12 years of Bush Tax Cuts, Bailouts, Quantitative Easing;Where are the jobs?

[Freewill]

For 12 years the "job creators" got every single thing they wanted. Low taxes, ease on regulations, changes in overtime rules, bailouts, quantitative easing..and what do we have?

Stagnant wages, high unemployment, and..

A record number of billionaires!

Why is that?

Going to score the verbal gymnastics used to explain it.

So let's take their wealth is that your answer?

So the Iraq war ended over a year ago, where is all the money that was contributing to the debt? Perfect example of how giving the government more money does not result in reduced spending, just the opposite.

 

[Oldstyle]

Interesting I've always considered a healthy sign when we produce A record number of billionaires!

The more rich the better

...you are aware that there's a finite amount of wealth which means the more billionares, the more people in the middle and bottom are getting fucked.

There is a finite amount of wealth? LOL That comment right there, Balls explains why liberals like yourself never quite "get" economics. There is no limit on wealth. It's not a pie that is the same size and is divided differently...it can be a larger or a smaller pie depending on fiscal policies.

Just as a general rule? When economies go in the shitter, wealthy people still have the cash to invest in things that the "middle and bottom" can't get financing for. What is a devastating time for the lower classes is usually a boon for the very wealthy.

This lagging recovery led by Barack Obama isn't hurting the wealthy...it's hurting the lower classes. Raising taxes on the wealthy won't change that.

 

[zeke]

For 12 years the "job creators" got every single thing they wanted. Low taxes, ease on regulations, changes in overtime rules, bailouts, quantitative easing..and what do we have?

Stagnant wages, high unemployment, and..

A record number of billionaires!

Why is that?

Going to score the verbal gymnastics used to explain it.

A better question might be...it's been four years of Obama...where is the recovery?

YOU think that is a better question. Because you dumb lovers of the ultra rich are to fuking stupid to ask the logical question; you rich got your tax cuts, where are the jobs?

How come you are not smart enough to ask that question. Partisan make you stupid?
How many years the tax cuts been in place? Longer than Obama's been President you say.

Then why in the fuk you blaming Obama. He is not the ultra rich job creator. He kept the taxes low on the "job creators." wtf happened?

You just seem fuking confused. But I am not surprised.

 

[Freewill]

4 years of obama and no jobs

23 million jobless

and the hacks still have to blame Bush

Un
Fucking
Real

What a fuking idiot you are. Don't you read the rethug talking points? The government does not create jobs. repugs tell this all the time. Except for defense industry jobs, but we won't include them. Cause rethugs love defense jobs.

So the tax cuts for the ultra wealthy were sold as cuts for the job creators. Remeber? Us peons got those little measly 600 dollar checks so we wouldn't bitch that the wealthy got hundreds of thousands. Be that as it may.

Where are the fuking jobs the ultra wealthy were creating after theygot what they wanted?

If you don't know, stfu.

The government is like fertilizer, it doesn't make the plants grow it allows them to grow. Unfortunately this administration is more like weed killer. But that is only going by the facts and not conjecture or partisanship.

 

[ba1614]

Interesting I've always considered a healthy sign when we produce A record number of billionaires!

The more rich the better

...you are aware that there's a finite amount of wealth which means the more billionares, the more people in the middle and bottom are getting fucked.

There is a finite amount of wealth? LOL That comment right there, Balls explains why liberals like yourself never quite "get" economics. There is no limit on wealth. It's not a pie that is the same size and is divided differently...it can be a larger or a smaller pie depending on fiscal policies.

Just as a general rule? When economies go in the shitter, wealthy people still have the cash to invest in things that the "middle and bottom" can't get financing for. What is a devastating time for the lower classes is usually a boon for the very wealthy.

This lagging recovery led by Barack Obama isn't hurting the wealthy...it's hurting the lower classes. Raising taxes on the wealthy won't change that.

No, taxing the rich will do nothing but give progressives a gleeful couple days that "they won" and showed the evil rich.
Then they'll keep on the Booooooooooosh did it bullshit and excuse obummers continued incompetence away when the tax increase does NOTHING.

 

[Freewill]

I will admit, it is nice for once to see Sallow admit to how big a failure this adminstration has been. Congrats.

 

[Seawytch]

Study: Tax Cuts for the Rich Don't Spur Growth

Which is why the GOP tried to bury the study.

 

[Oldstyle]

For 12 years the "job creators" got every single thing they wanted. Low taxes, ease on regulations, changes in overtime rules, bailouts, quantitative easing..and what do we have?

Stagnant wages, high unemployment, and..

A record number of billionaires!

Why is that?

Going to score the verbal gymnastics used to explain it.

