You can build wealth without owning a home.

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Home ownership is expensive, much more than renting. Of course, there are many benefits of home ownership but there are better ways to build wealth. Just save and invest the difference between owning and renting and watch your fortune grow. It will grow faster if you're single as you can share space with others and save even more.
 
Sure, but a house has dual purposes. It is also a source of pride of ownership.

That said if I sell my home I will go back to renting and placing my money in my retirement fund. I lost too many years unfortunately.
 
I am not sure I would say "much more so than renting" but a lot depends on the house you own.

We went from renting to having a house built and moved into it. As a brand new house there are few extra cost right now. Our mortgage, including the escrow for taxes and insurance is less than what we were paying in rent by about 300 bucks a month. We have had only one expense due to the house in the 2 years since we lived here, and that was my fault as I neglected to take my timer off the outside faucet and the pipe froze last winter.

I have a co-worker that owns a very old house and she is constantly putting money in to it. She had to redo her shower and fix some pipes. Doing so helped the water pressure, but the higher water pressure made her outside faucet start to leak so now she has to fix it.

We will live in our house about 7 years before we sell it. By that time the extra money put into it will be minimal and we will get back all of our investment plus the added value of the house.

We do not ever plan to own again once we retire and sell this house.

There is no right or wrong answer, both have their good and bad points.
 
The downside to renting is you can't use the land ... you have to have your landlord's permission to do anything ... and anything of value you add to your home has to remain when you move ... someone else owns it ...

The choice depends on three things ... location, location and location ... my first home payments were half rental value, including taxes and insurance ... doubled in value in 5 years, albeit including sweat equity ... meaning hard work ...

You build wealth by working hard ...
 
The old rule of thumb was you bought a house flipped it in five years, and moved into a better house. Rince and repeat till you got what you want.

Of course, all that has been turned due to poor fed policy so people are sitting on their homes longer due to interest rates.
 
Home ownership is expensive, much more than renting. Of course, there are many benefits of home ownership but there are better ways to build wealth. Just save and invest the difference between owning and renting and watch your fortune grow. It will grow faster if you're single as you can share space with others and save even more.
Rent and invest the difference, like buy term and invest the difference. Nobody does that shit.

I worked the retirement market for more than two decades. Income planning was what I was known for. Some financial advisors, who had helped their client build their wealth, would refer them to me when they retired and started to take income. I had clients in every income and wealth quintile. I learned one thing, or at least it became pretty obvious pretty early.

Farmer John, Carl that worked in a furniture factory, Steven the surgeon, I learned income really didn't determine what someone saved for retirement. Sure, it had an impact. And yes, personal financial responsibility played a part. But the biggest factor that affected the "nest egg" of someone going into retirement. How soon their house was paid off, and at what age.

The value of a home ownership is not in the "home", it is in the ownership part, like a damn car. Someone comes in the office, ready to retire, and they still have a mortgage, get out of here. You are beyond hope. Paid your house off when you were 50, you probably got a nice little stash. My oldest is 39, she owns her home, there is no mortgage. Her sister is a couple years behind her, she will still have a mortgage at 40, but not 45. Oldest son, 29, he will have a mortgage at 30, but not 35. He routinely gets cash offers that are double what he paid for the house. Closed on the house the week before he graduated from college.

And I got a real world test of your very theory going on, kind of. My middle son, he is extremely agoraphobic. After he graduated from college, he went no where. Lost his job at Amazon, he stayed in his apartment for two months, ordered in groceries. His Mom and I went to get him and pick up his car. He lived with me for more than a year. Never left the house. But got a job, working remote.

He has the same job now, knocking down six figures. We drugged him up, moved him to his swanky apartment, and he has been there for more than two years. Yes, he goes places, that he can walk to. But he has the whole grocery delivery thing down to an art form. Splurges with Door Dash once in a while. But last week, we were so happy. He drove his car to the grocery store, and not even the closest one. Maybe two miles. He didn't go in, just drove there, processed it, and drove back. home.

