Zelensky - the 21st Century's Winston Churchill

[Dante]

Some people are asking "What does Zelensky tell his people and soldiers now?" after that media circus in the WH. Zelensky was an invited Guest. Zelensky is President of a nation. A nation that in 2014 (sorry Trump was wrong insisting "2015" and VP Vance was disingenuous "2014 and 2015 - And Zelensky did visit Pennsylvania last fall, but not as Vance described.

Zelensky: Yeah. OK. He occupied it, our parts. Big parts of Ukraine. Part of east and Crimea. So he occupied it on 2014. So during a lot of years, I’m not speaking about just Biden. But those times was Obama, then President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, now the President Trump. And God bless: Now President Trump will stop him. But during 2014, nobody stopped him. He just occupied and took. He killed people.

Trump: 2015.

Zelensky: 2014.

Vance: 2014 and 2015.

Zelensky: But during 2014 ’til 2022.(…) Nobody stopped him. You know that we had conversations with him, a lot of conversations. My bilateral conversation. And we signed with him. Me, like a new president. In 2019, I signed with him the deal I signed with him, Macron and Merkel. We signed cease-fire, cease-fire. All of them told me that he will never go. We signed him. Gas contract. Gas contract. But after that, he broken the cease-fire. He killed our people and he didn’t exchange prisoners. We signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn’t do it. What kind of diplomacy, JD, you are speaking about? What do you mean?

The People of Ukraine know when they were alone and attacked and facing a Super Power), was attacked. Stood alone.

So what does Zelensky tell his people and soldiers now?

"Not less we praise in darker days
The leader of our nation,
And Churchill's name shall win acclaim
From each new generation.
For you have power in danger's hour
Our freedom to defend, Sir!
Though long the fight we know that right
Will triumph in the end, Sir!"

Never Give In, Never, Never, Never, 1941

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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Yeah, sure, I can see Churchill doing this.

 

[Rambunctious]

Zelenskyy showed up angry and defiant and got booted for it.... from the start he crossed his arms and only uncrossed them to wag his finger at our president and Vice President... he is not a Churchill he is a irresponsible leader... 20% of his country is occupied by Russia and millions of his people are dead or injured... his cities are rubble and this all happened while he was getting money and weapons and advise from the USA...
He is an idiot and should step down today....

 

[Dante]

There were lots of respect.

Zelensky: Yeah. OK. He occupied it, our parts. Big parts of Ukraine. Part of east and Crimea. So he occupied it on 2014. So during a lot of years, I’m not speaking about just Biden. But those times was Obama, then President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, now the President Trump. And God bless: Now President Trump will stop him. But during 2014, nobody stopped him. He just occupied and took. He killed people.

But the event turned quickly. Vance played attack dog on a leash ala Putin tactic:

'Angela, forgive me': Putin denies intentionally scaring Merkel with dog

Former German chancellor Angela Merkel, who has a well-documented fear of animals, recalled the tense encounter in her memoir released Tuesday, accusing Putin of inviting the pet as a 'demonstration of power.'

I can see the next communication between Zelensky and the Man who insists he makes the most perfect phone calls:

"Volodymyr, forgive me. I didn't intentionally mean to threaten you with my pet attack dog J.D. Mandel, America's new dealer in Cultural Heroin."

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I don't know about Zelenskyy being Churchill, but Trump sure sounds a lot like Neville Chamberlain.

 

[Dante]

In 2019, while Trump was busy laying the groundwork for his war -- (the war on the American people - yes, attempting to prevent the certification of an election, is a war on the American people), Zelensky was busy visiting the front lines of a shooting war.

Zelenskiy Makes First Visit To Ukraine's Front Line​

When America stood for Freedom and Liberty

KYIV -- Donning a bulletproof helmet and vest over business attire, Volodymyr Zelenskiy made his first visit as president and supreme commander in chief to the front line of the war in eastern Ukraine with Russia-backed separatists that has killed 13,000 people and shows no sign of ending.

During the May 27 visit, which was not announced ahead of time, Zelenskiy met with Ukrainian troops in the war-torn towns of Stanytsia Luhanska and Shchastya in the Luhansk region, according to the presidential press service.

The press service said the newly elected head of state made the trip to get acquainted with the positions of the Ukrainian military.

Zelenskiy also spoke with soldiers about living conditions, food quality, equipment, housing, social benefits, and staffing of units, the press service added.

"The conditions for the military that defends Ukraine must be good," Zelenskiy was quoted as saying.