A better question might be...it's been four years of Obama...where is the recovery?

YOU think that is a better question. Because you dumb lovers of the ultra rich are to fuking stupid to ask the logical question; you rich got your tax cuts, where are the jobs?

How come you are not smart enough to ask that question. Partisan make you stupid?
How many years the tax cuts been in place? Longer than Obama's been President you say.

Then why in the fuk you blaming Obama. He is not the ultra rich job creator. He kept the taxes low on the "job creators." wtf happened?

You just seem fuking confused. But I am not surprised.

Obama retained the Bush tax cuts because someone intelligent about economics (I presume it was someone brought in from outside his regular group of advisers) explained to him that to let them expire would hurt the economy at a time when economic growth was already anemic at best.

The reason the economy has not grown over the last four years in uncertainty about how Obama's policies would effect businesses. ObamaCare and proposed legislation on Cap & Trade, Card Check and EPA regulations have kept businesses guessing as to what the future holds. If you understood business then you'd understand that business leaders are always planning for what's coming several years down the road, trying to anticipate what current policy will do in the future.

 

[zeke]

4 years of obama and no jobs

23 million jobless

and the hacks still have to blame Bush

Un
Fucking
Real

What a fuking idiot you are. Don't you read the rethug talking points? The government does not create jobs. repugs tell this all the time. Except for defense industry jobs, but we won't include them. Cause rethugs love defense jobs.

So the tax cuts for the ultra wealthy were sold as cuts for the job creators. Remeber? Us peons got those little measly 600 dollar checks so we wouldn't bitch that the wealthy got hundreds of thousands. Be that as it may.

Where are the fuking jobs the ultra wealthy were creating after theygot what they wanted?

If you don't know, stfu.

The government is like fertilizer, it doesn't make the plants grow it allows them to grow. Unfortunately this administration is more like weed killer. But that is only going by the facts and not conjecture or partisanship.

No bub. The "fertilizer" aka "bull shit" that is being spread in being spread by......you.

You should have just said you don't know why the ultra rich haven't "created" all those jobs we were promised.

I remember no one in the Bush admin qualifying the tax cuts with statments that there would have to be a bunch of bull shit spread around BEFORE the job creators could do their job creation "thing".

The only people that beneited from the huge tax cuts for the ultra wealthy were the ultra wealty.

We were sold a bunch of bull shit. Guess that's the "fertilizer" you were speaking of.

 

[Seawytch]

A better question might be...it's been four years of Obama...where is the recovery?

YOU think that is a better question. Because you dumb lovers of the ultra rich are to fuking stupid to ask the logical question; you rich got your tax cuts, where are the jobs?

How come you are not smart enough to ask that question. Partisan make you stupid?
How many years the tax cuts been in place? Longer than Obama's been President you say.

Then why in the fuk you blaming Obama. He is not the ultra rich job creator. He kept the taxes low on the "job creators." wtf happened?

You just seem fuking confused. But I am not surprised.

Obama retained the Bush tax cuts because someone intelligent about economics (I presume it was someone brought in from outside his regular group of advisers) explained to him that to let them expire would hurt the economy at a time when economic growth was already anemic at best.

The reason the economy has not grown over the last four years in uncertainty about how Obama's policies would effect businesses. ObamaCare and proposed legislation on Cap & Trade, Card Check and EPA regulations have kept businesses guessing as to what the future holds. If you understood business then you'd understand that business leaders are always planning for what's coming several years down the road, trying to anticipate what current policy will do in the future.

Bullshit. The GOP held unemployment hostage to get those tax cuts extended.

Unemployment benefits: not until Bush tax cuts pass, Senate GOP says

 

[Sallow]

I'm too old for that, nam was where I done my duty as a young man.

And you paid for your own gear..and got there on your own, right?

No, but I have many many times over in the 30yrs since with all the tax I've paid.

Give this man a cigar.

And maybe you should look around and see that people are paying for those services they get.

But those on the top..are basically using those very same services..while fleecing those who are paying for it.

 

[zeke]

A better question might be...it's been four years of Obama...where is the recovery?

YOU think that is a better question. Because you dumb lovers of the ultra rich are to fuking stupid to ask the logical question; you rich got your tax cuts, where are the jobs?

How come you are not smart enough to ask that question. Partisan make you stupid?
How many years the tax cuts been in place? Longer than Obama's been President you say.

Then why in the fuk you blaming Obama. He is not the ultra rich job creator. He kept the taxes low on the "job creators." wtf happened?

You just seem fuking confused. But I am not surprised.

Obama retained the Bush tax cuts because someone intelligent about economics (I presume it was someone brought in from outside his regular group of advisers) explained to him that to let them expire would hurt the economy at a time when economic growth was already anemic at best.

