Old rocks you bitch about glaciers melting well no shit Sherlock...they have been melting for over 10,000 years ..
If you get off your fat ass you can see the remains of boulders in Illinois from the glaciers..what do you think this happened over night?
If you get off your fat ass you can see the remains of boulders in Illinois from the glaciers..what do you think this happened over night?
Wyatt earp
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Judith curry, the rest are paid off hacks
In Bizzarro Universe, where everything is the opposite of our reality, that's true. However, in this universe, Curry is a paid shill, while the climate scientists are honest.
She also gets every fact wrong. However, to denier cultists, Curry getting every single thing wrong gives her more credibility, because their cult worships failure. If someone doesn't fail completely, deniers cast them out of the cult.
Judith is way honest and gets everything right you paid shrill ..
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It was a change of term. Since they had changed it to global warming, they had to change it back when this cooling trend started again. If you don’t recognize their pattern of deceit, what can I say?
Didn't the Right say that "climate change" is a NEW term coined just recently because global warming allegedly ended 12 years ago?
Wyatt earp
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Yup!
Nope. Scientists have been correctly predicting warming for over 40 years now. Only denier liars pretend otherwise. Even in the 1970s, most scientists were predicting warming.
In contrast, almost all deniers have been and are still predicting an ice age. Denialism is an Ice Age Cult. That promised ice age never arrives, but that inconvenient fact doesn't bother them. The denier cult says the HolyIceAge will arrive RealSoonNow, so all deniers have faith.
A group of 1,700 scientists and experts signed a letter 25 years ago warning of massive ecological and societal collapse if nothing was done to curb overpopulation, pollution and, ultimately, the capitalist society in which we live today.
No, they didn't rant about politics. Only you do that, because you're a political cult acolyte, along with all the other deniers.
New York Magazine writer David Wallace-Wells
My God, you mean _the_ David Wallace-Wells?
Couldn't find any actual scientists, eh kook? You had to grab a journalist that nobody has heard of, because all the science says you're just making crap up.
Anyways, shouldn't you be on your knees praying to your IceAgeGod along with all the other denier cultists?
Only mamooth and old rocks will continue to defend the impossible..
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