Official photographs showed Zelenskiy, who donned slacks and a blue-collared shirt with the sleeves rolled up, looking over a military map with soldiers, treading through a field with them, and peering through a lookout toward enemy positions from inside a bunker.

His predecessor, Petro Poroshenko, preferred to wear military camouflage fatigues on his frequent visits to the front line.

Zelenskiy, who was inaugurated on May 20 after a landslide victory over Poroshenko, has said that bringing the war to an end is among his top priorities and that he is prepared to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin in order to do so.

But Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has said that Putin, who did not congratulate Zelenskiy on his election victory, will do so after the Ukrainian leader resolves "the internal conflict in southeastern Ukraine" and his "first successes in normalizing Russian-Ukrainian relations."

The Kremlin has repeatedly denied fueling the war, which entered its sixth year last month, despite overwhelming evidence showing that it has covertly supported separatist forces in eastern Ukraine with funds, military equipment, and fighters.

 

[Dante]

I don't know about Zelenskyy being Churchill, but Trump sure sounds a lot like Neville Chamberlain.

funny

But to be serious, Churchill kept the spirits of his people up,when they felt alone and abandoned. Few can deny Zelensky has kept his people together through some seriously tough times. Do you believe the bombings in Ukraine, do not in some ways equal the bombings in GB during WWII? Do you believe Zelensky is somehow not like Churchill because...

 

[Mac-7]

Zelenskyy showed up angry and defiant and got booted for it....

I dont agree

Zelenski was calm and respectful

 

[iamwhatiseem]

What Democrats really want, clearly.......... and why all of the Zelensky worshipping

 

[Rambunctious]

Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, 2022, primarily due to a combination of geopolitical, historical, and security-related reasons. Here are the main factors that led to the invasion:

1.​

• Ukraine had been moving closer to Western institutions like the European Union (EU) and NATO, which Russia saw as a threat to its influence in the region.
• In 2014, Ukraine’s pro-Russian president, Viktor Yanukovych, was ousted after mass protests (Euromaidan), leading to a pro-Western government.

2.​

• After the 2014 revolution, Russia annexed Crimea, claiming it was protecting ethnic Russians there.
• Russia also backed separatist movements in Donetsk and Luhansk in eastern Ukraine, leading to an ongoing conflict.

3.​

• Russian President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly said that Ukraine is part of Russia’s historical and cultural sphere.
• In a 2021 essay, he argued that Ukraine and Russia are "one people", denying Ukraine’s legitimacy as an independent nation.

4.​

• Russia opposed NATO’s expansion toward its borders and claimed Ukraine’s potential NATO membership was a security threat.
• However, NATO had not officially invited Ukraine to join.

5.​

• Russia likely expected a quick victory, assuming Ukraine’s government would collapse and be replaced by a pro-Russian leadership.
• Instead, Ukraine resisted strongly, with Western nations supplying weapons, sanctions against Russia, and economic support for Ukraine.

Outcome So Far​

The war has lasted four years with heavy losses on both sides. Ukraine has retaken some territory, while Russia continues its military operations. The war has caused a global crisis, including economic disruptions and millions of displaced Ukrainians.

We should have never gotten involved and we should have never embraced Ukraine.... or made waves about them joining NATO... we have been screwing up since Clinton talked them into giving up their nukes....

 

[Dante]

Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, 2022, primarily due to a combination of geopolitical, historical, and security-related reasons. Here are the main factors that led to the invasion:

1.​

• Ukraine had been moving closer to Western institutions like the European Union (EU) and NATO, which Russia saw as a threat to its influence in the region.
• In 2014, Ukraine’s pro-Russian president, Viktor Yanukovych, was ousted after mass protests (Euromaidan), leading to a pro-Western government.

2.​

• After the 2014 revolution, Russia annexed Crimea, claiming it was protecting ethnic Russians there.
• Russia also backed separatist movements in Donetsk and Luhansk in eastern Ukraine, leading to an ongoing conflict.

3.​

• Russian President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly said that Ukraine is part of Russia’s historical and cultural sphere.
• In a 2021 essay, he argued that Ukraine and Russia are "one people", denying Ukraine’s legitimacy as an independent nation.

4.​

• Russia opposed NATO’s expansion toward its borders and claimed Ukraine’s potential NATO membership was a security threat.
• However, NATO had not officially invited Ukraine to join.

5.​

• Russia likely expected a quick victory, assuming Ukraine’s government would collapse and be replaced by a pro-Russian leadership.
• Instead, Ukraine resisted strongly, with Western nations supplying weapons, sanctions against Russia, and economic support for Ukraine.