The reason the economy has not grown over the last four years in uncertainty about how Obama's policies would effect businesses. ObamaCare and proposed legislation on Cap & Trade, Card Check and EPA regulations have kept businesses guessing as to what the future holds. If you understood business then you'd understand that business leaders are always planning for what's coming several years down the road, trying to anticipate what current policy will do in the future.

Oh fuking horseshit. How many years were the ultra rich tax cuts in place while George Bush was President? How many jobs were being created at the end of the George Bush presidency? How many? None you say. In fact, jobs were being lost at a termendous pace.
You remember that? Or are you to partisan to remember recent history?

Or maybe you want to claim the all the money the ultra rich have allow them to see into the future, and in 2003 when they got their second big tax cut, they looked to the future, saw Obama being elected and decided right then and there to not create all those jobs they promised. Is that your story? It all Obamas fault.

 

[Sallow]

For 12 years the "job creators" got every single thing they wanted. Low taxes, ease on regulations, changes in overtime rules, bailouts, quantitative easing..and what do we have?

Stagnant wages, high unemployment, and..

A record number of billionaires!

Why is that?

Going to score the verbal gymnastics used to explain it.

So let's take their wealth is that your answer?

So the Iraq war ended over a year ago, where is all the money that was contributing to the debt? Perfect example of how giving the government more money does not result in reduced spending, just the opposite.

Dude.

The Iraq war was done on the credit card.

We are just NOW paying for it.

 

[Oldstyle]

YOU think that is a better question. Because you dumb lovers of the ultra rich are to fuking stupid to ask the logical question; you rich got your tax cuts, where are the jobs?

How come you are not smart enough to ask that question. Partisan make you stupid?
How many years the tax cuts been in place? Longer than Obama's been President you say.

Then why in the fuk you blaming Obama. He is not the ultra rich job creator. He kept the taxes low on the "job creators." wtf happened?

You just seem fuking confused. But I am not surprised.

Obama retained the Bush tax cuts because someone intelligent about economics (I presume it was someone brought in from outside his regular group of advisers) explained to him that to let them expire would hurt the economy at a time when economic growth was already anemic at best.

The reason the economy has not grown over the last four years in uncertainty about how Obama's policies would effect businesses. ObamaCare and proposed legislation on Cap & Trade, Card Check and EPA regulations have kept businesses guessing as to what the future holds. If you understood business then you'd understand that business leaders are always planning for what's coming several years down the road, trying to anticipate what current policy will do in the future.

Bullshit. The GOP held unemployment hostage to get those tax cuts extended.

Unemployment benefits: not until Bush tax cuts pass, Senate GOP says

That's the "excuse" that the Obama folks gave to you progressives for why they had to extend the Bush tax cuts, Seawytch! The reality was that Obama had no choice but to extend them because the economy was not growing and letting the tax cuts expire would have slid us right back into another recession. At the time the Democrats had sizable majorities in both the House and Senate. Or have you forgotten that?

 

[Truthseeker420]

You can't fix 32 years of Reaganomics in 4 years,especially with a do nothing Congress.

 

[Truthseeker420]

 

[zeke]

YOU think that is a better question. Because you dumb lovers of the ultra rich are to fuking stupid to ask the logical question; you rich got your tax cuts, where are the jobs?

How come you are not smart enough to ask that question. Partisan make you stupid?
How many years the tax cuts been in place? Longer than Obama's been President you say.

Then why in the fuk you blaming Obama. He is not the ultra rich job creator. He kept the taxes low on the "job creators." wtf happened?

You just seem fuking confused. But I am not surprised.

Obama retained the Bush tax cuts because someone intelligent about economics (I presume it was someone brought in from outside his regular group of advisers) explained to him that to let them expire would hurt the economy at a time when economic growth was already anemic at best.

The reason the economy has not grown over the last four years in uncertainty about how Obama's policies would effect businesses. ObamaCare and proposed legislation on Cap & Trade, Card Check and EPA regulations have kept businesses guessing as to what the future holds. If you understood business then you'd understand that business leaders are always planning for what's coming several years down the road, trying to anticipate what current policy will do in the future.

Oh fuking horseshit. How many years were the ultra rich tax cuts in place while George Bush was President? How many jobs were being created at the end of the George Bush presidency? How many? None you say. In fact, jobs were being lost at a termendous pace.
You remember that? Or are you to partisan to remember recent history?

