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The nihilist in me is enjoying the circus, I have to admit.Indeed. From one perspective it's the Democrats vs the Nazis and from the other it's the Repubs vs the socialists. In fact, our elections will likely be framed as such for some time. Grab your popcorn and beer … the show has already begun.It's looking more and more like the Dems will be running a pretty hardcore lefty, and that just solidifies Trump's position with the GOP -- as if that were even needed.12 months from the election and what are the options for the GOP ?
Will they stick with Trump ?
Do they have time to get behind an alternative ?
What price their credibility if they continue to back Donny ?
I know the cultists on here dont have a problem with anything he does but surely educated Americans realise that something is rotten and will vote accordingly ?
In the UK a delegation of Grandees would meet with the problem and tell them that the game was over. Is that likely,or possible, in the US ?
Of course they will. He is the incumbent President. Even if he is far from their ideal candidate, I doubt Warren and Biden come any closer to checking their boxes than Trump does. Besides, Trump's populism can land on a lot of people's soft spots is some very meaningful ways for them even if they otherwise detest him.
The ideological chasm of this election will be a few zillion miles wide.
.
The GOP is Trump's party. He is King of the Talk Radio Nutters. Anyone who bucks him is labeled a commie and banished.
The Democrats have completely lost their shit and are trying to out-promise, out-spend, out-Identity Politics and out-PC each other.
What a horrible, horrible choice we face in 2020.
.
What is the road map to that Bruce ?The GOP is Trump's party. He is King of the Talk Radio Nutters. Anyone who bucks him is labeled a commie and banished.
The Democrats have completely lost their shit and are trying to out-promise, out-spend, out-Identity Politics and out-PC each other.
What a horrible, horrible choice we face in 2020.
.
Again, I listen to CSpan and POTUS and have yet to hear them go on about how you are a commie!
Anyhoo, you are correct except Pence will be the Republican choice in 2020...
What is the road map to that Bruce ?The GOP is Trump's party. He is King of the Talk Radio Nutters. Anyone who bucks him is labeled a commie and banished.
The Democrats have completely lost their shit and are trying to out-promise, out-spend, out-Identity Politics and out-PC each other.
What a horrible, horrible choice we face in 2020.
.
Again, I listen to CSpan and POTUS and have yet to hear them go on about how you are a commie!
Anyhoo, you are correct except Pence will be the Republican choice in 2020...
The nihilist in me is enjoying the circus, I have to admit.Indeed. From one perspective it's the Democrats vs the Nazis and from the other it's the Repubs vs the socialists. In fact, our elections will likely be framed as such for some time. Grab your popcorn and beer … the show has already begun.It's looking more and more like the Dems will be running a pretty hardcore lefty, and that just solidifies Trump's position with the GOP -- as if that were even needed.12 months from the election and what are the options for the GOP ?
Will they stick with Trump ?
Do they have time to get behind an alternative ?
What price their credibility if they continue to back Donny ?
I know the cultists on here dont have a problem with anything he does but surely educated Americans realise that something is rotten and will vote accordingly ?
In the UK a delegation of Grandees would meet with the problem and tell them that the game was over. Is that likely,or possible, in the US ?
Of course they will. He is the incumbent President. Even if he is far from their ideal candidate, I doubt Warren and Biden come any closer to checking their boxes than Trump does. Besides, Trump's populism can land on a lot of people's soft spots is some very meaningful ways for them even if they otherwise detest him.
The ideological chasm of this election will be a few zillion miles wide.
.
The rest of me, not so much.
The nihilist in me is enjoying the circus, I have to admit.Indeed. From one perspective it's the Democrats vs the Nazis and from the other it's the Repubs vs the socialists. In fact, our elections will likely be framed as such for some time. Grab your popcorn and beer … the show has already begun.It's looking more and more like the Dems will be running a pretty hardcore lefty, and that just solidifies Trump's position with the GOP -- as if that were even needed.12 months from the election and what are the options for the GOP ?
Will they stick with Trump ?
Do they have time to get behind an alternative ?