Outcome So Far​

The war has lasted four years with heavy losses on both sides. Ukraine has retaken some territory, while Russia continues its military operations. The war has caused a global crisis, including economic disruptions and millions of displaced Ukrainians.

We should have never gotten involved and we should have never embraced Ukraine.... or made waves about them joining NATO... we have been screwing up since Clinton talked them into giving up their nukes....

good gawd...

"In April 2014, Russian-backed militants seized towns and cities in Ukraine's eastern Donbas region and proclaimed the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and the ..."

Russo-Ukrainian War​

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Zelenskyy showed up angry and defiant and got booted for it.... from the start he crossed his arms and only uncrossed them to wag his finger at our president and Vice President... he is not a Churchill he is a irresponsible leader... 20% of his country is occupied by Russia and millions of his people are dead or injured... his cities are rubble and this all happened while he was getting money and weapons and advise from the USA...
He is an idiot and should step down today....

Plus, he threatened Trump!

 

[Dante]

Plus, he threatened Trump!

HE did not threaten Trump, but we can be sure Trump felt hurt. He's such a weak snowflake.

 

[Rambunctious]

good gawd...

"In April 2014, Russian-backed militants seized towns and cities in Ukraine's eastern Donbas region and proclaimed the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and the ..."

Russo-Ukrainian War​

It wasn't really an invasion the region is occupied by Russian speaking people many crossed the border each day to work and shop.... but this would not have happened if Clinton let them keep their nukes....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

HE did not threaten Trump, but we can be sure Trump felt hurt. He's such a weak snowflake.

"Everyone has problems," said Zelensky. "You have nice ocean, you don't feel now but you will feel it in future."

Zelen$ky might want to spend less time playing piano with his dick

 

[Rambunctious]

It was our leaders from Clinton to Bush and Obama and Biden who caused this war and the tension that grew between Russia and Ukraine... we wanted to surround Russia with democracies... now when has that ever worked for us?????

 

[hondo 50]

Love the backhanded compliment. lol

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Zelenskyy showed up angry and defiant and got booted for it.... from the start he crossed his arms and only uncrossed them to wag his finger at our president and Vice President... he is not a Churchill he is a irresponsible leader... 20% of his country is occupied by Russia and millions of his people are dead or injured... his cities are rubble and this all happened while he was getting money and weapons and advise from the USA...
He is an idiot and should step down today....

He did the same thing to Biden

Biden lost his temper on a call with Zelenskyy when Ukraine's leader asked for more aid

Biden had barely finished telling Zelenskyy he’d just greenlighted another $1 billion in military assistance when the Ukrainian president started listing all the additional help he needed.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Calypso Jones]

Some people are asking "What does Zelensky tell his people and soldiers now?" after that media circus in the WH. Zelensky was an invited Guest. Zelensky is President of a nation. A nation that in 2014 (sorry Trump was wrong insisting "2015" and VP Vance was disingenuous "2014 and 2015 - And Zelensky did visit Pennsylvania last fall, but not as Vance described.

Zelensky: Yeah. OK. He occupied it, our parts. Big parts of Ukraine. Part of east and Crimea. So he occupied it on 2014. So during a lot of years, I’m not speaking about just Biden. But those times was Obama, then President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, now the President Trump. And God bless: Now President Trump will stop him. But during 2014, nobody stopped him. He just occupied and took. He killed people.

Trump: 2015.

Zelensky: 2014.

Vance: 2014 and 2015.

Zelensky: But during 2014 ’til 2022.(…) Nobody stopped him. You know that we had conversations with him, a lot of conversations. My bilateral conversation. And we signed with him. Me, like a new president. In 2019, I signed with him the deal I signed with him, Macron and Merkel. We signed cease-fire, cease-fire. All of them told me that he will never go. We signed him. Gas contract. Gas contract. But after that, he broken the cease-fire. He killed our people and he didn’t exchange prisoners. We signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn’t do it. What kind of diplomacy, JD, you are speaking about? What do you mean?

The People of Ukraine know when they were alone and attacked and facing a Super Power), was attacked. Stood alone.

So what does Zelensky tell his people and soldiers now?


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"Not less we praise in darker days
The leader of our nation,
And Churchill's name shall win acclaim
From each new generation.
For you have power in danger's hour
Our freedom to defend, Sir!
Though long the fight we know that right
Will triumph in the end, Sir!"

Never Give In, Never, Never, Never, 1941

I need to never let myself believe that you can't get more ridiculous.

 

[Calypso Jones]

Seem to remember Obams was the guy that had the Churchill bust taken out of the Oval office and sent back to UK for the duration. Ironic you bring up the comparison knwing that history...or did you never know that?