Or maybe you want to claim the all the money the ultra rich have allow them to see into the future, and in 2003 when they got their second big tax cut, they looked to the future, saw Obama being elected and decided right then and there to not create all those jobs they promised. Is that your story? It all Obamas fault.

btw, Obama kept the Bush cuts because he got backed into a corner and didn't have the balls to let them expire. Like keeping them in place for the ultra rich did any fuking good.
Except for the ultra rich.

Where are the jobs being created by the ultra wealthy with their tax cuts?

 

[Oldstyle]

YOU think that is a better question. Because you dumb lovers of the ultra rich are to fuking stupid to ask the logical question; you rich got your tax cuts, where are the jobs?

How come you are not smart enough to ask that question. Partisan make you stupid?
How many years the tax cuts been in place? Longer than Obama's been President you say.

Then why in the fuk you blaming Obama. He is not the ultra rich job creator. He kept the taxes low on the "job creators." wtf happened?

You just seem fuking confused. But I am not surprised.

Obama retained the Bush tax cuts because someone intelligent about economics (I presume it was someone brought in from outside his regular group of advisers) explained to him that to let them expire would hurt the economy at a time when economic growth was already anemic at best.

The reason the economy has not grown over the last four years in uncertainty about how Obama's policies would effect businesses. ObamaCare and proposed legislation on Cap & Trade, Card Check and EPA regulations have kept businesses guessing as to what the future holds. If you understood business then you'd understand that business leaders are always planning for what's coming several years down the road, trying to anticipate what current policy will do in the future.

Oh fuking horseshit. How many years were the ultra rich tax cuts in place while George Bush was President? How many jobs were being created at the end of the George Bush presidency? How many? None you say. In fact, jobs were being lost at a termendous pace.
You remember that? Or are you to partisan to remember recent history?

Or maybe you want to claim the all the money the ultra rich have allow them to see into the future, and in 2003 when they got their second big tax cut, they looked to the future, saw Obama being elected and decided right then and there to not create all those jobs they promised. Is that your story? It all Obamas fault.

Obviously economics isn't your "forte", Zeke. The Bush tax cuts had nothing to do with the economic collapse. That was brought about by a housing bubble that was allowed to grow at way too rapid a rate because of credit being extended (through governmental policy) to people that never would have qualified for it in the past. Jobs were being created during the Bush two terms at a far greater rate than they are now, his numbers for job creation look terrible because of what happened in the last year of his second term. If you'll remember it was Bush that was calling on Congress to rein in the lending policies of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac prior to the housing bubble collapse and it was people like Barney Frank who were assuring us that everything was hunky dory with both those institutions.

 

[Oldstyle]

Obama retained the Bush tax cuts because someone intelligent about economics (I presume it was someone brought in from outside his regular group of advisers) explained to him that to let them expire would hurt the economy at a time when economic growth was already anemic at best.

The reason the economy has not grown over the last four years in uncertainty about how Obama's policies would effect businesses. ObamaCare and proposed legislation on Cap & Trade, Card Check and EPA regulations have kept businesses guessing as to what the future holds. If you understood business then you'd understand that business leaders are always planning for what's coming several years down the road, trying to anticipate what current policy will do in the future.

Oh fuking horseshit. How many years were the ultra rich tax cuts in place while George Bush was President? How many jobs were being created at the end of the George Bush presidency? How many? None you say. In fact, jobs were being lost at a termendous pace.
You remember that? Or are you to partisan to remember recent history?

Or maybe you want to claim the all the money the ultra rich have allow them to see into the future, and in 2003 when they got their second big tax cut, they looked to the future, saw Obama being elected and decided right then and there to not create all those jobs they promised. Is that your story? It all Obamas fault.

btw, Obama kept the Bush cuts because he got backed into a corner and didn't have the balls to let them expire. Like keeping them in place for the ultra rich did any fuking good.
Except for the ultra rich.

Where are the jobs being created by the ultra wealthy with their tax cuts?

Obama didn't have the "balls" to let the tax cuts expire because he finally understood that doing so would hurt an already weak economy and probably cost him his second term.

Jobs aren't being created now because the wealthy are already moving their capital into tax havens to keep it from being taxed. It's what they ALWAYS do when idiots like you come looking to take it away from them. Duh?

 

[Freewill]

You can't fix 32 years of Reaganomics in 4 years,especially with a do nothing Congress.

What is wrong with you people? Bush wasn't enough of an excuse for the failure in chief you need now to blame Reagan? Reagan started the largest and longest economic peacetime expansion in history. The one WJC road to fame, or wasn't he really president? Reagan was 30 years ago give it up.

Now the chickens are coming home to roost just as was predicted back when WJC was signing the "free" trade agreements. The economic disaster was predicted and has come true and we want to blame anyone but the architect. Really quite amazing the denial of the liberal left.