What price their credibility if they continue to back Donny ?
I know the cultists on here dont have a problem with anything he does but surely educated Americans realise that something is rotten and will vote accordingly ?
In the UK a delegation of Grandees would meet with the problem and tell them that the game was over. Is that likely,or possible, in the US ?
Of course they will. He is the incumbent President. Even if he is far from their ideal candidate, I doubt Warren and Biden come any closer to checking their boxes than Trump does. Besides, Trump's populism can land on a lot of people's soft spots is some very meaningful ways for them even if they otherwise detest him.
The ideological chasm of this election will be a few zillion miles wide.
.
The rest of me, not so much.
Circus?
Please remember 2016, in case you forgot, it looked a lot like now, where Trump had no way to win, none, no way to 270 EC votes
Trump will be the 2016 nominee, impeached or not.What is the road map to that Bruce ?The GOP is Trump's party. He is King of the Talk Radio Nutters. Anyone who bucks him is labeled a commie and banished.
The Democrats have completely lost their shit and are trying to out-promise, out-spend, out-Identity Politics and out-PC each other.
What a horrible, horrible choice we face in 2020.
.
Again, I listen to CSpan and POTUS and have yet to hear them go on about how you are a commie!
Anyhoo, you are correct except Pence will be the Republican choice in 2020...
Trump being impeached by the House and Convicted and Removed by the Senate which would make Pence President.
Will he have a primary challenger?
Maybe, only if he pardons Trump...
Trump will be the 2016 nominee, impeached or not.What is the road map to that Bruce ?The GOP is Trump's party. He is King of the Talk Radio Nutters. Anyone who bucks him is labeled a commie and banished.
The Democrats have completely lost their shit and are trying to out-promise, out-spend, out-Identity Politics and out-PC each other.
What a horrible, horrible choice we face in 2020.
.
Again, I listen to CSpan and POTUS and have yet to hear them go on about how you are a commie!
Anyhoo, you are correct except Pence will be the Republican choice in 2020...
Trump being impeached by the House and Convicted and Removed by the Senate which would make Pence President.
Will he have a primary challenger?
Maybe, only if he pardons Trump...
He will never be removed, he has a 95% approval rating by Republican voters.
W-man is well-informed and usually a spot-on and rational conservative guy but I read your posts in this as simply a litany of what you consider to be Trump's failures thus far … not attacking this economy. Fortunately we are thriving & prospering - you choose to read the data differently - and Trump has stuck to his promise to end our role of policemen to the whole world.I'm not attacking the economy. But since this is my profession, and since I don't get my data and opinions from talk radio, I know what's actually happening.You’re actually attacking this economy? You’re dumber than a brick.His economy. His promises./—-/ Still waiting for the democRATs balanced budget so Trump can sign it. Any day now, any day...He exploded the deficit, adding to what hard working Americans, their children and their progeny will owe in the future.What exactly has Trump done to harm or make things worse for hard working Americans?
His trade war has thrown us into a manufacturing recession.
He has failed to produce even half of the ongoing GDP he promised.
He has failed to produce the health care plan that HE PROMISED would "take care of everybody" and that "we'd all love".
He has contributed to the toxicity in DC with his childish personal insults and name-calling, making it even less likely that initiatives that would help hard-working Americans directly or indirectly will come to fruition.
I know. Fake news. None of those are good examples. I know the game with nutters.
.
You nutters sure love to take credit for anything good and lay blame for anything bad.
Do you all get trained at the same place?
.
Therefore, your opinion of it, or me, is of zero interest to me.
.
I'm happy to go over all the good and all the not so good. I do analysis every single day, 365, as part of my profession.Mac and I don't much see eye-to-eye these days but read his posts in this thread to be overstated but not without merit. Our economic successes and failures are ours - we built that - but Mac lists onlyYou’re actually attacking this economy? You’re dumber than a brick.His economy. His promises./—-/ Still waiting for the democRATs balanced budget so Trump can sign it. Any day now, any day...He exploded the deficit, adding to what hard working Americans, their children and their progeny will owe in the future.What exactly has Trump done to harm or make things worse for hard working Americans?
