1,470 paid no taxes

[highway234]

Were already laugh at you so it should even out.

we're already laugh at you? english much, gunboy? or has the ringing in your ears from all those guns rattled your noggin?

 

[Ernie S.]

IRS: 1,470 millionaires paid no income tax in '09 - On Deadline - USATODAY.com


That merans they are not helping their country at a time of need.

What kind of American doesnt help their country in a time of great need?

What you fail to mention is that 26.5 million "taxpayers" received refunds from the IRS larger than what had been deducted from their pay, thus becoming tax collectors, rather than tax payers. The average net EITC amount was $2,216. This data is also from 2009.
If we pick a number of, say $500,000 each that you feel 1500 millionaires should have paid, we're looking at a loss of $750 million.
We paid out nearly 58.7 BILLION to people who did little or nothing for society.
What kind of American doesn't help their country in a time of great need?

 

[Avorysuds]

how much more taxes? i said before i think the clinton rates might be a good start. i can't give you an exact figure because i'm not an economist. but i find this assertion that tax figures inevitably lead to capital flight to be befuddling. i mean, is this always true, regardless of the legacy tax level? the wealthy are sitting on income and not spending it. that's not always true, but it's true at the moment. meanwhile, the middle class is tapped out and we're running enormous deficits. i keep hearing spending cuts, spending cuts, but spending cuts suppress demand and don't do anything to create jobs. the bush tax cuts were supposed to sunset several years ago. do we just keep those cuts going indefinitely, and do nothing to increase demand? i honestly don't get what you guys are prescribing to fix this problem.

So you have no answer other than "Where Clinton had them." Not use some fucking context like we spend a WHOLE lot more than Clinton was, a LOT more.

right, on wars, tax cuts and bailouts. round and round we go.

again. if you know of something obama's spending money on that's a liberal priority, please tell me. if you have a prescription for fixing this problem other than cutting medicare and social security, please let me know. if by "spending cuts" you mean ending the wars and doing something about the fact we spend as much on the military as the rest of the world combined, then you've got my vote. but something tells me when you say "spending cuts," you're talking about cutting programs people rely on. and that's dumb in a recession, because it suppresses demand.

Well you're new here so I'll be nice.

I'm a Ron Paul Republican, in fact it would seem most people on these boards that are conservative are, not all but more than are not. That means Wars/Bases all gone. Also Rand Paul put up a budget to balance the budget in 5 years that leaves us with a 19billion surplus and he never touched MC/MC/SS.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0vDNmE_M7E]‪03/17/11: Sen. Rand Paul Introduces Five-Year Balanced Budget Plan‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

I support cuts to things like the DOE and so on yes, but SS/MC/MC need to be looked at and changed before they destroy the country, and they will.

 

[Jarhead]

you're right. maybe it's liberals who want michael moore dead.

You alleged "tons of far right wing loons."

You failed to provide proof to back that rediculous claim you dreamed up in the windmills of your mind.

You're a miserable failure, and an asswipe.

Carry on.

you know what the funny thing is? i don't even take you seriously enough to feel the need to reciprocate your insults.

yet you reciprocated the insults none the less.

A sign of weakness. Seems you believe Warrior got the better of you.

And for the first time today, I agree with you.

 

[highway234]

You alleged "tons of far right wing loons."

You failed to provide proof to back that rediculous claim you dreamed up in the windmills of your mind.

You're a miserable failure, and an asswipe.

Carry on.

you know what the funny thing is? i don't even take you seriously enough to feel the need to reciprocate your insults.

yet you reciprocated the insults none the less.

A sign of weakness. Seems you believe Warrior got the better of you.

And for the first time today, I agree with you.

not sure if you looked at page 7 of this thread, for a second you seemed capable of elevating yourself above the blind partisanship, but i guess not.

i'm not sure why people think being called an asswipe by a random guy on the internet is going to have an effect on anybody, but hey, have it your way. it's not like he's making an argument. he's just saying "asswipe" over and over again. if it's that easy to get the better of people, i've clearly been overthinking this whole debate thing.

 

[RDD_1210]

IRS: 1,470 millionaires paid no income tax in '09 - On Deadline - USATODAY.com


That merans they are not helping their country at a time of need.

What kind of American doesnt help their country in a time of great need?

Willow Tree should be irate

She hates the 47% who do not pay taxes

Funny because she's one of them.

 

[highway234]

Well you're new here so I'll be nice.

