Zelensky challenges Trump to release plan to end Ukraine war with Russia

[Faun]

Believe whatever you want man. I’m not saying there was 100% for sure shady shit going on. It’s just hard for me to believe that these companies aren’t getting a little more than a name on a letterhead. In Hunter’s case specifically why does he need to live there, attend meetings, etc if he’s just a “name”? And I’m not surprised there’s not direct evidence. These aren’t stupid people.

I'm pretty sure Hunter didn't live there. And again, if hiring Hunter provided them access to his dad, why did they keep him on the payroll until Hunter resigned years after his father was out of office?

And by the way, these are VERY stupid people. Joe has never had a functioning brain. And his son was so stupid, he let someone have his laptop from hell.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I think that Zelensky is struggling to accept that all of the fruits of the labor of American taxpayers that is being robbed from them at the barrel of their own government's gun, while they strugggle to decide whether to put fuel in their cars to get to work or to put food on the table for their families, is likely going to be re-routed to Israel, now that the baton is being handed off to Trump and Vance.

 

[Couchpotato]

I'm pretty sure Hunter didn't live there. And again, if hiring Hunter provided them access to his dad, why did they keep him on the payroll until Hunter resigned years after his father was out of office?

Thought I read somewhere that he did. Maybe not. Again his father would continue to hold sway. If he was just a name why once his. Dad was out office did they keep him on?

And by the way, these are VERY stupid people. Joe has never had a functioning brain. And his son was so stupid, he let someone have his laptop from hell.

Joe has never been nearly as smart as he’s thought he was but yoh don’t survive as long as he has politically without knowing how to avoid landmines.

 

[Faun]

Thought I read somewhere that he did. Maybe not. Again his father would continue to hold sway. If he was just a name why once his. Dad was out office did they keep him on?

Joe has never been nearly as smart as he’s thought he was but yoh don’t survive as long as he has politically without knowing how to avoid landmines.

For the same reason they hired him to begin with -- name recognition. There was no influence when Joe was out of office.

 

[Couchpotato]

For the same reason they hired him to begin with -- name recognition. There was no influence when Joe was out of office.

Yeah former VPs and long time Senators hold no sway. The problem with your argument is that the same reasons you give for them employing him as a name appliy equally to influence/access peddling. You somehow KNOW it was one and not the other. .

 

[Faun]

Yeah former VPs and long time Senators hold no sway. The problem with your argument is that the same reasons you give for them employing him as a name appliy equally to influence/access peddling. You somehow KNOW it was one and not the other. .

I know there was no influence peddling because there's no evidence of influence peddling. We have Hunter's laptop and there's nothing on there indicating influence peddling. We have Republicans hunting for influence peddling and finding none.

 

[Couchpotato]

I know there was no influence peddling because there's no evidence of influence peddling. We have Hunter's laptop and there's nothing on there indicating influence peddling. We have Republicans hunting for influence peddling and finding none.

Ok. Glad you “know”. Have a great day

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No, his plan is to cut off all aid to Ukraine and just let Putin take the entire country.

Ding ding ding

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I think that Zelensky is struggling to accept that all of the fruits of the labor of American taxpayers that is being robbed from them at the barrel of their own government's gun, while they strugggle to decide whether to put fuel in their cars to get to work or to put food on the table for their families, is likely going to be re-routed to Israel, now that the baton is being handed off to Trump and Vance.

While the orange slob is historically fond of illegally playing with congressionally approved aid, they cant really do it. Up to Congress.

 

[Couchpotato]

No, his plan is to cut off all aid to Ukraine and just let Putin take the entire country. That's the reason he refuses to say what his plan is.

Or force Ukraine to the negotiating table. There’s also that.

 

[sparky]

Or force Ukraine to the negotiating table. There’s also that.

we did that for near a decade.....

Noland threw the Uke's under the Minsk bus

~S~

 

[Natural Citizen]

While the orange slob is historically fond of illegally playing with congressionally approved aid, they cant really do it. Up to Congress.

Congress is effectively led around by the nose by the beneficiary. It's just a historical fact. They'll do what they're told to do regarding these specific matters.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Congress is effectively led around by the nose by the beneficiary. It's just a historical fact. They'll do what they're told to do regarding these specific matters.

And yet it took months to get the last package past the Republicans.

So recent history seems shaky.

 

[ThisIsMe]

LOL

Shokin spent 2014 helping Burisma's owner evade prosecution by a British court and then spent 2015 not actively pursuing a Ukrainian investigation.

So no, he wasn't going after Zlochevsky, Burisma or Hunter.

Sure and Biden claims he refused aid to Ukraine to fire shokin…tell me, with all the countries we give aid to, has Biden gone on tv and bragged about refusing aid to any of them, until they root out corruption? Are you saying Ukraine is the only country we give aid to that has corruption?

And aren’t there stories that say shokin WAS investigating the corruption ?

Obama administration signed off on $1B for Ukraine Biden threatened to hold back: report

“We have been impressed with the ambitious reform and anti-corruption agenda of your government,” Nuland writes in the June 2015 letter.

nypost.com

Seems the rest of the Obama administration was happy with shokin…Biden, however, wasn’t…

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sure and Biden claims he refused aid to Ukraine to fire shokin…tell me, with all the countries we give aid to, has Biden gone on tv and bragged about refusing aid to any of them, until they root out corruption? Are you saying Ukraine is the only country we give aid to that has corruption?

All irrelevant distractions from the topic.

Go vote for the guy was trying to withhold aid to Ukraine for personal gain.

 

[ThisIsMe]

IT'S NOT COINCIDENTAL FOR VP TO TAKE INTEREST IN A COUNTRY RUSSIA INVADED!

It's a matter of very direct CAUSE AND EFFECT.

It's also NOT COINCIDENTAL for a company on DoS shitlist to try to put American VP's son on the board to try to improve it's image.

How do you not get such simple shit?

the U.S. didn’t get involved with Ukraine at the time Biden started with them. It was Obama stance to stay out of it.

It's also NOT COINCIDENTAL for a company on DoS shitlist to try to put American VP's son on the board to try to improve it's image.

Leveraging that VP connection for profit….got it.

Doesn’t hurt that Ukraine is rife with economic crimes. A little money laundering might go unnoticed there, eh?

 

[ThisIsMe]

All irrelevant distractions from the topic.

Go vote for the guy was trying to withhold aid to Ukraine for personal gain.

A leftist allegation that untrue..but keep saying it..lol

 

[AntonToo]

the U.S. didn’t get involved with Ukraine at the time Biden started with them. It was Obama stance to stay out of it

US has been involved in Ukraine for as long as it's been country. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Obama put a boot up Russia ass for invading Crimea, leading on international santions that caused a two year Russian recession 2014-2016

 

[Couchpotato]

US has been involved in Ukraine for as long as it's been country. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Obama put a boot up Russia ass for invading Crimea, leading on international santions that caused a two year Russian recession 2014-2016

Yeah they really learned their lesson.

 

[AntonToo]

Yeah they really learned their lesson.

Alternative....being what?

Trump alternative response was...wait for it..DO NOTHING, he ran in 2016 against those very sanctions on Russia.