His trade war has thrown us into a manufacturing recession.
He has failed to produce even half of the ongoing GDP he promised.
He has failed to produce the health care plan that HE PROMISED would "take care of everybody" and that "we'd all love".
He has contributed to the toxicity in DC with his childish personal insults and name-calling, making it even less likely that initiatives that would help hard-working Americans directly or indirectly will come to fruition.
I know. Fake news. None of those are good examples. I know the game with nutters.
.
You nutters sure love to take credit for anything good and lay blame for anything bad.
Do you all get trained at the same place?
.
W-man is well-informed and usually a spot-on and rational conservative guy but I read your posts in this as simply a litany of what you consider to be Trump's failures thus far … not attacking this economy. Fortunately we are thriving & prospering - you choose to read the data differently - and Trump has stuck to his promise to end our role of big bro to the whole world.I'm not attacking the economy. But since this is my profession, and since I don't get my data and opinions from talk radio, I know what's actually happening.You’re actually attacking this economy? You’re dumber than a brick.His economy. His promises./—-/ Still waiting for the democRATs balanced budget so Trump can sign it. Any day now, any day...He exploded the deficit, adding to what hard working Americans, their children and their progeny will owe in the future.
His trade war has thrown us into a manufacturing recession.
He has failed to produce even half of the ongoing GDP he promised.
He has failed to produce the health care plan that HE PROMISED would "take care of everybody" and that "we'd all love".
He has contributed to the toxicity in DC with his childish personal insults and name-calling, making it even less likely that initiatives that would help hard-working Americans directly or indirectly will come to fruition.
I know. Fake news. None of those are good examples. I know the game with nutters.
.
You nutters sure love to take credit for anything good and lay blame for anything bad.
Do you all get trained at the same place?
.
Therefore, your opinion of it, or me, is of zero interest to me.
.
Our economic successes & failures belong to no one man but are rather ours.
Yeah … despite what some have said, we did build this.
One need not have a drop of nihilist in 'em to enjoy the shit-show. Life has more than enough drudgery for most and our politics should not add to it.The nihilist in me is enjoying the circus, I have to admit.Indeed. From one perspective it's the Democrats vs the Nazis and from the other it's the Repubs vs the socialists. In fact, our elections will likely be framed as such for some time. Grab your popcorn and beer … the show has already begun.It's looking more and more like the Dems will be running a pretty hardcore lefty, and that just solidifies Trump's position with the GOP -- as if that were even needed.12 months from the election and what are the options for the GOP ?
Will they stick with Trump ?
Do they have time to get behind an alternative ?
What price their credibility if they continue to back Donny ?
I know the cultists on here dont have a problem with anything he does but surely educated Americans realise that something is rotten and will vote accordingly ?
In the UK a delegation of Grandees would meet with the problem and tell them that the game was over. Is that likely,or possible, in the US ?
Of course they will. He is the incumbent President. Even if he is far from their ideal candidate, I doubt Warren and Biden come any closer to checking their boxes than Trump does. Besides, Trump's populism can land on a lot of people's soft spots is some very meaningful ways for them even if they otherwise detest him.
The ideological chasm of this election will be a few zillion miles wide.
.
The rest of me, not so much.
12 months from the election and what are the options for the GOP ?
Will they stick with Trump ?
Do they have time to get behind an alternative ?
What price their credibility if they continue to back Donny ?
I know the cultists on here dont have a problem with anything he does but surely educated Americans realise that something is rotten and will vote accordingly ?
In the UK a delegation of Grandees would meet with the problem and tell them that the game was over. Is that likely,or possible, in the US ?
Trump will be the 2016 nominee, impeached or not.What is the road map to that Bruce ?The GOP is Trump's party. He is King of the Talk Radio Nutters. Anyone who bucks him is labeled a commie and banished.
The Democrats have completely lost their shit and are trying to out-promise, out-spend, out-Identity Politics and out-PC each other.
What a horrible, horrible choice we face in 2020.
.
