You’re Watching the Old Order Collapse…and the People Who Built It Would Rather Burn America Down Than Lose Power

Well, unlike many, I can't see the future.

On one hand, I can see what he & they are trying to do, and the old saying "you have to break eggs to make an omelette" definitely applies. Ridding the world of tyranny and oppression? Great. Sign me up. Making sure that trade deals are optimized going forward? Absolutely, yes. Controlling our borders and protecting our populace? You bet. Good.

On the other hand, what I don't see is any kind of sober examination of the COSTS of THE WAY things are being done, I don't see any understanding of or concern for the damage that is being caused, and I see supporters who are clearly operating on realities and information that are simply not shared by the rest of the country, or the planet, for that matter.

So yeah, a lot of eggs are being broken to make this omelette, so we'll see.
 
I think what makes Trump really special is he's one of the very few who is out for the best interests of the country, and he is motivated by that altruistic goal. He doesn't want for money or power. He's already won on those counts. He doesn't need either one. You will NEVER find a Democrat like that. Every longtime Democrat you can think of enriched himself or herself through their political career.

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I think what makes Trump really special is he's one of the very few who is out for the best interests of the country, and he is motivated by that altruistic goal. He doesn't want for money or power. He's already won on those counts. He doesn't need either one. You will NEVER find a Democrat like that. Every longtime Democrat you can think of enriched himself or herself through their political career.
Wrong! Harry Truman.
 
You gotta be shittn' me. He is out for trump, not American. He just sells the MAGA routine blind followers. He should not have gone in, to help Israel with it's attack, though we should never have gotten in the way of Israel attacking Iran or it's proxies. But, the simple fact is nothing changed since he "obliterated" (his words) their nuclear program, and even his Secretary of State said Iran was not enriching. There was nothing that made him rush into this. He just chose to. The build up, for him was all on the military side, with no care for American's abroad or arrangements to get them out, as if the military build up was some kind of secret. Regional allies were not told. Heck our own front line and regional units, not directly involve from the jump weren't told. This probably led to some shooting down a plane or two of ours, by friendly fire.
Great idea. Just put the word out to travelers ahead of time. No chance Iran would have heard about it and ruined the surprise. Boy you leftwingers are great military tacticians !
 
Well, unlike many, I can't see the future.

On one hand, I can see what he & they are trying to do, and the old saying "you have to break eggs to make an omelette" definitely applies. Ridding the world of tyranny and oppression? Great. Sign me up. Making sure that trade deals are optimized going forward? Absolutely, yes. Controlling our borders and protecting our populace? You bet. Good.

On the other hand, what I don't see is any kind of sober examination of the COSTS of THE WAY things are being done, I don't see any understanding of or concern for the damage that is being caused, and I see supporters who are clearly operating on realities and information that are simply not shared by the rest of the country, or the planet, for that matter.

So yeah, a lot of eggs are being broken to make this omelette, so we'll see.
I just don’t understand this administration. Why didn’t Trump, Hegseth, and Bessent personally contact each of USMB’s leftwingers and share the exact military plan and provide a sheet of all related expenses? The fact that they didn’t, shows there was absolutely no plan at all.
 
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Alaska is surprising.....unsure why its emptying out.



 