And he is a minimalist. Less stuff, less stuff to worry about is his take. His strategy, rent and bank the difference, and then some. Come on, he goes nowhere, is a minimalist, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, and his girlfriend lives half a world away in Bangladesh, visits a couple times a year for a month or so. He is throwing back all kinds of Benjamins.

But the purpose is, to buy a house, with cash. It literally is a race. These kids are one competitive lot, sometimes it is hard to watch. On one hand, they are my army. They team up, focus, it is game over, you won't be able to see through the dust they will stir up. And they are thick as thieves, a constantly going group chat, scary actually. But on the other hand, OMG, get them all on the basketball court, well somebody is going to be getting a broken bone cast in the next couple of days.

So the oldest set the bar, house paid for at 36. The second has already lost, but she is pushing hard to finish a close second. The third was on pace, but life happens sometimes. Number four, that is the oldest son, he is probably going to come in under the bar.

And really, if he does, then that answers the question. He is five years in to a 15 year mortgage thats outstanding balance is not one fourth the value of his home. At less than three percent. To pay it off early, and comically the two of us actually talked about this this weekend when I went to visit. Well it is just a pride thing, a competitive thing. So yeah, he will pay it off early.

Thanks for reading. The real point, the value of home ownership is in ownership, not home
 
Of course, there are many benefits of home ownership

You can't do this in an apartment!


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Since you have to pay for a place to live anyway…
Owning your home is a great way to accumulate wealth

It can be, but it also requires a lot of your wealth to be tied down.

There is no one "best way", everyone is different.

If you own a home you are tied to it and if you need to move for a job it becomes much harder.

I remember reading one of the main reasons UE stayed high so long after the 2008 recession is that people could not move to where the jobs were as they were underwater on their homes due to the housing crash.
 
Since you have to pay for a place to live anyway…
Owning your home is a great way to accumulate wealth
It can be if you don't borrow the equity to pay for the kid's college.
 
I am not sure I would say "much more so than renting" but a lot depends on the house you own.

We went from renting to having a house built and moved into it. As a brand new house there are few extra cost right now. Our mortgage, including the escrow for taxes and insurance is less than what we were paying in rent by about 300 bucks a month. We have had only one expense due to the house in the 2 years since we lived here, and that was my fault as I neglected to take my timer off the outside faucet and the pipe froze last winter.

I have a co-worker that owns a very old house and she is constantly putting money in to it. She had to redo her shower and fix some pipes. Doing so helped the water pressure, but the higher water pressure made her outside faucet start to leak so now she has to fix it.

We will live in our house about 7 years before we sell it. By that time the extra money put into it will be minimal and we will get back all of our investment plus the added value of the house.

We do not ever plan to own again once we retire and sell this house.

There is no right or wrong answer, both have their good and bad points.
There's also the costs of furnishing a house, property taxes and possibly HOA fees. For me, home ownership was always the way to go. The wealth building aspect I don't believe will be the same as it was over the last 40 years but it is still worth it, imo.
 
Don't get married, don't have kids. Save your $. It can be done and more and more young people are figuring it out thankfully.
 
I built my farm out of pocket, because no bank would loan me a dime

Now they approach me with all kinds of 'deals' since i've been assessed at 1/2Mil

~S~
 
There's also the costs of furnishing a house, property taxes and possibly HOA fees.

Even when we rented we had our own furniture, I have never rented a furnished place, but we probably will when we move to Panama.

For me, home ownership was always the way to go.

Being a Marine stationed at 7 different duty stations in 20 years it never made sense to buy for us. The house we are in now is only the 2nd we have ever owned.

Home ownership is great for some, but it is not for everyone

The wealth building aspect I don't believe will be the same as it was over the last 40 years but it is still worth it, imo.

I agree the wealth building part will not be the same.
 
Don't get married, don't have kids. Save your $. It can be done and more and more young people are figuring it out thankfully.
Or, get married, delay having kids, live cheap, both work and save for big down payment on a modest home to start with. Make a plan and stick to it.
 

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