I'm a Ron Paul Republican, in fact it would seem most people on these boards that are conservative are, not all but more than are not. That means Wars/Bases all gone. Also Rand Paul put up a budget to balance the budget in 5 years that leaves us with a 19billion surplus and he never touched MC/MC/SS.

‪03/17/11: Sen. Rand Paul Introduces Five-Year Balanced Budget Plan‬‏ - YouTube

I support cuts to things like the DOE and so on yes, but SS/MC/MC need to be looked at and changed before they destroy the country, and they will.

i don't find much here to quarrel with. i think making deep cuts to the DOE would be a pretty bad idea because we really need to focus on energy policy and energy independence and i'm not sure how to do that without a strong DOE. i agree on the wars and the bases obviously. i'm still curious to know what obama's spending on that's remarkably different from what bush spent on. you may not be making that claim but i know a lot of people call obama a "big spender" as though he were some sort of wild-eyed keynesian (as opposed to a wild-eyed kenyan) but i just don't see it. so whenever i talk to someone on the right i try and get some specific big-spending social program that obama's proposed, and i don't get much in way of reply. mostly folks mutter something about "libtards" or some such and the conversation dies.

 

[Liability]

^ lied byway, as he nevertheless proved that he took warrior seriously enough to find it necessary to respond.

Some idiot libs are just dumber than other idiot libs.

just because i responded doesn't mean i take him seriously. i find him amusing. i predict i'll find you amusing also.

You tried to dismiss him by pretending that you can't take him seriously enough to reciprocate his insults, but you OBVIOUSLY took him seriously enough to try to use that as a dis (i.e., an insult), you patent fraud.

You are not only a liar, but you are really inept and transparent.

 

[highway234]

by the way, the left in congress also proposed a budget that liquidated the deficit far better than any of the mainstream plans proposed. naturally the "lamestream media" completely ignored it. of course, they didn't too much to assuage the redbaiters by calling it "the people's budget."

 

[highway234]

^ lied byway, as he nevertheless proved that he took warrior seriously enough to find it necessary to respond.

Some idiot libs are just dumber than other idiot libs.

just because i responded doesn't mean i take him seriously. i find him amusing. i predict i'll find you amusing also.

You tried to dismiss him by pretending that you can't take him seriously enough to reciprocate his insults, but you OBVIOUSLY took him seriously enough to try to use that as a dis (i.e., an insult), you patent fraud.

You are not only a liar, but you are really inept and transparent.

if it makes you feel better to say so. you're free to think whatever you like, of course. i get that it's fun to fling insults at strangers, but it's hard to take too seriously.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Putting Paris Hilton on par with Donald Trump shows your lack of knowledge.

Donald risks losing millions of dollars each day and if he were to lose millions, that in turn would result in many folks losing their jobs. Trump may recover and do fine, but what about those that depend on him for their livilihood? Oh that's right you don't give a shit about them, you just want Trump to sufffer.

You were talking about 'the rich'. Paris Hilton is rich. What is she risking every day?

And what is Trump risking? That he'll be on food stamps? That he can't afford college for his kids? That he'll wonder how to pay the mortgage out of his UE check?

Seriously people, your defense of the Rich is getting rather nauseating.

Hey stupid - there are countless real estate, insurance, financial, legal risks associated with owning properties like casinos and hotels. Do you need them dumbed-down to trailer park level?

No, but thanks for inviting me over.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

What great risk does Donald Trump face? Paris Hilton? Oh right, the risk that someone might snap a pic of her beaver when she's crawling out of a limousine.

Putting Paris Hilton on par with Donald Trump shows your lack of knowledge.

Donald risks losing millions of dollars each day and if he were to lose millions, that in turn would result in many folks losing their jobs. Trump may recover and do fine, but what about those that depend on him for their livilihood? Oh that's right you don't give a shit about them, you just want Trump to sufffer.

You were talking about 'the rich'. Paris Hilton is rich. What is she risking every day?

And what is Trump risking? That he'll be on food stamps? That he can't afford college for his kids? That he'll wonder how to pay the mortgage out of his UE check?

Seriously people, your defense of the Rich is getting rather nauseating.

No you're talking about rich people, I'm talking about rich people that create jobs for hundreds if not thousands of people. Piris doesn' temploy hundreds or thousands of people, Trump does.

 

[highway234]

You were talking about 'the rich'. Paris Hilton is rich. What is she risking every day?

And what is Trump risking? That he'll be on food stamps? That he can't afford college for his kids? That he'll wonder how to pay the mortgage out of his UE check?

Seriously people, your defense of the Rich is getting rather nauseating.