You’re Watching the Old Order Collapse…

and the People Who Built It Would Rather Burn America Down Than Lose Power

9 Mar 2026 ~~ By John Howard Kunstler

Don’t lose the plot. Embrace the suck. This is the world’s hard time, for now. The birth of anything can be a bloody horror. It can even look like death. Don’t be too afraid to see what comes on the other side of this awful spectacle.
So many Americans are rooting and wishing for the Iran war to turn out badly for Western Civ. And why? Because Trump. And why? Because at the same time he is ending Iran’s long-running nuclear blackmail game, he is terminating the rackets of the Democratic Party. The incipient changes in operational order create new categories of winners and losers.
Now you know why Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists run on the same track as America’s Woke-Jacobin-Marxists, including the pitifully deluded wine ladies of posh West LA, Grosse Point, Beacon Hill, Fairfax County, et cetera, whose brains have been hijacked by the cable news demon factory (and their sponsors). Chaos does everything possible to avoid meeting order.
And this is why passing the SAVE Act is as consequential as ridding the Middle East of its chief chaos agent. Do you realize how perfectly insane our country’s election procedure has become? The fraud is titanic and right in your face, and the remedy is so plain and simple. What possible excuse is there to thwart it? Non-citizens have no right to vote. Mail-in ballots are patently subject to chicanery. Vote tabulation machines are demonstrably hackable. 80-percent of Americans know this is the truth. How is there controversy over this?
How? Because among all the broken institutions in our country, Congress is the worst. The Congress of our time is demonstrating that we might not be worthy of governing ourselves. We are at a cycle-low for public rectitude. Anything goes and nothing matters as long as the campaign contributions keep rolling in. You see how this has been going.
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So, Mr. Trump, for all his flaws, attempts to bring order out of chaos at home and in global relations, and the agents of chaos mightily resent the shut-down of their precious chaos. With Iran, it has come to fighting fire with fire. It’s unlikely that most of the people in that country seek to become martyrs. The cult of martyrdom is strictly the business of the maniacs who seized power there in 1979, a reign of terror, extended by proxy around the whole Middle East and beyond.
Entwined with Iran’s oil business, and the energy security of many nations, the mullahs inflect the trade of this primary resource with their chaos. The world cannot cope with chaos in the oil trade. The collapsing regime of the mullahs wants to go out turning the entire world into a martyr. Just like the Democratic Party wants to martyr the founding principles of the USA to preserve its matrix of moneygrubbing and power-seeking. These are two forces that require the most severe discipline and Mr. Trump is acting to impose exactly that. It’s painful to witness, but it must happen if we want to continue the human project as a reality-based enterprise.
So, heed what is at stake in the events unspooling. This is a dark moment in a journey back to daylight. Have faith. As the old American hymn goes: Farther along we’ll know more about it; farther along we’ll understand why.

Commentary:
John Kunstler's thesis reflects a common sentiment found in modern political commentary regarding the "old order" or "establishment." The idea suggests that entrenched leaders would rather see institutions fail than relinquish control.
Even posts on this board many of the discussions often center on whether the "death of American capitalism" or the dismantling of agencies like USAID represents a shift toward "oligarchic nihilism," where the ruling class prioritizes its own power over the survival of the system.
Certainly we've been warned by our forefathers and those that came after by people like Thomas Jefferson and
Abraham Lincoln who warned of the internal collapse of democracy if the 'Rights Of The People' were secondary to the interests of those in power.
Today's political landscape in the U.S. is marked by significant turmoil. Many believe that those in power are prioritizing their interests over the well-being of the nation. This has led to widespread discontent among the populace.
We saw that beginning in 2020 with the "Summer of Love" and the Stolen election followed by a pseudo presidency supposed led by an Alzheimer's riddled septuagenarian that began work at 12:00 PM and closed shop at 3:00 PM.
Indeed, many Americans wondered then who was really running the country.
Yet, today the same political leaders tell us the president elected to lead this country is tearing America apart.

A day after hinting at a draft, Trump REVERSES, PANICS, saying his Iran War is now OVER. "I think the war is very complete, pretty much."
Here's "pretty much" what's happening.
Trump is seeing his approval numbers TANK. He's seeing gas prices skyrocket. He's seeing his Middle Eastern investors threaten to shut down ALL investment in America.
President TACO is "pretty much" DESPERATE to get out of the mess of his own making. But so much of the damage can't be undone.
He's pretty much screwed.
 
Trump, June 2025: Iran's key nuclear sites were completely and fully obliterated.
Great.

Now cite all of the feedback from the lefttardz and the media telling Trump he was full of shit and the Nuke facilities were not obliterated.

Are they obliterated now?

Or do we need to hit them again?
 