Again, I listen to CSpan and POTUS and have yet to hear them go on about how you are a commie!
Anyhoo, you are correct except Pence will be the Republican choice in 2020...
Trump being impeached by the House and Convicted and Removed by the Senate which would make Pence President.
Will he have a primary challenger?
Maybe, only if he pardons Trump...
He will never be removed, he has a 95% approval rating by Republican voters.
He was the 2016 nominee...
We are talking about 2020 and approval ratings are wonderful but he has plenty Senate GOP members that hate his guts...
Cruz
Graham ( remember he was McCain boy )
Rubio
Collins
Romney
And
McConnell...
Also remember the Bush family are out to get your boy Trump...
The "alternatives" are a stone drunkard (Weld), a washed-up governor who bizarrely claimed to be hiking solo when he was playing footsie with his Argentine GF (Sanford), and a former congressman who a lot of people think was once a band member of the Eagles (Walsh).12 months from the election and what are the options for the GOP ?
Will they stick with Trump ?
Do they have time to get behind an alternative ?
What price their credibility if they continue to back Donny ?
I know the cultists on here dont have a problem with anything he does but surely educated Americans realise that something is rotten and will vote accordingly ?
In the UK a delegation of Grandees would meet with the problem and tell them that the game was over. Is that likely,or possible, in the US ?
Trump will be the 2016 nominee, impeached or not.What is the road map to that Bruce ?Again, I listen to CSpan and POTUS and have yet to hear them go on about how you are a commie!
Anyhoo, you are correct except Pence will be the Republican choice in 2020...
Trump being impeached by the House and Convicted and Removed by the Senate which would make Pence President.
Will he have a primary challenger?
Maybe, only if he pardons Trump...
He will never be removed, he has a 95% approval rating by Republican voters.
He was the 2016 nominee...
We are talking about 2020 and approval ratings are wonderful but he has plenty Senate GOP members that hate his guts...
Cruz
Graham ( remember he was McCain boy )
Rubio
Collins
Romney
And
McConnell...
Also remember the Bush family are out to get your boy Trump...
You forgot a few thousand Never-Trumpers. Trump still won in 2016.
List of Republicans who opposed the 2016 Donald Trump presidential campaign - Wikipedia
Trump has cut down that list of Never-Trump substantially. They see the coalition Trump has built. Instead of losing like McCain and Romney, Trump won a decisive EC victory. 2020 will be even more decisive than 2016 because we all see the "promises kept".
The MSM and progressive Left can whine and moan, but they have no candidate and no policies that most voters will support.
Again, Cruz, Graham, Rubio, Collins, Romney, and McConnell know that if they vote against Trump the 95% of the GOP that approve of Trump will kick them to the curb in their next primary. Its that simple. Support Trump or find another job.
He's not ignorant but I believe he misread your one-sided list as one-sided and in need of some balance. It wasn't his best moment but in a USMB world of shit, he tends to support his conservative POV with legit sources. How many here do that?I'm happy to go over all the good and all the not so good. I do analysis every single day, 365, as part of my profession.Mac and I don't much see eye-to-eye these days but read his posts in this thread to be overstated but not without merit. Our economic successes and failures are ours - we built that - but Mac lists onlyYou’re actually attacking this economy? You’re dumber than a brick.His economy. His promises./—-/ Still waiting for the democRATs balanced budget so Trump can sign it. Any day now, any day...He exploded the deficit, adding to what hard working Americans, their children and their progeny will owe in the future.
His trade war has thrown us into a manufacturing recession.
He has failed to produce even half of the ongoing GDP he promised.
He has failed to produce the health care plan that HE PROMISED would "take care of everybody" and that "we'd all love".
He has contributed to the toxicity in DC with his childish personal insults and name-calling, making it even less likely that initiatives that would help hard-working Americans directly or indirectly will come to fruition.
I know. Fake news. None of those are good examples. I know the game with nutters.
.
You nutters sure love to take credit for anything good and lay blame for anything bad.
Do you all get trained at the same place?
.