Hey stupid - there are countless real estate, insurance, financial, legal risks associated with owning properties like casinos and hotels. Do you need them dumbed-down to trailer park level?

No, but thanks for inviting me over.

oh, man, i felt that one way over here! mega-reps. lololol!!

 

[Avorysuds]

Well you're new here so I'll be nice.

I'm a Ron Paul Republican, in fact it would seem most people on these boards that are conservative are, not all but more than are not. That means Wars/Bases all gone. Also Rand Paul put up a budget to balance the budget in 5 years that leaves us with a 19billion surplus and he never touched MC/MC/SS.

‪03/17/11: Sen. Rand Paul Introduces Five-Year Balanced Budget Plan‬‏ - YouTube

I support cuts to things like the DOE and so on yes, but SS/MC/MC need to be looked at and changed before they destroy the country, and they will.

i don't find much here to quarrel with. i think making deep cuts to the DOE would be a pretty bad idea because we really need to focus on energy policy and energy independence and i'm not sure how to do that without a strong DOE. i agree on the wars and the bases obviously. i'm still curious to know what obama's spending on that's remarkably different from what bush spent on. you may not be making that claim but i know a lot of people call obama a "big spender" as though he were some sort of wild-eyed keynesian (as opposed to a wild-eyed kenyan) but i just don't see it. so whenever i talk to someone on the right i try and get some specific big-spending social program that obama's proposed, and i don't get much in way of reply. mostly folks mutter something about "libtards" or some such and the conversation dies.

My bad, DoEducation.

 

[highway234]

Well you're new here so I'll be nice.

I'm a Ron Paul Republican, in fact it would seem most people on these boards that are conservative are, not all but more than are not. That means Wars/Bases all gone. Also Rand Paul put up a budget to balance the budget in 5 years that leaves us with a 19billion surplus and he never touched MC/MC/SS.

‪03/17/11: Sen. Rand Paul Introduces Five-Year Balanced Budget Plan‬‏ - YouTube

I support cuts to things like the DOE and so on yes, but SS/MC/MC need to be looked at and changed before they destroy the country, and they will.

i don't find much here to quarrel with. i think making deep cuts to the DOE would be a pretty bad idea because we really need to focus on energy policy and energy independence and i'm not sure how to do that without a strong DOE. i agree on the wars and the bases obviously. i'm still curious to know what obama's spending on that's remarkably different from what bush spent on. you may not be making that claim but i know a lot of people call obama a "big spender" as though he were some sort of wild-eyed keynesian (as opposed to a wild-eyed kenyan) but i just don't see it. so whenever i talk to someone on the right i try and get some specific big-spending social program that obama's proposed, and i don't get much in way of reply. mostly folks mutter something about "libtards" or some such and the conversation dies.

My bad, DoEducation.

the alphabet soup strikes again!

 

[JimH52]

IRS: 1,470 millionaires paid no income tax in '09 - On Deadline - USATODAY.com


That merans they are not helping their country at a time of need.

What kind of American doesnt help their country in a time of great need?

That would be 1,470 votes for the GOP....

 

[Flopper]

IRS: 1,470 millionaires paid no income tax in '09 - On Deadline - USATODAY.com


That merans they are not helping their country at a time of need.

What kind of American doesnt help their country in a time of great need?

Americans who put their personal priorities above that of the nation. However, I don't fault them. I fault those that made the tax laws.

 

[highway234]

IRS: 1,470 millionaires paid no income tax in '09 - On Deadline - USATODAY.com


That merans they are not helping their country at a time of need.

What kind of American doesnt help their country in a time of great need?

Americans who put their personal priorities above that of the nation. However, I don't fault them. I fault those that made the tax laws.

you just said a mouthful, bogie. quite true.

 

[Truthmatters]

IRS: 1,470 millionaires paid no income tax in '09 - On Deadline - USATODAY.com


That merans they are not helping their country at a time of need.

What kind of American doesnt help their country in a time of great need?

Americans who put their personal priorities above that of the nation. However, I don't fault them. I fault those that made the tax laws.

That is an excelent point and its also why the republicans cheated to win the election. So they could be the ones making the laws wether we liked them or not.

 

[JimH52]

IRS: 1,470 millionaires paid no income tax in '09 - On Deadline - USATODAY.com


That merans they are not helping their country at a time of need.

What kind of American doesnt help their country in a time of great need?

Americans who put their personal priorities above that of the nation. However, I don't fault them. I fault those that made the tax laws.

and those that defend the unfair nature of these taxes. The one thing that has to come out of this "super committee" is concrete changes in the tax code to get rid of obscene advantages that many enjoy.