2nd Drone "event". Could this be a warm up for a drone strike?

Sallow

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When stuff like this bubbles up to the light it generally means lots of activity. There's probably been lots of drones probing Iranian defenses.

Or maybe not.

:eusa_shifty:

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Wait, there is a second drone stike? You mean in addition to the one on the First?
 
WE lost another drone?....

One was shot at..

Generally when this sort of stuff makes the press there means alot of spookie stuff is happening.

I'm thinking a nuclear facility is going to experience an "accident" soon.
 
... Just guessing...

... But maybe you'd get more responses on your thread if you included a link or something so people could figure out what the h*ll you're talking about?

Because seriously, man -- we can't tell from your first post if a drone killed people or got blown up or what happened, or where it happened, or how or who or when!

So, do you think you could be just a bit clearer?

-- Paravani
 
WE lost another drone?....

One was shot at..

Generally when this sort of stuff makes the press there means alot of spookie stuff is happening.

I'm thinking a nuclear facility is going to experience an "accident" soon.

God. A President has to be a cool man to sit through a debate and not say something like that is in the works when he is being hammered by some vague Mitt about how Mitt would do it better but without any specifics.
 
Drone shot down by Iran opens Pandora's box...
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China Drone Threat Highlights New Global Arms Race
February 21, 2013 - China's acknowledgment earlier this week that it considered using a drone strike on foreign soil to target a major Burmese drug trafficker wanted in the killings of 13 Chinese sailors highlights Beijing's increasing capacity in unmanned aerial warfare. It also foreshadows the dangers of a burgeoning global drone race.
Liu Yuejin, director of the Public Security Ministry's anti-drug bureau, told the state-run Global Times newspaper Monday the plan called for bombing drug lord Naw Kham's mountain hideout in northeastern Burma using an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) to end a months-long manhunt. China's top drug tsar told the newspaper the drone strike option was eventually passed over to try to capture Naw Kham alive, which finally occurred last April in a joint Chinese-Laotian operation. But his comments reveal that China is weighing targeting killings seriously.

The Yilong and Xianglong, two Chinese drone models.
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Beijing is becoming more willing to project power outside China, moving away from its previous policy of non-interference in international affairs, according to Peter Dutton, director of the China Maritime Studies Institute at the U.S. Naval War College. "This is a new change. This is China behaving more actively in the international sphere to protect its interests beyond its borders than it had in the past," Dutton said. Previously, China would have insisted that such interventions "either [take place] in international waters, or have United Nations approval," he said.

Legal ambiguity

For years, the United States, Israel and Britain have dominated the global drone market, and the U.S. is known to have launched armed UAV strikes against foreign targets. But China has vastly improved its technology of late, unveiling large numbers of new drone models at recent air shows and modernizing its global navigation system, Beidou, to compete with the U.S. Global Positioning System as well as Russian and EU rivals.

The Obama administration has justified drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia by claiming those governments were "unwilling or unable to suppress the threat posed by the individual being targeted," according to a recently leaked Justice Department memo. The leaked "white paper" outlines legal arguments for using drone aircraft to target and kill American citizens abroad who are considered terrorists.

American University Law Professor Stephen Vladeck says Washington needs to be much more specific about its criteria for using armed UAVs, because China and other countries are paying close attention. "Part of the problem is that because the U.S. government is engaged in what seems like so many drone strikes, and has not exactly been forthcoming about the criteria it uses, it's possible for countries like China to point at the U.S. example and say, 'if they're doing it, so can we,'" Vladeck said.

Proliferation and demand
 
One big difference with China's capabilities with drones, at least for now, is they have relatively little global reach. The range on drones can be misleading as they are slow to target so general sortie with lots of loiter.

China can do things with drones in countries like Laos and Myanmar because they are right on their border, they aren't like the United States where a decision can be made to use drones over Mali and they'll be in the skies within days. The US has military bases all over the world and the power projection capabilities to create new forward base of operations to support drones very quickly in remote locations, this is somewhat unique among major world powers.

Not saying this won't change someday with China, but right now China's drone threat is pretty limited to countries around its borders and nothing is going to happen overnight to alter that.
 
The presence of military bases does not equate to threatening. We have military bases surrounding France too, does that mean we are threatening France?
 
I love it! Domestic drones will be GREAT for honing my "aerial shooting skills".

I doubt that the Obamanistas will use the big military drones to spy on us domestically.

Local law enforcement and the stateside military are going to use "mini-drones" that are the size of toy airplanes, and some that are the size of a common honey bee. Now THAT will be a challenge! Best bet would be a shotgun for those real little ones.
 
The presence of military bases does not equate to threatening. We have military bases surrounding France too, does that mean we are threatening France?

You seriously read what you post?

The US supplied and encouraged Iraq to attack Iran. When the smoke cleared many Iranians lie dead from chemical weapon tech supplied by the United States.

THEN the US rolled Iraq.

If you were the leader of Iran..what would you do?

Quit?

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You seriously read what you post?

The US supplied and encouraged Iraq to attack Iran. When the smoke cleared many Iranians lie dead from chemical weapon tech supplied by the United States.

THEN the US rolled Iraq.
Iran and Iraq had a history of border disputes going back decades, and Ayatollah Khomeini calling on arabs to overthrow the Iraqi government as well as Iran's backing of terrorist attacks inside Iraq and Saddam's desire to be the most powerful arab state had more to do with the Iran/Iraq was than any American influence.

The overwhelming majority of the Iraqi weaponry was Soviet and French, if Iran is to pick who to fear based on the arms employed by Iraq 30 years ago the US would be pretty low on the list.

If you were the leader of Iran..what would you do? Quit?
Quit what? The United States is not at war with Iran.

Iran, a rogue theocratic country that is sacrificing the welfare of their economy and people in pursuit of nuclear weapons, has been repeatedly sanctioned by the international community. If they quit pursuing nuclear weapons, sponsoring terrorists, and calling for the annihilation of other countries they wouldn't be isolated internationally and could pursue developing into the great nation they once were.
 

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