W-man is well-informed and usually a spot-on and rational conservative guy but I read your posts in this as simply a litany of what you consider to be Trump's failures thus far … not attacking this economy. Fortunately we are thriving & prospering - you choose to read the data differently - and Trump has stuck to his promise to end our role of big bro to the whole world.I'm not attacking the economy. But since this is my profession, and since I don't get my data and opinions from talk radio, I know what's actually happening.You’re actually attacking this economy? You’re dumber than a brick.His economy. His promises./—-/ Still waiting for the democRATs balanced budget so Trump can sign it. Any day now, any day...
You nutters sure love to take credit for anything good and lay blame for anything bad.
Do you all get trained at the same place?
.
Therefore, your opinion of it, or me, is of zero interest to me.
.
Our economic successes & failures belong to no one man but are rather ours.
Yeah … despite what some have said, we did build this.
But I just don't have the patience for people who are aggressively ignorant. Not only is it a waste of time, it's a little depressing.
.
We disagree there. I know what the Right is fed by talk radio, since I listen fairly regularly. In the many conversations I've had with Trumpsters, one thing I'm absolutely sure about is that have been badly mal-informed not only about the present economy, but the Meltdown and other important financial topics as well.He's not ignorant but I believe he misread your one-sided list as one-sided and in need of some balance. It wasn't his best moment but in a USMB world of shit, he tends to support his conservative POV with legit sources. How many here do that?I'm happy to go over all the good and all the not so good. I do analysis every single day, 365, as part of my profession.Mac and I don't much see eye-to-eye these days but read his posts in this thread to be overstated but not without merit. Our economic successes and failures are ours - we built that - but Mac lists onlyYou’re actually attacking this economy? You’re dumber than a brick.His economy. His promises./—-/ Still waiting for the democRATs balanced budget so Trump can sign it. Any day now, any day...
You nutters sure love to take credit for anything good and lay blame for anything bad.
Do you all get trained at the same place?
.
W-man is well-informed and usually a spot-on and rational conservative guy but I read your posts in this as simply a litany of what you consider to be Trump's failures thus far … not attacking this economy. Fortunately we are thriving & prospering - you choose to read the data differently - and Trump has stuck to his promise to end our role of big bro to the whole world.I'm not attacking the economy. But since this is my profession, and since I don't get my data and opinions from talk radio, I know what's actually happening.You’re actually attacking this economy? You’re dumber than a brick.His economy. His promises.
You nutters sure love to take credit for anything good and lay blame for anything bad.
Do you all get trained at the same place?
.
Therefore, your opinion of it, or me, is of zero interest to me.
.
Our economic successes & failures belong to no one man but are rather ours.
Yeah … despite what some have said, we did build this.
But I just don't have the patience for people who are aggressively ignorant. Not only is it a waste of time, it's a little depressing.
.
You may not enjoy or appreciate his one-sided opinions but they are not ignorant.
Trump will be the 2016 nominee, impeached or not.What is the road map to that Bruce ?
Trump being impeached by the House and Convicted and Removed by the Senate which would make Pence President.
Will he have a primary challenger?
Maybe, only if he pardons Trump...
He will never be removed, he has a 95% approval rating by Republican voters.
He was the 2016 nominee...
We are talking about 2020 and approval ratings are wonderful but he has plenty Senate GOP members that hate his guts...
Cruz
Graham ( remember he was McCain boy )
Rubio
Collins
Romney
And
McConnell...
Also remember the Bush family are out to get your boy Trump...
You forgot a few thousand Never-Trumpers. Trump still won in 2016.
List of Republicans who opposed the 2016 Donald Trump presidential campaign - Wikipedia
Trump has cut down that list of Never-Trump substantially. They see the coalition Trump has built. Instead of losing like McCain and Romney, Trump won a decisive EC victory. 2020 will be even more decisive than 2016 because we all see the "promises kept".
The MSM and progressive Left can whine and moan, but they have no candidate and no policies that most voters will support.