The chaos is from you Democrats. Thanks for shutting down the DHS, the next string of mass casualty events from terrorist attacks is on you guys and girls.

Just remember that, girlie.
Nope... If there is going to be a 'mass casualty events from terrorist attacks' that looks like Iran or ME. That one is on Trump & Co.
MAGA don't seem understand consequences, they make decisions , it turns to shit and then they take no responsibility...

Just take Tariffs... They are a shit show... Rising prices, rising unemployment, stock market slow growth, poor getting fucked...
Slow GDP growth while higher deficits... Gas prices very high, US Citizens being harassed for ID on the streets..
Rich doing well for now...

This is a shit show of admin and Trump thinks he is winning... He is ******* clueless and he surrounded himself with yes mean who feed his ego...
 
Meanwhile back in reality,...

The blob said on social media he won’t sign any more bills until Congress passes election reform; something that the federal government doesn’t have a constituional role in officiating.

The sole creator of chaos is the blob.

Wrong, as usual. Article I, section 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
 
Now cite all of the feedback from the lefttardz and the media telling Trump he was full of shit and the Nuke facilities were not obliterated.

By that I take it you're equating the significance of Trump's words with those of the "leftardz" and the media. Good call.
 
By that I take it you're equating the significance of Trump's words with those of the "leftardz" and the media. Good call.
You tardz convinced Trump that the sites were not in fact obliterated.

So he hit them again.

Do you want to go for three for three?
 
A day after hinting at a draft, Trump REVERSES, PANICS, saying his Iran War is now OVER. "I think the war is very complete, pretty much."
Here's "pretty much" what's happening.
Trump is seeing his approval numbers TANK. He's seeing gas prices skyrocket. He's seeing his Middle Eastern investors threaten to shut down ALL investment in America.
President TACO is "pretty much" DESPERATE to get out of the mess of his own making. But so much of the damage can't be undone.
He's pretty much screwed.
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Oddly the late Charlie Rangel did the same thing just after 9/11.
It flew like a lead balloon then and flies the same now.
It's not Trump but the people that are against a conscripted military.
Unlike Europe, Russia and China our military will remain a volunteer Army.
Of course Democrat Marxist Leftist will point out that it's necessary to have a equitable burden.
Seems that Democrats will look for and reason to insert a poison pill into America.
 
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Great.
Now cite all of the feedback from the lefttardz and the media telling Trump he was full of shit and the Nuke facilities were not obliterated.
Are they obliterated now?
Or do we need to hit them again?
Jarad and Steve Witkoff met with the Iran negotiator.
Witkoff said we would give them free nuclear fuel if they gave us their 490# of 60% enriched uranium.
Iran said no deal. So we know they are not going to stop nuclear bomb development.
 
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Oddly the late Charlie Rangel did the same thing just after 9/11.
It flew like a lead balloon then and flies the same now.
It's not Trump but the people that are against a conscripted military.
Unlike Europe, Russia and China our military will remain a volunteer Army.
Of course Democrat Marxist Leftist will point out that it's necessary to have a equitable burden.
Seems that Democrats will look for and reason to insert a poison pill into America.
Rangel was a decorated veteran. I think he didn't like the democrats to be too dovish.
Under democrats and a "woke" military we couldn't fill the ranks.
Under Trump and Hegseth our military branches have waiting lists to try out for the military.
 
Rangel was a decorated veteran. I think he didn't like the democrats to be too dovish.
Under democrats and a "woke" military we couldn't fill the ranks.
Under Trump and Hegseth our military branches have waiting lists to try out for the military.
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Indeed, You're correct. Like many drafted Americans the former Congressman fought in the Korean War.
Oh wait... A Democrat majority Congress did not declare war then, nor did Congress declare war for Vietnam.
 
I wonder how much of that percentage in Virginia were fed .gov workers?

300K have been let go and the bulk are in the DC/VA/MD area.

I hope more leave.
I'm not sure....but the people leaving Maryland is more likely Federal Workers as many live there and commute to DC.
 
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