11 myths of iraqi war

Said1 said:
I think he forgot "sidetracking by arguing semantics".

That's my personal fav.

Or when backed into a corner spew liberal talking points (cliched generalizations) such as "Tax cuts for the wealthy" that one is always new and fresh :blah2:
 
Bonnie said:
Or when backed into a corner spew liberal talking points (cliched generalizations) such as "Tax cuts for the wealthy" that one is always new and fresh :blah2:


I know this is off topic, but just so funny and probably the best moonbat reply I've ever recieved, I just had to share it.

Said1
Hey, its just a distraction to stick that in there isn't it? You do the work of the Elites without knowing it - just use their tactics and things go downhill from there.
Distraction is a favorite tactic of the Reptile Elites, here it is a distraction from the question

That was in response to something I added as an "aside" and delt with sustainable development.....which I thought they were in opposition of anyway???? :laugh:
 
Said1 said:
I know this is off topic, but just so funny and probably the best moonbat reply I've ever recieved, I just had to share it.



That was in response to something I added as an "aside" and delt with sustainable development.....which I thought they were in opposition of anyway???? :laugh:

For example.. :laugh:
 
Said1 said:
That's why the reply was so funny. I guess they're so enamoured by you know who, they forgot about the environment. :D

See now an easy distraction has benefits........... :crutch:
 
Well, for someone who loves to argue for arguements sake, and wants to post volumnous amounts of responses, SpidermanTuba certainly picked the right (errr LEFT) side to argue from, defending error riddled ideas will keep one much more busy.

Funny, that he picks on the terms "picks" (referring to electing the president) and "rules" when referring to how the president "presides" over the country, which seems to be arguing the concepts from both ends of the wick.

One who rules a country is generally one who isnt "picked",,so which is it Tuba, was our president not "picked" or does he not "rule"?

I know the magnificence of the english language will allow you to create your very own hip hop dance to this question, and we shall trudge forward to that dark day when, yes, we have one post fill up an entire page, but let me clue you in, when a post gets tooo long , nobody reads the whole thing, so unless you are simply trying to increase your typing grade in high school typing 101, I suggest you shorten your posts.

NOW, ONTO ANOTHER TOPIC, what will you be saying in defense of your anti Iraqi FREEDOM stance in four years from now when we are gone, Iraq is a functioning democracy, and the middle east transformation continues to take hold?

BEHOLD:

"The referendum result again demonstrates that American policy- and opinion-makers are more pessimistic than are Iraqis. Part of the problem is that Pentagon officials and journalists alike chart Iraq's success through misguided metrics. Counting car bombs does not demonstrate progress or lack thereof in Iraq. Objective indicators show that Iraqis have confidence that did not exist prior to liberation.
According to an Aug. 16, 2002, commentary in the Guardian--a British newspaper that often opposes U.S. foreign policy--one in six Iraqis had fled their country under Saddam. Millions left because of war, dictatorship and sanctions. Today, several hundred thousand have returned; only the Christians still leave. If Iraq were as chaotic as the media implies, it would export refugees, not resettle them.

Other indicators suggest Iraqis have confidence in their future. The Iraqi dinar, freely traded in international currency markets, is stable.

When people fear for their future, they invest in gold; jewelry and coins can be sewn into clothes and smuggled out of the country. When people feel confident about the future, they buy real estate. Property prices have skyrocketed across Iraq. Decrepit houses in Sadr City, a Shiite slum on the outskirts of Baghdad, can easily cost $45,000. Houses in upper-middle-class districts of Mansour and Karrada can cost more than 20 times that. Restaurant owners spend $50,000 on top-of-the-line generators to keep open despite the frequent blackouts. In September 2005, there were 40 buildings nine stories or higher under construction in the Kurdish city of Sulaymani. Five years ago, there were none. Iraqis would not spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on real estate if they weren't confident that the law would protect their investment.

Iraqis now see the fruit of foreign investment. A year ago in Baghdad, Iraqis drank water and soft drinks imported from neighboring countries. Now they drink water bottled in plants scattered across Iraq. When I visited a Baghdad computer shop last spring, my hosts handed me a can of Pepsi. An Arabic banner across the can announced, "The only soft drink manufactured in Iraq." In August, a Coca-Cola executive in Istanbul told me their Baghdad operation is not far behind. Turkish investors in partnership with local Iraqis have built modern hotels in Basra.

Cameras and reporters do not lie, but they do not always give a full perspective. Political brinkmanship devoid of context breeds panic. Beheadings and blood sell copy, but do not accurately reflect Iraq. Political milestones give a glimpse of the often-unreported determination that Iraqis and longtime visitors see daily. Bombings and body bags are tragic. But they do not reflect failure. Rather, they represent the sacrifice that both Iraqis and Americans have made for security and democracy. The referendum, refugee return, real estate and investment show much more accurately--and objectively--Iraq's slow but steady progress."

Michael Rubin, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, is editor of the Middle East Quarterly.
 
SpidermanTuba said:
If you think that not speaking out against a war you don't agree with is a "reasonable limit" on free speech - like I said, build a time machine, go back to 1939, and join Hitler's SS.




Actually, while I would be charged with verbal assault, you would be charged with assault and battery on me. Soooooo...... what's your point?



If supporting the soldiers means I need to keep my mouth shut when the President is sending them off to die for his political purposes - well, then perhaps you should build that time machine, head back to 1939.



I've never said one bad word about them.



So do I have a right to speak out against wars I don't agree with or not? Make up your damn mind, you seem to be waffling back and forth. And if I do have that right - why would a Marine who risked his own life fighting for my right to have it beat me up for exercising it?

I have gotten into debates with a couple of Marines about this war. And with both we argued alot and shouted at each other - but neither of them even looked for a second like they were going to assault me. I think you give our Marines less credit than they deserve, they are perfectly capable of tolerating opposing views without being moved to break the law. They aren't the Nazi SS soldiers you wish they were - they are killers in combat and gentlemen outside of combat.


Spidey, I'm wondering why you never answered my posts of Bush's speeches? You have all the answers right? Blowhard. You let 2 pages here go without a post, hoping that it would be forgotten.
 
Kathianne said:
Spidey, I'm wondering why you never answered my posts of Bush's speeches? You have all the answers right? Blowhard. You let 2 pages here go without a post, hoping that it would be forgotten.

He's got a few unanswered questions in a few threads that he's joping will "go away."
 
Kathianne said:
Spidey, I'm wondering why you never answered my posts of Bush's speeches? You have all the answers right? Blowhard. You let 2 pages here go without a post, hoping that it would be forgotten.

spidey is in university.....spidey has all the answers but knows none of the questions.....spidey is full of shit but thinks he is funny....
 

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