Again, Cruz, Graham, Rubio, Collins, Romney, and McConnell know that if they vote against Trump the 95% of the GOP that approve of Trump will kick them to the curb in their next primary. Its that simple. Support Trump or find another job.
Yeah, here is the thing the same GOP that support Trump once supported the Iraq Invasion that Trump was against...
So, ya know you guys are easily manipulated as can be...
Let Rush turn against Trump and Hannity and Levin follow afterwards and all of you in that 95% will say " Trump who? "...
Also let remember you need to focus on the Swing voter and not just the GOP base.
Yes, it is wonderful to have your base cemented but without the swing voter you lose, well like the Democrats did in 2016 in key States like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin...
So let me be clear those like Romney are focusing on polls and how independents are swaying and not the base...
Nah … the NeverTrumpers are still there and still seething but Trump has held serve with his 2016 supporters and even added to them. When the dust settles the Democrat Socialist Party and its chosen one will have to explain their platform - open borders, gun-confiscation, abortion, socialism, and impeachment-in-lieu-of-election-victories - or try to disavow it.Trump will be the 2016 nominee, impeached or not.What is the road map to that Bruce ?Again, I listen to CSpan and POTUS and have yet to hear them go on about how you are a commie!
Anyhoo, you are correct except Pence will be the Republican choice in 2020...
Trump being impeached by the House and Convicted and Removed by the Senate which would make Pence President.
Will he have a primary challenger?
Maybe, only if he pardons Trump...
He will never be removed, he has a 95% approval rating by Republican voters.
He was the 2016 nominee...
We are talking about 2020 and approval ratings are wonderful but he has plenty Senate GOP members that hate his guts...
Cruz
Graham ( remember he was McCain boy )
Rubio
Collins
Romney
And
McConnell...
Also remember the Bush family are out to get your boy Trump...
You forgot a few thousand Never-Trumpers. Trump still won in 2016.
List of Republicans who opposed the 2016 Donald Trump presidential campaign - Wikipedia
Trump has cut down that list of Never-Trumpers substantially. They see the coalition Trump has built. Instead of losing like McCain and Romney, Trump won a decisive EC victory. 2020 will be even more decisive than 2016 because we all see the "promises kept".
The MSM and progressive Left can whine and moan, but they have no candidate and no policies that most voters will support.
Again, Cruz, Graham, Rubio, Collins, Romney, and McConnell know that if they vote against Trump the 95% of the GOP that approve of Trump will kick them to the curb in their next primary. Its that simple. Support Trump or find another job.
Exactly right!Nah … the NeverTrumpers are still there and still seething but Trump has held serve with his 2016 supporters and even added to them. When the dust settles the Democrat Socialist Party and its chosen one will have to explain their platform - open borders, gun-confiscation, abortion, socialism, and impeachment-in-lieu-of-election-victories - or try to disavow it.Trump will be the 2016 nominee, impeached or not.What is the road map to that Bruce ?
Trump being impeached by the House and Convicted and Removed by the Senate which would make Pence President.
Will he have a primary challenger?
Maybe, only if he pardons Trump...
He will never be removed, he has a 95% approval rating by Republican voters.
He was the 2016 nominee...
We are talking about 2020 and approval ratings are wonderful but he has plenty Senate GOP members that hate his guts...
Cruz
Graham ( remember he was McCain boy )
Rubio
Collins
Romney
And
McConnell...
Also remember the Bush family are out to get your boy Trump...
You forgot a few thousand Never-Trumpers. Trump still won in 2016.
List of Republicans who opposed the 2016 Donald Trump presidential campaign - Wikipedia
Trump has cut down that list of Never-Trumpers substantially. They see the coalition Trump has built. Instead of losing like McCain and Romney, Trump won a decisive EC victory. 2020 will be even more decisive than 2016 because we all see the "promises kept".
The MSM and progressive Left can whine and moan, but they have no candidate and no policies that most voters will support.
Again, Cruz, Graham, Rubio, Collins, Romney, and McConnell know that if they vote against Trump the 95% of the GOP that approve of Trump will kick them to the curb in their next primary. Its that simple. Support Trump or find another job.
